Don't be so quick to NEXT (NOT FOR NEWBIES)

[XANEUS]

NOTE: Absolute Newbies Disregard this post!

Yes. You should always have other girls to fall back on and you should never NEED a particular girl.

Yes. You should always be willing to walk away.

No. You should not walk away at a sh!t test. If a girl is busting you/testing you, it means she likes you. You just haven't gotten her to like you ENOUGH yet. But you're on the right track.

If a girl simply doesn't talk to you, or doesn't acknowledge you... that's when it's lost. Not before.

As long as you are getting an emotional response you are IN! Most hot girls will sh!t test you! They have to. Do you have any idea how many guys hit on them?!

If nothing else. Dealing with female sh!t is incredible practice.

DON'T NEXT AS AN EXCUSE FOR GIVING UP!

 

[drZaius09]

Giving up is easier.

 

[crackhead]

When you refer to testing, specifically what kind of testing do you mean exactly? There's no way girls that are interested will blow you off or be flaky over and over if they are really interested in you.

I was in a situation recently where this girl was mad flaky. She didn't completely cut off all contact or stop acknowledging me, but we talked back and forth for about a month about going out on our second date and it never even happened! Talk about mixed signals!

One time on the phone she was like 'let's definitely go out this week'

one on hand, the 'definitely' would indicate that she's serious, but the vagueness of the 'this week' vs. a specific date is flaky. There were atleast 4 times where she broke the date, last minute or otherwise. I haven't heard from her or tried contacting her in almost 2 weeks.

And get this: another girl I went to lunch with twice didn't return my call on the 4th of july when we talked about meeting up. I didn't contact her for a while and felt the ball was in her court. Atleast 3 weeks or even a month later I decided to send her an email out of the blue. I was all positive sounding rather then being like 'haven't heard from you in a while' or whatever. She replies back saying great to hear from you, I’d love to get together and Let me know what you had in mind, I’m totally open to anything! I was thinking are you kidding me?

So the night we were supposed to go out she calls to break the date at the absolute last minute because she was 'tired' and says let's talk later in the week or something. So I didn't attempt to contact her, and that was the last I've heard from her.

I've read the article about the confident persistence, but I don't see how these aren't 2 perfect examples of NEXT. And I don't think these 2 girls were giving me 'tests' either..

Like what, "how does he react to being blown off repeatedly" ??

there is definitely a lot of overlap between nexting and giving up

 

[Pecker]

I agree with xaneus. It's a really good thing when a girl gets testy, although it's counterintuitive. I've dealt with this recently, and when she was play-insulting me, givin me isht, I sorta chuckled and said "you know, i stay on the phone for interesting conversation, not to be insulted," and she said "oh you'll stay on. we both know you love me."

I just said "uh, no," and hung up on her. She went online looking for me and acted very upset but it was clear I passed her little test. I'll post more on this if anything unfolds...

 

[crackhead]

bump

(spawned by the large amount of posts by n.hill)

 

[Ronin I]

Crackface -

your two stories are just another reminder of why it is important to up the ante physically as soon as possible with a woman.

These girls that you speak of - may in fact be interested in you - but until they invest in you EMOTIONALLY - they will be flaky.

Of course we all know that all women are flaky - but once they form an emotional bond, connection, whatever, the flakiness dramatically decreases.

The best way to get a woman to bond to you is to fvck her brains out. Period. Until you cross that bridge - you will be stuck in the land of mixed signals.

 

[crackhead]

trudat

 

[Pecker]

"The best way to get a woman to bond to you is to fvck her brains out. Period."

This is like telling someone with a monthlong constipation that the solution to his problem is to take a dump.

 

[XANEUS]

Hey Crackhead... try talking about something other than going out on a date with her. She's not comfortable enough for that if she's flaky. When she feels comfortable, then she won't flake. If you keep pressing, she'll get more and more uncomfortable.

Lately, when I get a # I usually don't even ask for date until the second phone call unless she is showing massive interest. An extra 10 minute phone call won't kill you.

