Don't pay for that BILL if she tries to make you pay.

[Trader]

If you absolutely can't get pu$$y for free, or at least no more than a cup of coffee, then go find a street wh0re and slip her a twenty. Then wrap your johnson and get your money's worth. That's not desperation, that's just good sense.

What little credibility you had, has just evaporated into thin air

 

[escaleraroyal]

I just wanna know how much was her bill?

 

[teacha]

I'm with Chromeo, I pay if I asked her. We are NOT equal. For example: most HB8's & up usually wont call the man. Men are the persuers, the hunters, and yes... sometimes the caretakers. The cavemen went out for food and provided for their families. We still evolve from them.

there seems to be a popular fallacy on this board that HB8+ don't really pursue men or initiate any form of contact. The only reason this might seem true on this forum is because most of you guys treat beautiful women differently than the way you treat the average/ugly/fat ones. If you only treated all women the same regardless whether she's beautiful or not, only then would you realise that its a complete false notion.

The cavemen may have taken care & provided for their families but this is a stranger you barely even know.

Chivalry doesn't necessarily make you an AFC.

Chilvary is dead & should stay that way......

all that helping her put her coat on, paying for dinner and what not is retarded to say the least. Now don't get me wrong, sure opening doors once in a while (and i really mean once in whillllllllllleeeeee) for your wife/LTR is somewhat romantic but don't go on doing that to a woman you've just met. The part of chivalry that dictated that men pay for all dates is outdated. It began in a time when women either didn’t work or worked in jobs that paid very little.

I also would like to think that MOST HB8's would rather eat a bologna sandwich & stay home... rather than get all dressed up/made up & go out with a guy she has no sexual interest in, just for a free meal. Most, not all.

you would be suprised...

Dont forget they can make one phone call and get laid in 20 minutes, by any amount of guys. Most of us can't do it quite that easy.

this goes both ways, male or female.

im pretty sure nearly everyone here got girls they could call right now but don't because they know they can do better.

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY: HER MEAL IS MAYBE $30. NOW TO ME, FOR $30, SHE IS GOING TO APPRECIATE ME. MAYBE JUST A WEE BIT OF OBLIGATION (Like when a salesman takes a client golfing). I choose to opt for that, and hold my head up high.

I mean if a guy is going to spend his time here on this forum to learn more about getting laid, why not further a $30 investment, when you have the "client" sitting across from you, ready to "buy"?

investment you say and what's the return? sex? that sounds like a rip-off to me, i mean why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

this is the major problem with most guys on this forum, they think if a woman has sex with him that she's doing him a favor. If you feel like you have to make some kind of monetary investment in a woman to get laid then it means you are doing something seriously wrong. For $30 she's not going TO APPRECIATE YOU, SHE IS GONNA APPRECIATE YOUR MONEY.

But IMPORTANT note: I agree with Chromeo's "d" sentence: If shes a digger, I will weed her a$$ out but quick!

real gold-diggers are so cunning with their manipulative tactics, they can bleed you dry & by the time you know about it, it will be too late.

 

[Galactus]

What little credibility you had, has just evaporated into thin air

Right. Better tell that to the guys who made the DJ Bible. They accidentally put my advice in there instead of yours.

Next!

 

[maqnetik]

she was going to have sex with you anyway

 

[amoka]

she was going to have sex with you anyway

True. I sensed this long ago... so really no need to spend on her. She probably would have declined if I had paid the meal.

 

[3countriesPlan]

Ha something similar like that happened to me, we went to the market with the understanding she was paying, we pick out some sushi and wine, then go to the checker, she just looks at me the checker looks at me, I said "pay", she said "arent you going to pay?"

Everyone was looking at me, and I calmly said, "NO." so she paid and was pretty pissed, took the food and walked off, I calmly walked over to a table with a soft drink and sat down. 30 seconds later shes back and we're eating, shes annoyed.. one date later I fvcked the sh1t out of her. Guys ZERO DOLLAR MACKIN, thats how you play the game! haha

 

[maqnetik]

if moneys even discussed thats a problem

 

[Julian]

Wherever I take a girl I offer to pay but for some reason I seem to get the females that like to say "I got it" while reaching in their purse. Im like alright cool.

Its some kind of reverse on the game, maybe its that they want to prove themselves worthy in some regard to show they are independant and have money or maybe also the fact that I dont worry about money plays a role with me having the mindset of "hey ill pay no problem" actually sets off something in this females brains that makes them want to pay for me instead.

That doesnt mean Im running around tricking and paying for girls an ****. **** that. I just go for girls who can take care of themselves and like to display that towards their potential suitors.

Regardless its all good with me.

Also im not taking some chicks I just met to an expensive restaurant, or any restaurant for that matter.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Same thing happened to me awhile back. Hot little Peruvian chick (said she used to waitress at a strip club). Met her at my second job and didn't know at the time till we went out. Total stripper mentality (even though she just 'waitressed') Took her out twice only for drinks and B.Sing. She didn't even ATTEMPT to even fake like she was going to pay. All the while talking about high end NYC B.S. Bill wasn't much. Second time was the last I decided to waste on her.

I don't mind paying if I invite a girl out and she at least offers to pay even if it's a fake reach for the bag. But I'm not going to constantly pay. To hell with that. It's the age of equal sexes and "independant women" No?