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Robert28

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have you ever met a girl who's been the town ***** basically, and slept with alot of other guys and been everyone's f*ck buddy but when they meet you they're like "I just want to get to know you, I don't want a relationship based on just sex". and I'm thinking "why me? why can't i be one of those dudes who didn't have to go through all that crap to get some. why did they get to be your f*ck buddy but i have to be your boyfriend to get it?" i know that might sound shallow but i was just wondering if i was the only one this happened to. this girl i'm speaking of is NOT ltr material because i have watched her openly flirt with guys(my friend who's married being on of them) and i see red flags going up everywhere. damn shes hot though so i don't want to next her.
 

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News flash! They always say this type of shyt. You don't think that type of chick has fed EVERY guy that same line before allowing copious amounts of jizzbombs to be dropped on her?

Pay no attention to what they say. Her reputation speaks for itself. Doesn't it? So...unless for some God forsaken reason you see her as relationship material, treat her like the dirty little skank she is. She'll love you for it.
 

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how do you do that? youre talking to a guy whos been AFC most of his life but had his DJ momments too.haha
 

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Robert28 said:
have you ever met a girl who's been the town ***** basically, and slept with alot of other guys and been everyone's f*ck buddy but when they meet you they're like "I just want to get to know you, I don't want a relationship based on just sex". and I'm thinking "why me? why can't i be one of those dudes who didn't have to go through all that crap to get some. why did they get to be your f*ck buddy but i have to be your boyfriend to get it?" i know that might sound shallow but i was just wondering if i was the only one this happened to. this girl i'm speaking of is NOT ltr material because i have watched her openly flirt with guys(my friend who's married being on of them) and i see red flags going up everywhere. damn shes hot though so i don't want to next her.
She sees you as the provider so she realizes she has to ration it out to keep you wanting to stick around. It's kinda like chicks that say "Oh, I'm on the pill. You don't need to wear that silly old condom!" and then 6 weeks later you find out she's preggers and hear, "I don't know what happened!" Yeah, right. They do it to trap you. That's the bottom line.

There's also a tipping point they hit when they start getting older. They finally start to figure out that the pump & dump won't net them a beta "quality" guy so they turn off the free samples and change their SOP.

There's a really good Tom Leykis episode that went over this really well. I'll see if I can dig it up.
 

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Robert28 said:
how do you do that? youre talking to a guy whos been AFC most of his life but had his DJ momments too.haha
Don't spend money on her..or talk to her for hours on the phone. Don't compliment her (unless it's concerning her hummer giving abilities). Don't give her any reason to think you want her for anything more than sex. You aren't talking about a wallflower here, you're talking about a chick who has shown a propensity towards the bad-boy alpha pump and dumpers. Be the guy she has a history of banging.
 

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I frickin hate this too. It's so stupid! It's like they think that just by making one guy go through all the getting to know you BS it makes them less of a *****. Any girl who's like that will always be like that.
 

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don't act feminine. No long phone calls, no worrying about voicing your difference of opinion, act a little tough, tada.
 

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I am no town *****, but I have had a few one night stands. When I meet someone i genuinly like, I do tell them that they are gonna have to wait a while for it, as i dont want to rush things. I do this for two reasons:
1. I dont want him to think I ma easy and just think of me as a **** buddy
2. I know that 75% of what i do in the bedroom is really slutty, and i need to clarify that I may be a dirty little *****, but i'm not easy.
I strongly believe if you are going to do something, do it properly with full passion, but doing that with someone who you want a ltr with can be tricky.

So, would you go fro a ltr with a woman who took you to seventh heaven on your first date? It would take a long time for that woman to redeem herself... thats the impression i get.
 

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Cinamon said:
I am no town *****, but I have had a few one night stands. When I meet someone i genuinly like, I do tell them that they are gonna have to wait a while for it, as i dont want to rush things. I do this for two reasons:
1. I dont want him to think I ma easy and just think of me as a **** buddy
2. I know that 75% of what i do in the bedroom is really slutty, and i need to clarify that I may be a dirty little *****, but i'm not easy.
I strongly believe if you are going to do something, do it properly with full passion, but doing that with someone who you want a ltr with can be tricky.

So, would you go fro a ltr with a woman who took you to seventh heaven on your first date? It would take a long time for that woman to redeem herself... thats the impression i get.

Stop being an apologist for a woman you don't even know. We weren't talking about you. He's talking about a known slvt. Key word is KNOWN.

To the original poster, please disregard cinamons statements, believing that crap will having you playing captain save a hoe and being a rest haven for broke down old hoes. If she want's to play "brand new" she needs to do it with someone who doesn't know her.

You know exactly how she acts, and what speaks louder than words?

It's not so much that your a beta provider male, don't let that sh1t get in your head or fvck with you confidence. I've met women like this and they knew I was good catch, but because I was nice they thought they could run things, I treated em like all the rest of the players did. See people often mistake niceness for weakness.

If you know that you have strong AFC tendencies, leave her alone. You know what she is and she's gonna make a presidential campaign to change your mind otherwise. How strong is your mind? That's the question. If you know you aren't strong enough to pump her and dump her, leave her alone. If you find yourself thinking, those other guys just didn't realize what a good woman she is...you've lost. Your already focusing on the hotness. Remember, hotness is just like looking looking at a Mercedes that MIGHT have a Kia engine in it. It's just the packaging for the product. You already know what the product is, don't get caught up in the packaging. Good luck.
 

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I don't see what the difference is. I mean if you really want to have sex with someone that's what you should do. Especially if your attracted to them. If they label you a slut or treat you in a manner you don't like don't deal with them. You can't go to an LTR level directly, without having down and dirty fun first (you need attraction first, smoke before fire). I would go for an LTR after I feel secure enough to have it so. An LTR should be based on how someone treats you on a regular basis, not whether or not you gave it up on the first date.

To the OP. This has happened to others (I can attest to this personally). Yes you can be one of those dudes but you have to break through their facade.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Stop being an apologist for a woman you don't even know. We weren't talking about you. He's talking about a known slvt. Key word is KNOWN.

To the original poster, please disregard cinamons statements, believing that crap will having you playing captain save a hoe and being a rest haven for broke down old hoes. If she want's to play "brand new" she needs to do it with someone who doesn't know her.

You know exactly how she acts, and what speaks louder than words?

It's not so much that your a beta provider male, don't let that sh1t get in your head or fvck with you confidence. I've met women like this and they knew I was good catch, but because I was nice they thought they could run things, I treated em like all the rest of the players did. See people often mistake niceness for weakness.

If you know that you have strong AFC tendencies, leave her alone. You know what she is and she's gonna make a presidential campaign to change your mind otherwise. How strong is your mind? That's the question. If you know you aren't strong enough to pump her and dump her, leave her alone. If you find yourself thinking, those other guys just didn't realize what a good woman she is...you've lost. Your already focusing on the hotness. Remember, hotness is just like looking looking at a Mercedes that MIGHT have a Kia engine in it. It's just the packaging for the product. You already know what the product is, don't get caught up in the packaging. Good luck.

best advice i heard so far! too bad i didnt read this weeks ago when i met her. ive already lost and pulled the plug on the whole thing. she's into my friends husband, its brutally obvoius too. she flirsts with him right in front of EVERYONE(me, his wife, the dog, their kids, anyone thats around). my friends strung me all wrong with his girl. they talked me into treating her "different then other guys have" and from what they told me it was working. i got some bad advice basically. in other words when i should have been passing i ran the ball. i think my friends husband likes her too because he strung me along to keep her around just so shed keep coming around. i finally caught on. now the husband and wife are aruging over this skank and im out of it.
 
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