Double Your Dating

[Matty]

I'm about half way though David De Angelo's book Double Your Dating, and I'm some what unsure how I feel about his approach to women. It appears the premise of his approach is create a "character", and to embody this character fully, forever. It's different, to say the least.

Has anyone read his book?

What's your take on his method?

-Matty

 

[SilverSonnet]

I remember reading his book about a year back, and I found that he complicated things excessively. he provides some sound advice, but using his technique to approach women? I wouldn't personally. But, each to their own. Different things work for different people, so try different methods, and find one that works well for you. I'm going with the natural way. No techniques or canned lines, just using my confidence, suave ways, charm etc to pull women and improve my life as a whole.

Remember DJism is not just about picking up women, it's about making yourself into someone who is loved by most, and will be mourned for by crowds. DJism is about improving your life and yourself into the person you've longed to be forever. the suave MAN, who knows what he wants and goes after it with lust, passion and desire, and attains it easily.

My 2 cents
Peace out
Ben

 

[Jitterbug]

It's a decent guide. Good enough to start out with, if you're not yet down with the basics. It opened my eyes to a lot of things. Why don't you go out in the field and give his advices a real try? Then you won't have to ask us whether it works for *you*. It works for some, not all. I use some of it, after a few months of field-testing, and ignore the rest. Pretty much like every other advice, really.

I remember reading his book about a year back, and I found that he complicated things excessively.

And how did you draw that conclusion at the tender age of 13? Did you actually field-test his techniques and advices? DYD targets adults, not high school kids. Those are very different dating worlds. You seem very well-versed in DJ language, but I think you should hold back your enthusiasm a little bit.

 

[lyamdb]

You can find good points in there but the most important disadvantage of the book is that the author is not a DJ himself. He has just done vast research through PU material. Therefore reading the book you get no new attitude, which as far as I know is the most important thing such a book should present. it has to give you new insight and charge you up with positive energy and motivate you. But unfortunately David D sounds like a bored chump himself. Compare him to Juggler or Tyler Durdon for example and you'll know what I'm saying. DD's knowledge isn't comming from experience.

 

[Jitterbug]

You need to know the target audience of DYD. For those who could understand the concepts in your post, they may not need a guide like DYD. But there are plenty of people - in fact many on this very forum - could do well to learn some basic principles from DYD and master them.

David D doesn't glorify routines and canned lines. You got the wrong guy. Mystery has also moved on from his routine days.

DYD contains the very principles you just posted there, and it has a lot of important lessons very similar to the DJ Bible.

I think you guys either haven't read it or have read it so long ago and forgotten most of it.

 

[Jitterbug]

I'm about half way though David De Angelo's book Double Your Dating, and I'm some what unsure how I feel about his approach to women. It appears the premise of his approach is create a "character", and to embody this character fully, forever. It's different, to say the least.

Matty, on that "character", some call it "fake it until you make it", some call it a goal for you to work towards building a better, more attractive version of yourself. It is training wheel materials.

The book targets AFCs. Bombarding people who are clueless about women and dating with "BE A MAN" and "BE NATURAL" inspirational speeches does not work. They're better off working towards it in small steps.

Eventually you move on from it and to the more advanced stuff (which are in fact simpler in words but a lot harder to grasp). But DYD serves well as a starting out guide to get AFCs off their arses and into the Field where they crash & burn and gain valuable lessons for themselves.

If anyone can have that much criticism for DYD, might as well do the same for the DJ Bible for the most parts.

 

[Jitterbug]

I haven't listened to David D's podcast or CDs. I've read DYD and some of his newsletters. DYD contains things like:

- What women are attracted to
- Why they play games
- It's OK to be a man
- Atittude and inner game
- Your enemies are insecurity and neediness
- Why women test men
- Be prepared
- Where/how to meet women (the dance lessons one is gold - that's what I used and now I'm a dancer who's surrounded by beautiful women daily)
- The first date is not an interview

Can't really fault any of those. Most of them are what discussed on this very forum daily.

I didn't know Mystery had moved on from that sort of stuff, the last I remember of him was his VHS1 show, I never watched it, but I got the impression from others, that he was jsut giving his students routines and canned material to use.

He's playing around with new things.

Mystery does routines and canned materials because it's very much congruent with his personality. He's a magician, a gamer and a nerd. I've read his work. People who parrot him miss the point. I wasn't interested in his lines, but I was interested in how and why he came up with them and for what situations, so that I could come up with my own. Of course it helps to be natural, but it also helps to be prepared to deal with situations that tend to be repeated.