 

[Don Rageta]

Newbies should really not listen completey to Xaneus. Although i do agree with much of what you have said, remember that a common problem newbies have is learning to next a girl. your advice is counter-active to that. they often have oneitits and hearing what you said they may line themselves up for more wear and tear from flacky chicks.

 

[comote]

This is a useless piece of advice. I agree with you 100% but it is useless. The people who are ready to hear it have already figured it out for themselves and many people who are not ready to hear it think they are.

 

[squirrels]

The point is that you do NOT waste your time with people who do not respect you. If she expects gifts or supplication to win your affection, if she breaks dates, does not "give it up" after a few dates/getting to trust you, treats you like a boy-toy or a girlfriend, she is not respecting your presence and desires as a man.

 

[princelydeeds]

I wrote something similar last week but when I went to post my computer flaked out and it never made it to the forum.

You are right in saying this isnt for AFC's/newbies. It takes tons of practice reading women to understand if shes saying I have no interest in you, or if shes saying I want to be chased. I'm a hunter so I don't mind the chase but only if i feel like I can eventually catch my prey.

Two weeks ago, I started banging this chick that played me for well over a month. She flaked a few times and she would return my calls several days later. We run in the same circles so I would see her out occasionally. I was always ****y and funny with her. Her vibe was always I am very attracted to you but Im being cautious. I acted like I didnt care about what happened between us. I was always seen with a bunch of other hotties so she knew I wasn't waiting on her. A few weeks passed and nothing changed so i kept calling her maybe once a week. The conversation was always dynamic when we did speak she woudl laugh the whole time or we would be totally vibing.

Two weeks ago she called me on friday night and asked where I was. I was at this club and she asked if she could come join me. When she got there the dancing was close and the grinding turned into kissing. Next she asked me to come home with her. I will leave the rest of the story to your imagination.

Every time I bang her, I make her apologise for flaking and not returning my phone calls. "OH OH OH, Im sorry princelydeeds, OOOOHHH OHHHH, Iwill never, OHHH AAAHHH, do that, OHH OHHH, again. Then I make her cook for me as punishment

The lesson is simple a DJ must learn how to read women. Women always have all kinds of drama going on in their lives. So you never know why shes saying no. This chick, separated from her husband in January so I know she is being cautious. She still has issues with the guy, I don't care, but I knew my opportunity was there if I was patient. Sometimes no means "not right now." She told me she thinks im somewhat of a player but her attraction and curiosity got the better of her.

Another lesson, when you do get the opportunity to screw please BANG HER BRAINS OUT!!!! Nothing keeps a woman coming back like great sex. If you do get in her pants and you bust a 1 minute nut or you have no technique to your stroke, you probably will not get a second chance. As a man, you get the upper hand when you can last and serve the d!ck like a pro.

 

[Ronin I]

Originally posted by princelydeeds


Women always have all kinds of drama going on in their lives. So you never know why shes saying no. Sometimes no means "not right now."

Excellent point.

You honestly don't ever know why she's saying no unless she does come right out and say, "I'm not interested" or "I'm just not attracted to you" or something along those lines. (which rarely ever happens).

Other than that, who the hell knows what's going through their minds?

I guess the point is to not stress it - continue pursuing others (of course) and NEVER, EVER internalize the "rejection" (flakiness, mixed signals, etc) - because it many cases it may have nothing to do with you - it could just be a by-product of some drama coming from some other source.

Thanks p-deeds!

 

[bugsquish]

The lesson is simple a DJ must learn how to read women.

This really is a bit of an anti-newbie thread! You don't need to read women. That doesn't work remember? Just remember that she is one of many. Don't give a ****. If she calls you be c/f. BE SEXY. If she likes you she will call you even if she's been flaky. If she doesn't then lack of action speaks volumes. It's all about finding the balance between supplicating and quitting altogether. Don't lose your DJ head.

