Don't Take Women Seriously

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Stop thinking of it in terms of "power". That's an insecure frame of mind to be in, because you turn a simple thing like dating and f**king into some sort of competition.

I wouldn't say to not take her seriously, but I would advise you to pay attention to the subtle hints and details behind what she is saying, what she is doing when she's telling you something, and the way her body language melds with her words.

Sometimes, a woman is being completely honest with you. Other times, she's just putting up a little resistance. If you pay attention to her body language, you will pick up on whether or not you need to take her seriously or not.
 

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justiceseeker said:
I started a legitimate thread here trying to give advice. Again, nandy pants hijacks my thread. How many times is he going to be allowed to do this before he's banned?

Message me in private if you have something to say Mr "I won't give me cell number, but I'll come to your house and fight you"
You're a troll, so it automatically makes this thread not legitimate. You should be banned for flaming, trolling, and racist posts. I am merely warning members so they know not to take you seriously. Back to my ignore list chump

To the other members, OP posted the pic below as if it's him and claims to be 6'5, which would mean he has some special fridge that is taller than him! LOL! When asked to post pics to confirm his identity he never would, and instead said people could request to see him on cam in yahoo! :crackup: He is trolling once again.

http://s329.photobucket.com/albums/l363/justiceseeker_2008/?action=view&current=RYSEA8BEBJEU.jpg
 

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nando said:
You're a troll, so it automatically makes this thread not legitimate. You should be banned for flaming, trolling, and racist posts. I am merely warning members so they know not to take you seriously. Back to my ignore list chump

To the other members, OP posted the pic below as if it's him and claims to be 6'5, which would mean he has some special fridge that is taller than him! LOL! When asked to post pics to confirm his identity he never would, and instead said people could request to see him on cam in yahoo! :crackup: He is trolling once again.

http://s329.photobucket.com/albums/l363/justiceseeker_2008/?action=view&current=RYSEA8BEBJEU.jpg
Again this taco bell employee keeps hijacking my threads. He's obsessed with me in a homosexual way. I should start a thread about this. How do you handle fat mexican guys who have a man crush on you?
 

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r0cky said:
This is what happens when nerds have too much time on their hands.
I wonder why you two can't get girls?
Nerd with too much time on their hands? I joined this forum in Dec 2007 and you joined in June 2008, yet I only have 6 more posts than you. Congratulations on managing to post almost as many posts as I did in 8 months, throughout only one summer. You surely must be a blast with ladies and having a great summer holiday! :crackup:
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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DonGorgon said:
Stop focusing on shallow, simple, superficial, crap that is much less important that the information at hand, from which you can learn. You come across like an over sensitive female or a typical 2008 AFC male when you do that.

Oh no i get it , this - "REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO, SHE HAS POWER!! Cause for every 2 women you get attention from she gets attention from 20 men." hurt your feeling so you wanted to lash out at the messenger...


...I'm a guy. Joking around. Hint: people will like you more if you learn to take a joke. Seems like you need to take this advice to heart.

This advice is solid. I'm diggin it.
 

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nando said:
He said that because like many others on this forum he recognized the fact that OP is a troll who aside from the hooker he felt up, has no real experience with women.

OP stole pics of a muscular male and claimed they were him and when called out to post a pic with a msg confirming he was the guy, he refused and made some bs excuse about how you can see him on cam, instead of posting the pic which takes 2 min. Any guy who needs to attention ***** on a forum like this with other men pics is not someone you want to be taking advice from.

you are an idiot, and should be banned on principle. if you're so obsessed with the OP, go pm him. Don't hijack perfectly good threads. This is why I visit this site less and less.
 

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HolyG said:
you are an idiot, and should be banned on principle. if you're so obsessed with the OP, go pm him. Don't hijack perfectly good threads. This is why I visit this site less and less.
You :cuss: ? Go relax clown, it will do you some good.
 

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r0cky said:
This is what happens when nerds have too much time on their hands.
I wonder why you two can't get girls?
Oooooh, ice burn!

On a more related note, the OP has some good advice, regardless of any posting history.

DonGorgon, a woman only has power over the men that give up their power. Since you assume that a woman has power over any man, and since I assume that you are in fact a man yourself, guess what that tells me about you. ^_-
 

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justiceseeker said:
If there's one piece of advice that will further your success with women more than almost any other, it's this.


