Down-to-earth: A perspective

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lookyoung said:
Listen not too get off the topic. But to all the sosuave members check this girls user cp out. She is a good looking girl. She is pretty cute, and by the way she posts she is smart also. She also posted how her boyfriend is 4 inches shorter than her, is broke, and is asian.


Now an honest question for the girl in the boy forum??? What the hell are you doing with a short, broke, asian guy? Don't mean to flame just kind of curious?????????
First off, a big thank you to lookyoung for the flattering smorgasbord of compliments. This quote is from the “Rich BUT still fail with women(myth?)” thread, but I decided to post my response as a new thread primarily for selfish reasons, namely that more people might read this.

I’ll start with a quick background about myself and my way of thinking. I think it’s critical to understand one another’s backstory and general philosophy, because often that is a root of misunderstanding and argument. However, if you’re the overly impatient type or just don’t care, skip down to the part that starts with **.

I’m a college girl, age 19. I have many academic interests, namely foreign languages (French and Japanese), Occupational Therapy, and gender studies. The latter would be my “reason” for poking around sosuave: I find it interesting to see how a given genre of men view women and their approaches on the matter. I have a wonderful boyfriend and I am strictly long-term—no one night stands or f*ck buddies for me, thank you. I don’t have anything against those things, it just isn’t a lifestyle that suits me. When reading the comments I post around sosuave, it’s important to understand the type of relationships I invest myself in, because that very much impacts my responses.

Yes, I am young, but I am also smart, experienced to my own degree, and confident in my abilities.

**Now, to respond to lookyoung’s question: “What the hell are you doing with a short, broke, asian guy?”

Oh man, if I got a cookie every time someone asked me that, I’d be on Jenny Craig. XD

The answer is simple yet adopts an almost boorishly long format. We were very close friends who happened to have strong feelings for each other, yet thought we were in each other’s Friend Zone. Finally, I was fed up with keeping my feelings to myself, made the first move, kissed him, and then the truth was out. To break it down, I suppose it would be most efficient to address the following topics:
1. height
2. money
3. race

1. Vu is four inches shorter than me. I am 5’8”. Many women won’t date a shorter man, and likewise most men refuse to date a taller woman. On one level, I understand (it’s an instinctual reaction we really can’t help), and on another, more substantial level I think it’s ridiculous to let something like height get in the way of a great relationship. It’s like refusing to date people with blond hair or another physical trait they have no control over. (I am not, however, saying that attraction is completely unimportant; I believe there does need to be a degree of physical attraction in a relationship.)

That said, I’ve never really noticed Vu’s height. All that time in the supposed Friend Zone, Vu thought I wouldn’t want to date him because of the height difference. And you know what? Height is only an issue if you make it an issue. It really doesn’t bother us. We still go everywhere and kiss in public. And no, penis size really doesn’t matter—it’s technique that counts.

2. My boyfriend is, literally, from the ghetto. His family hardly has any money and he got to school completely on scholarships (he is SMART). When he’s not in class, he works 12-hour days at his family’s restaurant. He doesn’t have the big bucks. As I mentioned in the other thread: Money isn't the most important thing I look for in a man. While I would never say that "money doesn't matter" (because, in the long run, it does to an extent) I would never date a guy just because of his paycheck. Personality is the first thing I look for.

3. Vu and his entire family are from Vietnam. His parents don’t speak much English; he speaks English and Vietnamese with equal fluency. In my eyes, love is colorblind. Race shouldn’t matter. Cultural differences can, viably, break up a relationship, but the race itself should not be a factor. Like height, it’s only an issue if you make it one. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a white girl like me dating an asian.

My family had no problems with Vu’s Vietnamese-ness. They like him a lot. It was his family, actually, that had qualms with the interracial nature of our relationship. They are very traditional and want him to only date (and, ultimately, marry) traditional Vietnamese girls. They were upset at first about him dating me, but, over time, have become much more accepting of me.

