Don't EVER buy a woman a drink (when youre single)

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I got a girl's number over the weekend and texted her my number. Last night she texted me out of the blue and my responses were light and simple. She was telling me how embarrassed she was cause she can "hardly remember the night". I played it off whatever cause i knew she remembered me and shes just looking for a response. She was basically saying all the wrong things to TEST me and I responded with "Is this your version of getting to know someone?". She of course kept trying to defend herself..blah blah. I gave her an opportunity to redeem herself and to meet me for a drink, she agreed but kept playing coy and the "I don't do ____". Finally I told her that i am out of suggestions and it sounds like you're not ready to hang out.

Today, she calls me and asks me to join her and her friends for a birthday drink. I told her that i'll see what I got going on and let her know. She then started to explain she has "boy issues" and that's why she was acting "different" when I asked her out. I find out she has a BOYFRIEND. Now most guys would say see yea and leave but I felt this would be a great opportunity to practice. Told her I had to go and got off the phone.

Later that night I hit her up to see where her and her girlfriends were at and I met up with them. These girls were hott and I could easily tell that they usually get their way with boys (not men). Some random guy picked up their tab like he is some baller, tried to get their number and got rejected. As the three girls and I walked out, one of them mentions that she "feels bad for the guy..." and I turned around and asked her "Why? cause he was using drinks to manipulate you?". It blew their mind. We end up at a new bar, the girls are drunk and the hottness is wearing off. One of them is a complete over-thinker, the other one is super drunk and the birthday chick sounds and act like she is from Beverly Hills. We finish our drinks and I ask the waitress to separate the check. The look on the girl's faces were priceless but I stood ground cause I'm not like every other guy who thinks they have to buy a woman a drink to show off. No thanks, i'm working on NOT being a validation seeker.

We end up leaving and I noticed the girl who has a boyfriend starting to grab my hand and I could tell the level of attractiveness is climbing for her but I made sure I kept my feet on the ground. She wanted to snapchat and was telling me how she wants to get married soon.. ehh.. :whistle: no thanks. Dropped them off at their car and I was told I was a "cool guy" and "really nice", "glad we met"...etc. my ego hated it BUT i reminded myself that I am going to single myself away from the typical guy trying to win them over and I was relaxed throughout the whole time. Crack some jokes, rolled my eyes when they said something ridiculous..etc.

Good call?
 

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I haven't bought a girl a drink in 7 years. If I was out on a date sure i'll buy the first round but shes buying the next round.

I know too many women who will go to the bar just to get free drinks, it's pathetic. Some women will ask me "Aren't you going to buy me a drink?" and I end up getting them a glass of water.
 

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I dont really understand why you went out with these chicks, to practice you say?

well, IF YOU HAD FUN, ok.
 

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So basically you went out with a group of hot girls, observed and drank a little, and made no moves? When Being around a group of hot girls other women will easily notice and show more signs of interest. At least you learned to never buy a girl a drink tho...
 

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I started to become turned off by their lack of social skills. I think one them i should of got her number but i didnt see her display much interest. I will keep this all in mind next time.
 

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yannick43 said:
Talk about a troll factory. You guys all in the same bed with your laptops that mommy bough you in your a$$es

what? youre such a braindead weirdo, can you please not post?

OP good lesson and yea keep it mind. just take one home next time lack of social skills or not.
 

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...good for you. Too many people here will roast you because you didn't try to get in somebody's pants. You did well for a few simple reasons:

1) you saw past the bull**** and didn't compromise.
2) you were impressive...even if you don't see any of them again.
3) you didn't let sex or women cloud your mind.

...sex isn't everything in life, and being capable of sorting through the crap that dating and nightlife presents is one of the more valuable tools to posses as a guy. Continue learning through experience and work on making yourself into the type of person that you want to become. At that point, you'll realize that anybody anywhere is open game to approach and work your way into a dating situation.

It's all just a numbers game with some luck and knowledge mixed in...part of the fun is experiencing such events as what you wrote about. Again...you passed that one with flying colors.

But a quick story about girls and drinks...last winter I had a blonde pull me away from my buddies at a live music bar, flirt likeh hell with me for about two minutes, then immediately drag me to the side bar to her friends who ordered a bunch of drinks. I grabbed one of the drinks, said thanks, walked away, and more or less laughed my ass off as they all started fighting over who was going to pay for everything.

...don't fall for bull**** and nightlife tricks. An inexperienced guy would have paid for everything and enjoyed the 5 minutes of attention that they would have gave him for doing so, more or less thinking that maybe he'll be lucky enough to go home with one of them if he pays for their drinks. Me, I went back to the dance floor and met another girl to hang out with, haha.
 

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62Telecaster said:
...good for you. Too many people here will roast you because you didn't try to get in somebody's pants. You did well for a few simple reasons:

1) you saw past the bull**** and didn't compromise.
2) you were impressive...even if you don't see any of them again.
3) you didn't let sex or women cloud your mind.

