dont you hate it when

[Rollo Tomassi]

Hesitate and ye are lost.

This takes practice and a constant effort to perfect, but when you have it becomes second nature - so here's a secret; you must learn to pay attention. That sounds stupidly obvious of course, but how many times have we let opportunity slip by simply because we were distracted or preoccupied with ourselves?

I'll give you a couple of funny examples here. I've trained myself over the course of about 6 years to be attentive and conscious of people and their conversations in my immediate surroundings. As a result this has made for some really fun encounters. I was in line at a local grocery store last Saturday morning and I was listening in on the conversation of the young people who were behind the checkout counter. There was a cashier who was intent on her ringing everyone up, doing her job and behind her was the assistant manager and a bagging guy. The assistant manager looked about 25 and slightly fat, the bagging guy was about 19, tall, maybe a high school athlete once and they were engaged in a conversation about men and women interacting. During the course of their conversation the guy mentioned how it was OK to call a woman cute or hot, or complimenting her on her beauty by say she was "handsome." The asst. manager (Amanda, by her name tag) took offense saying "oh yeah, good luck with calling a girl 'handsome', she'd slap your face!"

I was behind only one person in the line so I timed myself and waited for their conversation to develop a bit more. I then smiled at the cashier, made eye contact, paid for my goods and as I was getting my bag from the bag guy, I looked at Amanda, smiled and said with all the sincerity in the world, "Amanda, has anyone told you what a handsome young lady you are lately?" She instantly blushed, and had a coy look on her face. I then turned to the kid and said, "It's all in the delivery son, it's all in the delivery." He and the cashier busted up laughing at Amanda as I left, but this was all because I cared enough to pay attention.

On another occasion about 2 months ago, I was standing in line at Firehouse Subs with some co-workers. If you've ever been into Firehouse you know that they make a habit of saying "Welcome to Firehouse" to everyone who comes in the shop and they always say "Thanks for coming, have a good day" when you leave. Most of the people there at the noon lunch rush are there to scarf their food as fast as possible and bail out the door to get back to work, so it doesn't make for the most congenial atmosphere if you get my drift. I'd happened to pay attention to a couple of guys working behind the counter and one was grumbling to the other about why it was they always had to say the "Have a good day" line when people were leaving. "It's not like anyone ever acknoledges that sh!t these days anyway" says the tall black kid who's name tag read Andre. After we'd finished eating and were on our way out they very predictably called out the "Have a good day" line, at which point I stopped in the door, pointed at this kid and called back as loud as I could "No, you have a good day Andre!" Everyone in the shop payed attention and I got big ass smile out of that kid making $6/hour. My Co-workers, completely dumbfounded, asked me why I did that so I explained it to them. I had payed attention to my surroundings.

People with a sense of wit are often more attentive to their surroundings. The only difference is that they capitalize on it. It takes practice, and a patience that most people don't want to invest in, but when you are more aware of your environments - in a club, at school, in a gym at the grocery store, etc. - you seem witty. ****y & Funny flows naturally when you pay attention to conversation, attitude, physical habits, visual cues etc.

 

[Ever onward]

We can all tell ourselves whatever we want to believe in. Belief alone does NOt change the reality of anything EVER. THis fashionable thinking - "If I believe it it will appear" is magical thinking for the most part. It is another silly attempt to convinvce ourselves that we have more power over our existence that we ACTUALLY have. However if it makes you 'feel' optimistic to believe this new age crap then go ahead. I do not buy it - my successes come from intellect,rigorous design and taking action AFTER I form my goal in thought. Thoughts are just thoughts .
You guys maybe read too much Tony R. et al.
The reality is that Joker said that he is very picky about his type which strongly suggests that his "TYPE" appear rarely(to him). Call it scarcity if you wish.

Ah you're talking about the Secret and the LOA aren't you?

What I was talking about is very real. Which is that beliefs influence behavior

If Joe holds on to the belief that his type of women are scarce, then he will behave accordingly. If he believes that there are women of his type everywhere, then he will be more willing to take a chance and find out, as he should have done in this case.

 

[MikeYikes122]

so im at walmart today and there are two women in line in front of me. one is 25-ish the other is 30-ish.

the 30-ish one was perfectly my type. im REALLY picky about 'my type'. there are lots of chics ill date and find attractive, but very very few who are exactly the type of woman that floats my boat as much as it can be floated.

so anyway, the two of them are standing in line. i can see in their cart that they have baby diapers. so instantly my interest goes to zero. i dont date women with kids. much less im not about to mack on a woman in line who is buying diapers for her kid. plus, the cold approach is not my forte unless im in the right mood / mind set for it.

add to this the fact that ive got the flu and wasnt feel good.

anyway, they go to pay and its the 25-ish girl who was buying the diapers. then the other woman checked out after her and was really friendly to the clerk etc.

im telling ya, this was one of those women who I found unbelievably attractive but who probably didn't get hit on a lot. she had that kind of shy but friendly personality - which is exaclty what i like.

now, add to that this chic had no wedding ring and was in walmart on a saturday evening - which means 95% chance she didn't have a guy.

so long story short, i did nothing. i let the opportunity slip through my fingers just cuz i thought maybe she had a kid and because i wasn't feeling great.

thought id post this as per the recent thread on regret. i may have just let a woman perfectly suited for me get away - D'OH!

but on the bright side, its been a while since a woman has sparked my interest the way this one did. which is good because it reminds me that there are women out there who will give me that 'magical' feeling. instead of how it usually goes where i think to myself 'ya, she'd be an ok f*ck, might as well strike up a conversation"

Man I had this same feeling the other night when I was in the grocery store. A girl who was gorgeous in a non-conventional way was standing in front of me in line. I'm like you. I don't go for the cold approach unless the feeling is right, and in front of me in a checkout line really doesn't constitute right.