 

[WaRpEd]

Haven't read it but like any other advise in the world, it's purpose is to give you a general idea. It's up to you to use it how you see fit.

If you go to karate class and learn a kata, you can not use that kata in a real fight. You'll get the snot beat out of you, possibly even killed. Instead it's reason of existing is to give you a general idea of the movements you need to possibly survive.

If you go to a painting instructor and learn how to paint a landscape, you can't go home and expect to use exactly what he told you to paint a seascape. Instead it's up to you to utilize the general methods he taught you to paint what you want.

He's telling you how he walks and giving you a good general idea of how you should walk. He's not telling you where to walk.

 

[ChrizZ]

There is no fool proof method. The methods are mostly supposed to make you feel good about yourself. It's all about trial and error when it comes to getting better with women. It's a long and very painful process.

95% is about taking action and the rest is reading.

Most people do it the other way around though and never get anywhere.

 

[Sekond]

There is no fool proof method. The methods are mostly supposed to make you feel good about yourself. It's all about trial and error when it comes to getting better with women. It's a long and very painful process.

95% is about taking action and the rest is reading.

Most people do it the other way around though and never get anywhere.

What? you mean you can't read these books and be a DJ over night?!!?!?

haha, jk, yeah it is true that the content is moreso just the path leading to the destination, but you have to walk it to get to the destination. I am actually reading it now as well, and it is no different than other books out there as they really just teach you to be a man, have priorities over women, and don't doubt yourself ESPECIALLY if you go to talk to a woman.

I have to admit though, the lines he used towards women in the book crack me up.:crackup:

 

[DonGorgon]

I wan to half my dating but double the quality of the women I date.

 

[Mr. Me]

C&F is a type of character trait that engages people and exudes fun and charisma. As such, this is good direction to give to nerdy wallfower guys or "nice guys" or AFCs who otherwise don't have any game.

The rest of the DeAngelo stuff falls into one of two categories.

1. He realizes the value of marketing to existing customers and so continually creates new product. It may be interesting, it may be helpful, but ultimately, it will never end. So we see Inner Game, Meeting Women Online, Guru Tips, How To This, How To That, whatever...

2. Beyond C&F, he hasn't much of a clue. His advice is kind of worthless. Hey, he's only been doing this for a few years.

 

[Sandow]

For those of you that have read his book, David D clearly says, DO NOT MEMORIZE THESE LINES. YOU SHOULD COME UP WITH YOUR OWN MATERIAL!
That being said, he's just giving you an idea of what ****y funny is. There's no other way to explain it without giving examples.

Some of his lines are pretty funny, but never does he say use these lines and you will get laid. His ****y funny is just a variation of confidence. thats all. he also recommends saying the unexpected, because that shows confidence too.

I personally find the book ok. It definitely gives you an idea of how to display confidence in a different way. This is definitely not a magic bullet to get girls, lol! in fact C/F mostly works with guys that are below average with girls, whether it be in looks or social skills (hint: david D comes pretty close to fitting this type).

WARNING: Any guy that is good looking or has charm that appears ****y is just a huge turn off for girls. I'm talking from experience here. DYD was the first book that opened my eyes when I was an AFC. I consider myself decent looking and whenever i said anything c/f it turned girls off.

My point being, there are better ways to display confidence. C/F sounds like your bragging about yourself and comes off too conceited for me. Like i said, C/F is for guys who lack confidence, but if you already have it, don't be too C/F!!

Lastly, use this book as a tool to give you an idea of how to seperate yourself from the crowd. Understand how to display confidence, what not to say, what sounds AFC to girls, etc. Instead Come up with your own way to display confidence. there are infinite ways to do that.

 

[War Against Betaism]

*hasn't read the entire thread*

Double Your Dating is a good and bad DJ book for beginners. It's good because it does a great job of making even the most hardcore AFC's the truth about women and how to attract them. The bad because I honestly feel his methods are a bit too much on the jerk side, especially his ****y and funny. He tells people to constantly bust on a girls balls using ****y and funny all the time, though I've never really attracted a women using c&f. It was just because I was confident and displayed myself as a high status male.

[edit] Well I suppose c&f did attract a lot of women for me, but it wasn't really the bulk of my game when I gamed on them.

To me he's what Style calls a social robot. If you read some of his newsletters, he is such a bad evaluator at seeing what's funny.