I am not writing myself off as amazing or trying to put myself up there on a pedestal. As a matter of fact, I hate being pedestalized, if there ever was such a word. The purpose of this response is to provide an example to all you fine gentlemen that not all women are into rich bodybuilders that stand at about 6’4”. Not all women are airheads, superficial, or apt to turn a blind eye to what the media tells us is less-than-adequate. There are real people out there: have a little faith, eh?

I do not expect comments or people to nod and agree with me. I will not argue with you; you’ve already read my opinion. If you want to pass me by because I’m a woman, go ahead, it’s an interesting trend I’ve noticed on these forums.

Please feel free to pm me with questions, epiphanies, etc. I’ll reply honestly unless it’s something along the lines of “Lolz, boobies.” XD

Thank you for your time and good night.
 

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Your point?

Just some girl being an attention *****, in my opinion. But there are lots of these on the net.
 

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Truly, I must admire you for starting this thread to explain some about yourself, however, according to the personal study I have performed, you are obviously one in a million. Height, Finances, Status, all that stuff is critical to the average woman.

Nothing against you, but by you coming here to share your insight, you are already showing that you're different. And, by that alone, we have to know that what you look for in a man will be greatly different than the so-called "standard".

There are a lot more women who are very interested in finding a guy who is tall dark and handsome, rich, and who is well thought of among their peers, than there are women like yourself who are willing to look a little deeper...

And, by your own admission, you've already found your guy, we have to focus on getting the women who aren't so accomodating.
 

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Just to clarify: Is he muscular?
Oh, and do you think he will make it big someday, being smart and hard working?
 

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Lolz, Boobies...

:cool:
 

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dynamicallyidle said:
Your point?

Just some girl being an attention *****, in my opinion. But there are lots of these on the net.

Dude let me tell you something this thread is more valuable than 85% of the threads on this site. When I first joined this site I could not believe some of the questions that were asked? She is at least speaking from the heart on this. Which is the only thing we can expect from any poster.

Girl in a boy forum- No need to thank me I am just being honest just like I am on this site and in real life.
 

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yake said:
Just to clarify: Is he muscular?
Oh, and do you think he will make it big someday, being smart and hard working?
He's slender but pretty toned and strong (he's heavy into sailing, soccer, and running). I don't like muscly men. And he'll definitely succeed in life...his SATs and ACTs were amazing, and he's planning on becoming a lawyer. Sort of one of those people who can be good and successful at whatever they set their minds to.
 

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dynamicallyidle said:
Your point?

Just some girl being an attention *****, in my opinion. But there are lots of these on the net.
girl_in_a_boy_forum said:
I do not expect comments or people to nod and agree with me. I will not argue with you; you’ve already read my opinion. If you want to pass me by because I’m a woman, go ahead, it’s an interesting trend I’ve noticed on these forums.
^^^
 

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It’s an interesting point… but you shouldn’t treat your current view like it will remain unchanged… you’re 19… I’ve met a lot of chicks that ran with the same point of view as you until they hit a certain age and then sh!t changed… a relationship obviously involves two parties too, so maybe while everything is going swimmingly for you now, your guy may look elsewhere

I don’t want to be negative… I wish you and your BF all the best but maybe one day you’ll look back and think that you were being a little naïve… a lot of people are skeptical when it comes to relationships because failure typically breeds skepticism… I’ve never had any real heartfelt failures and I love every aspect of my life so much but I’m still skeptical of this kind of viewpoint because I’ve seen other peoples rosy view of life shattered by such a failure…think of it like having your cherry popped and how the innocent little girl gets left behind somewhere – it’s not too different from when people experience failure in a relationship…