When you take a woman seriously, you give her POWER. At that point, she knows that her words and actions will have an effect on you. This gives her a sense of empowerment. When she has this, she becomes the prize and you will eventually be dumped.

Now don't mistake not taking women seriously with being disrespectful. It has nothing to do with that. But when a woman gives you a shyt test, throws a tantrum, or pulls any other nonsense out of her ass, you simply either don't respond, or respond like you would to a child by making fun of her or laughing it off.

Why does this work so well? For whatever reason, when you take a woman seriously, they lose respect for you. Women know that 99.9 percent of what they do is BS and they will lose respect for you if you can't see that. You're not her girlfriend, you're not her doctor, you're not her psychologist, you're her boyfriend. Sure you can wrap your arms around her once in awhile if she's having a tough time, but never get too drippy. It's sad, but a lot of well meaning men have been nexted for being too caring during a tough time. You can't save anyone, you can only be who you are. Let the professionals handle that.

It's been said before, but if you treat your girlfriend like a bratty kid sister, she'll respect you more.
I just read this again and I wanted to say thank you for making this post. This is very true. When my girlfriend was depressed about her pathetic life and I was always trying to help her out, I realized that my help was useless and she didn't accept it anyway.

I'll give you an example. She was depressed that she didn't have a license. So I offered to take her to her road test, help her prepare for it, etc. She didn't accept my help. She eventually let her Dad help her with all that.

She was depressed that she wasn't in school. I offered to help her take a tour of this one school she wanted to go to, and she didn't even want to. She ended up taking a tour of it with her Mom.

I concluded that the girl really just had issues. She came over crying one day while I was in the backyard doing some work on an old bicycle, and I could just remember telling her I was going to help her and how that did nothing good for us. By taking her seriously, I was wrong. Whatever was making her so depressed may not even of been the reasons she mentioned. She was depressed when I met her, taking anti depressants every night. Maybe she was just chemically depressed. The point is, by her saying why she was upset and me offering to help, it actually did make her see me as less of a man.

An attractive man would say "okay, whatever, you'll figure it out" instead of saying "oh baby I'll help you, we'll work it out. You can be anything you want to be, I love you"

Today we are broken up for pretty much unknown reasons, she stopped returning my phone calls and completely ignored me when I saw her yesterday by chance. Kind of weird after a year long relationship, but I can translate woman into English. She lost interest because I took her seriously.

Very informative and eye opening post.
 

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guywhoneedshelp said:
I just read this again and I wanted to say thank you for making this post. This is very true. When my girlfriend was depressed about her pathetic life and I was always trying to help her out, I realized that my help was useless and she didn't accept it anyway.

I'll give you an example. She was depressed that she didn't have a license. So I offered to take her to her road test, help her prepare for it, etc. She didn't accept my help. She eventually let her Dad help her with all that.

She was depressed that she wasn't in school. I offered to help her take a tour of this one school she wanted to go to, and she didn't even want to. She ended up taking a tour of it with her Mom.

I concluded that the girl really just had issues. She came over crying one day while I was in the backyard doing some work on an old bicycle, and I could just remember telling her I was going to help her and how that did nothing good for us. By taking her seriously, I was wrong. Whatever was making her so depressed may not even of been the reasons she mentioned. She was depressed when I met her, taking anti depressants every night. Maybe she was just chemically depressed. The point is, by her saying why she was upset and me offering to help, it actually did make her see me as less of a man.

An attractive man would say "okay, whatever, you'll figure it out" instead of saying "oh baby I'll help you, we'll work it out. You can be anything you want to be, I love you"

Today we are broken up for pretty much unknown reasons, she stopped returning my phone calls and completely ignored me when I saw her yesterday by chance. Kind of weird after a year long relationship, but I can translate woman into English. She lost interest because I took her seriously.

Very informative and eye opening post.

I can very much relate to your situation. I also was with a girl who was depressed when I met her. Not only was she ungrateful for all the help I gave her, but she tried to blame me for some of her troubles.


Anytime she was depressed or was having a bad day, I would try to talk to her and tell her how much I loved her. I would buy her medications for her since she couldn't afford it. I would take her to her appointments and encourage her to go to them. One time when she tried to committ suicide, I stayed all night with her in the intensive care unit to make sure she was alright. On the other hand, her parents didn't even come to see her and acted very callous about the situation.