...sex isn't everything in life, and being capable of sorting through the crap that dating and nightlife presents is one of the more valuable tools to posses as a guy. Continue learning through experience and work on making yourself into the type of person that you want to become. At that point, you'll realize that anybody anywhere is open game to approach and work your way into a dating situation.

It's all just a numbers game with some luck and knowledge mixed in...part of the fun is experiencing such events as what you wrote about. Again...you passed that one with flying colors.

But a quick story about girls and drinks...last winter I had a blonde pull me away from my buddies at a live music bar, flirt likeh hell with me for about two minutes, then immediately drag me to the side bar to her friends who ordered a bunch of drinks. I grabbed one of the drinks, said thanks, walked away, and more or less laughed my ass off as they all started fighting over who was going to pay for everything.

...don't fall for bull**** and nightlife tricks. An inexperienced guy would have paid for everything and enjoyed the 5 minutes of attention that they would have gave him for doing so, more or less thinking that maybe he'll be lucky enough to go home with one of them if he pays for their drinks. Me, I went back to the dance floor and met another girl to hang out with, haha.
Absolutely. They are use to men trying to sleep with them in the beginning but I control the situation and who I want to sleep with. I will probably see them again, reach out in 7-10 days but I know the next time I see them they will see me as high value. I am working on patience which is attached to neediness, that is why I call it "practice".
 

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BrainDamage92 said:
Buying a girl a drink - cool

buying 3 girls drinks - no thanks :D
...It's so stupid to buy a person's time. I like the example of the idiot who picked up the girls' tab, I mean what in the hell was he expecting to get out of that? "Oh thank you strange guy, all of us will hop in your car and go home with you now" :crackup:

The sad thing is that I've watched similar things happen; some guys are just delusional to the point of being pathetic.
 

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62Telecaster said:
...It's so stupid to buy a person's time. I like the example of the idiot who picked up the girls' tab, I mean what in the hell was he expecting to get out of that? "Oh thank you strange guy, all of us will hop in your car and go home with you now" :crackup:

The sad thing is that I've watched similar things happen; some guys are just delusional to the point of being pathetic.

Well this is BS ye, but why not, if you go on a date with a girl, for example you pay the drinks, then she can pay the cinema ticket or smth.

I always try to teach my friends to not reach for coins like retards - this time I pay, next time you pay.

But going up to some random girls and offering them to pay for drinks - nope nope nope nope
 

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I would have done the same thing Brah, There's no way I'm paying for a whole table's drinks. I was making 80K a few years ago and learned real quick that people will expect that of you if you do it one time in the wrong situation. I don't care if it's a table of porn stars and i'm the guy about to ****'m.

As for the chick with the BF, she must not like him too much. It could be she hops from man to man, especially if she's in her 20's. Have your fun and keep the hell away from marriage and kids. Her pulling on your hand was a clear indicator she wanted you closer and was inviting her into your personal space. I would love to get signs like that all the time. though sometimes it's better not to go too far, if her friends are hot then you just got into a group that can get you massive social proof. Although if she just wanted a fling it's probably too late.
 

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TheMagician said:
I would have done the same thing Brah, There's no way I'm paying for a whole table's drinks. I was making 80K a few years ago and learned real quick that people will expect that of you if you do it one time in the wrong situation. I don't care if it's a table of porn stars and i'm the guy about to ****'m.

As for the chick with the BF, she must not like him too much. It could be she hops from man to man, especially if she's in her 20's. Have your fun and keep the hell away from marriage and kids. Her pulling on your hand was a clear indicator she wanted you closer and was inviting her into your personal space. I would love to get signs like that all the time. though sometimes it's better not to go too far, if her friends are hot then you just got into a group that can get you massive social proof. Although if she just wanted a fling it's probably too late.
I agree.

She's not relationship material my friend. When a woman tells me she wants to get married soon and have no idea what a marriage really is then that shows multiple red flags. Sorry, but i'll claim you when you're independent and not dependent on other men just to be happy.
 

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Drummer93 said:
Some random guy picked up their tab like he is some baller, tried to get their number and got rejected. As the three girls and I walked out, one of them mentions that she "feels bad for the guy..." and I turned around and asked her "Why? cause he was using drinks to manipulate you?". It blew their mind.
woah bruh, who's side are you on? kinda sounds like you tried to talk a good girl out of having a conscience...
 

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devilkingx2 said:
woah bruh, who's side are you on? kinda sounds like you tried to talk a good girl out of having a conscience...
No. Any guy that uses drinks to manipulate women are weak and needy for validation. She felt bad for the guy in a way that he was a little boy that needed to suckle some milk.
 

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Women use men to buy them drinks. Its been going on for a long time. If you are buying drinks for women to try and pick them up and get laid you are desperate and pathetic deserving to lose all your beta bucks.
 

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If you're buying girls drink, then you've already lost the game. They should be doing you favors because you're the prize that's meant to be caught.

Brave move for you to tell the waitress to separate the check. +1
 
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