She was really friendly with the clerk, probably a girl I would have gotten along with real well.

I kicked myself for it as I was loading my groceries into my car. It's good to know other people make mistakes like this as well.

 

[joekerr31]

Man I had this same feeling the other night when I was in the grocery store. A girl who was gorgeous in a non-conventional way was standing in front of me in line. I'm like you. I don't go for the cold approach unless the feeling is right, and in front of me in a checkout line really doesn't constitute right.

She was really friendly with the clerk, probably a girl I would have gotten along with real well.

I kicked myself for it as I was loading my groceries into my car. It's good to know other people make mistakes like this as well.

for all the talk of meeting women in the grocery store, i've yet to observe a guy picking up a chic there. and i go to the grocery store probably 52 times a year. so over the past 12 years i've been there 624 times and have yet to see a guy picking up a chic.

has anyone here ever picked up a chic cold in the grocery store?

 

[mzilla2]

I hear ya, dunno if I have a "type" but I have missed movin' on a few attractive chicks that gave me IOI's lately, and sure kicked myself after... Hesitation = masturbation.

 

[mzilla2]

has anyone here ever picked up a chic cold in the grocery store?

Yes, a few times, in fact, it's one of my faves - I gotta shop anyhow.

And I bake alot - GREAT conversation starter, ask 'em "Hmm, I'm baking tonite: what do you think - chocolate chip cookies, or oatmeal raisin?" Often they'll be quite intrigued, so extend the invite for a taste test, more often than not I get a number out of 'em. Make sure to ask them if what THEY are bringing in return (qualifying) - coffee works.

LOL - just make sure they get the hint that you're NOT GAY.

 

[STR8UP]

for all the talk of meeting women in the grocery store, i've yet to observe a guy picking up a chic there. and i go to the grocery store probably 52 times a year. so over the past 12 years i've been there 624 times and have yet to see a guy picking up a chic.

has anyone here ever picked up a chic cold in the grocery store?

Haha....I think it only happens in the movies, even though every time someone tries to give you advice on where to pick up women they say "Church, volunteer organizations, book stores, and, oh yea, the grocery store"

 

[Ever onward]

for all the talk of meeting women in the grocery store, i've yet to observe a guy picking up a chic there. and i go to the grocery store probably 52 times a year. so over the past 12 years i've been there 624 times and have yet to see a guy picking up a chic.

has anyone here ever picked up a chic cold in the grocery store?

I've never picked up a chick in the grocery store but I did have some other crazier pick ups a few years ago doing the DJ Bootcamp. These were absolutely real, I sh1t you not.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58872&page=8&highlight=onward+bootcamp

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops,


ACTUALLY, I would say that the vast majority of the women I meet are from COLD APPROACHES / DIRECT GAME.

And 8 out of the last 10 women that I have successfully approached this past year have ALL been either IN the grocery store, OR leaving OUT of the grocery store.

I know it always sounds like a cliche, but believe it or not, it's really NOT that unusual or difficult when you're comfortable with approaching them there-----AND you have that "take no prisoners" mindset when you're doing it.

In fact, there are times when I go out to certain venues (see----GROCERY STORES, MALLS, SPORTING EVENTS, FESTIVALS, etc.), when the ONLY reason I am there IS to meet women.

Think of it like a MILITARY OPERATION:

What you're doing while you're walking around the store is REALLY "recon". And the basket that you're pushing or carrying is REALLY your cover, or your CAMOFLAUGE. Even as you talk on your cellphone while you peruse items on the same aisle as "your target", what you're really doing is leading "your enemy" into having a false sense of security. Many have NO idea that you've been checking them out THOROUGHLY until you smile and make eye contact. And "when" and "if" they RETURN your smile and/or make eye contact, THAT'S when you know it's time to "pull the trigger".

THIS type of manuever works for me MORE than you could imagine. I suggest that those who HAVEN'T seriously considered targeting women in venues like these, please consider it. The WORST thing that will happen is that you leave the store WITHOUT having picked up THAT particular babe as "an item".

The mindset that you have AT THE TIME that these scenarios play out is EVERYTHING, though.

You see, sometimes if you go to the grocery store JUST thinking about "eating up", all you'll see is food.

BUT, if you go to the grocery store thinking about "picking up", you might just find that all you'll see IS women.


SHOP ON!

 

[jophil28]

Ah you're talking about the Secret and the LOA aren't you?
What I was talking about is very real. Which is that beliefs influence behavior

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The SECRET is a simplistic representation of a complex matrix of human behavior. However,the notion that we send out "vibrations" which are detected by "the universe " and then the universe responds to out mindset may be comforting, but it is just silly.

I agree with you that beliefs influence behavior - in fact I would go a step further and say that beliefs DRIVE behavior,and it is the ACTION that we take that ultimately changes our lives. If our beliefs are bad, our actions which follow will therefor be self defeating or even dangerous.