So what ended up happening? She left me and is living with her parents now. Talking about how great they are and never mentioning what I did for her. I swear, women love to be treated like ****. Anytime you show kindness or take their problems seriously, they lose respect for you. It really shows how fvcked modern women's psyche's have become. Belive me, if you're selfish and don't maker her a priority in your life, she'll reward you handsomely for it.


Do you notice on those talk shows or T.V. Judge shows how women end up with these friggen losers that mooch off them and don't pay child support? They come into court crying about what a bad guy he is. How he's selfish and doesn't respect her, yet she stays with him????? Then when they finally realize how stupid they've been, they're too old, fat and ugly for any guy to want them. That's when they wish they would have stayed with the decent guy who respected them. Women are only hurting themselves when the do this. Unfortunately, for most of them, only time and experience will show them the error of their ways. Sadly, it's usually too late and they end up bitter old crows.


PERHAPS THEY'LL BEGIN TO REALIZE IT SOONER.
 

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justiceseeker said:
I can very much relate to your situation. I also was with a girl who was depressed when I met her. Not only was she ungrateful for all the help I gave her, but she tried to blame me for some of her troubles.


Anytime she was depressed or was having a bad day, I would try to talk to her and tell her how much I loved her. I would buy her medications for her since she couldn't afford it. I would take her to her appointments and encourage her to go to them. One time when she tried to committ suicide, I stayed all night with her in the intensive care unit to make sure she was alright. On the other hand, her parents didn't even come to see her and acted very callous about the situation.


So what ended up happening? She left me and is living with her parents now. Talking about how great they are and never mentioning what I did for her. I swear, women love to be treated like ****. Anytime you show kindness or take their problems seriously, they lose respect for you. It really shows how fvcked modern women's psyche's have become. Belive me, if you're selfish and don't maker her a priority in your life, she'll reward you handsomely for it.


Do you notice on those talk shows or T.V. Judge shows how women end up with these friggen losers that mooch off them and don't pay child support? They come into court crying about what a bad guy he is. How he's selfish and doesn't respect her, yet she stays with him????? Then when they finally realize how stupid they've been, they're too old, fat and ugly for any guy to want them. That's when they wish they would have stayed with the decent guy who respected them. Women are only hurting themselves when the do this. Unfortunately, for most of them, only time and experience will show them the error of their ways. Sadly, it's usually too late and they end up bitter old crows.


PERHAPS THEY'LL BEGIN TO REALIZE IT SOONER.
Think about it, when you first meet a girl that you really want to get with, you never ever shower her with attention or show how you feel.

However, as the relationship continues, and you get more comfortable with eachother, you will tell her how you feel, begin to care, want to help her, etc.

What attracted to her in the beginning was the fact that you didn't care. The fact that you were never her number 1 priority. While a man expects to see and will be more attracted to a girl who shows commitment after some time into the relationship, a girl would much rather see a man stay the way he was when you first met.

If I would of stayed doing my thing, not seen her every day, not went to pick her up whenever she wanted to, etc, we'd probably still be together. But no, I did what you would THINK a woman would like, I became caring, nice, concerned with where she was when I was not around, etc.

The result is a woman taking as much from a man as possible before she is tired or has find a better way to occupy her time. Since my girl and I have broke up, she's been hanging out with her friends, doing nothing special. She even showed up at a party last night that I was at, and she left immediately. She just wants to do her thing, because she completely wore me about because I:

1. Took her seriously.
2. Tried too hard to make her happy.
3. Cared about her so much that I would even yell at her times when I felt she needed to get her sh!t together.

Now for next time I know, keep doing my thing. Go fishing alone. Go to the movies alone. Go to the bar with friends. Don't try to include her in everything or she will have unrealistic expectations from you. She'll be expecting me to tell her where I am all the time, and by telling her I am only appearing less attractive. By treating a girl like sh!t and doing your own thing, never showing care for her, she'll stay with you forever because anytime she gets any kindness out of you she will appreciate it so much more because she had to work for it.

Whatever, I'm still moving on from my ex. I learned my lesson, but now I'm going to remodel my apartment a little bit, go back to school and work on getting my B.A, and keep working where I work while saving a lot more money then I was when I was with her. I learned a great lesson, and I think your post here shows that I'm not the only one who learned it.
 
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