Also, progressing through University I’ve noted how the so-called ‘rules’ are slightly different… some people will meet at University, develop successful careers together and live happily ever after but there’s also the chicks who come out of being a student and enter the real world and realize that the values within it, and what matters, is totally different… its then when the rules and priorities you read about on this forum come into play… not having the big house / apartment now is cool, but would you be so content by the time you’re 24 and still living like a student (although, if your BF stays on track then that may never be an issue)
 

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Ashley Chuckles said:
It’s an interesting point… but you shouldn’t treat your current view like it will remain unchanged… you’re 19… I’ve met a lot of chicks that ran with the same point of view as you until they hit a certain age and then sh!t changed… a relationship obviously involves two parties too, so maybe while everything is going swimmingly for you now, your guy may look elsewhere

I don’t want to be negative… I wish you and your BF all the best but maybe one day you’ll look back and think that you were being a little naïve… a lot of people are skeptical when it comes to relationships because failure typically breeds skepticism… I’ve never had any real heartfelt failures and I love every aspect of my life so much but I’m still skeptical of this kind of viewpoint because I’ve seen other peoples rosy view of life shattered by such a failure…think of it like having your cherry popped and how the innocent little girl gets left behind somewhere – it’s not too different from when people experience failure in a relationship…

Also, progressing through University I’ve noted how the so-called ‘rules’ are slightly different… some people will meet at University, develop successful careers together and live happily ever after but there’s also the chicks who come out of being a student and enter the real world and realize that the values within it, and what matters, is totally different… its then when the rules and priorities you read about on this forum come into play… not having the big house / apartment now is cool, but would you be so content by the time you’re 24 and still living like a student (although, if your BF stays on track then that may never be an issue)
You are definitely in the right, my friend. :thumbs: I have much growing up to do and realize that. One day I may grow bitter and uptight, or etc. I'm sure the 30-year-old me would not be saying the same things that the current me is saying now--and that's good. I'd be worried if I didn't change at all over time. At the very least I'd like to look back on my time with him fondly.

Thanks for the comment and peace out ^_^
 

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Are you from Olympia?

I sense you fear your lovely boyfriend ticks all your intellectual and liberal (not that that's a dirty word) boxes, but you are beginning to realise that you also have baser, less politically correct needs that only a more testosterone-fuelled bad-boy can satisfy, hence your fascination with this place.

How d'ya like them apples?
 

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I think your post is great, i get sick of the same guys who call themselves "Don Juan", call every woman a wh*re or slvt, and flame you with stupid comments because they think they are being "Alpha" or whatever (Like DynamicallyIdle).

Well, guess again, you pr!cks aren't alpha at all, just childish, and blind.

I don't mind you around the forums, though i certainly don't encourage any more women to come along. If everything you said is true, then i guess you really are a rare case, not many women would act like you do.

If you and your boyfriend are living happy lives, that's what matters right? So many of the guys on this site are somewhat shallow minded, and only aim to get any woman they want, but i think, past that, there is this deeper sense of longing for happiness instead, and when they look back, they'll blush, and feel embarrassed. Not that I don't think developing your skills with women isn't a good thing, or isn't important, it's just that after all it all, what most of us really will long for is happiness.

Guess the bottom line is, ignore the childish ones that flame you for being here and try and act like a "Don Juan" or "Pick Up Artist". Do what you want, i like your posts, they are interesting. Just don't tell your friends about the site or anything, I don't think having more women here will be any good to the site. :nono:

They may not all be as accepting, or "Good-hearted" as you.
 

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What the hell are you doing with a short, broke, asian guy?
Just another situation that goes to prove that women don't necessarily focus on physical appearance or the size of a guy's wallet to be attracted to him. If you've got a winning personality (confident, positive, exciting, happy) you'll have no problem attracting women.
 

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Desdinova said:
Just another situation that goes to prove that women don't necessarily focus on physical appearance or the size of a guy's wallet to be attracted to him. If you've got a winning personality (confident, positive, exciting, happy) you'll have no problem attracting women.

This guy is also a scholarship pre-law student who will probably go on to make big $$.
 

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