Crackhead: another girl I went to lunch with twice didn't return my call on the 4th of july when we talked about meeting up. I didn't contact her for a while and felt the ball was in her court. Atleast 3 weeks or even a month later I decided to send her an email out of the blue.

LOW IL, she didn't call. 3 Weeks? NEXT!

Princelydeeds: She flaked a few times and she would return my calls several days later. .

HIGH IL, she called. So she flaked, but you left her to think about what she might be missing, so she caved and returned ur calls.

If you to blow her away with your skills in the early stages you really have it made. The point I'm making is: if she flakes the ball really is in her court. Don't quit the game, but don't make the next move if it's HER move.

 

[crackhead]

Originally posted by princelydeeds
Another lesson, when you do get the opportunity to screw please BANG HER BRAINS OUT!!!! Nothing keeps a woman coming back like great sex. If you do get in her pants and you bust a 1 minute nut or you have no technique to your stroke, you probably will not get a second chance. As a man, you get the upper hand when you can last and serve the d!ck like a pro.

This is obviously a good point, but what if your experience level is low and your infamous as a 2 pump chump? What the hell do you do then? Masturbate and stop right before your about to ***? Is that it? I want nothing more than to make a girl squeal and want to come back for more, but my lack of experience leads to a lack of confidence. Quite the catch 22.

(not intending to hijack the post into other directions)

 

[princelydeeds]

Originally posted by crackhead
This is obviously a good point, but what if your experience level is low and your infamous as a 2 pump chump? What the hell do you do then? Masturbate and stop right before your about to ***? Is that it? I want nothing more than to make a girl squeal and want to come back for more, but my lack of experience leads to a lack of confidence. Quite the catch 22.

(not intending to hijack the post into other directions)

My advice would be to practice on ugly and fat chicks. Stop being picky and get used to the idea of having sex. Im speaking at 29, I lost my virginity at 14 so ive been bonin for several years. Unfortunately, I was a two minute man throughout my teens. It took a lot of practice but now I can usually go until Im ready to bust a nut. But every now and again you run into a chick, whose stuff is so good, you are soo horny/excited or her skills are just off the chain and I lose d!ck control. If I meet a women whose stuff is that good then she is a true winner, a definite keeper.

I was boning this chick who was 6 mos pregnant back in February. Good lord, the coochie was so good she kept me busting in like 5-10 minutes. I gave her a high five and said "you go girl, you got some serious skills!" She had this move where she would get on top, turn facing the opposite direction and grab my ankles while workin up and down. She was so good, and the pvssy was so wet and tight I couldnt control myself. I congratulated her and told her she was better than me but she better understand I was gonna come back and put it on her the next time.

Sometimes, you just have to admit to the girl her stuff is good. Hell, if I bust quickly I will tell the girl its her fault the coochie shouldn't have been so good. Can I help it if her stuff is good? She should take it as a compliment. I mean it happens to the best of us. Just don't make a habit of busting too quickly.

Masturbating is cool but honestly, you still just need to practice at sex. Sex is like anything else the more you do it the better you get.

 

[Legend]

I find the faster i next girls the faster i feel normal again. When a girl starts giving me shyt and starts to bother me i just do the cold walkaway. Yeah this sucks because i dont get laid as often as i would like but hell maybe i should start putting my pride on the shelf sometimes.

 

[es_mer8]

NEXTing is just a way to protect yourself from failure. A lot of times girls aren't used to DJing because thanks to the feminized society, most men that approach them offer them everything plus more. When a real man enters, she likes him but does not know how to really act around him. So she accepts a date and flakes out, probably out of fear that he may not show up ("a man that confident and attractive should not be with a normal girl like me") The man nexts her.

I believe that nexting a girl is a good idea if there is obvious signs of low IL. If a girl flakes out, set up a date. If she flakes again, ditch her. I can see maybe one flake out and the rest of the meetings are all good but DJs need not be with flakes. They should be with women who are aware of their sexuality and doesn't flake out.

 

[XANEUS]

Invite her to somewhere you were going anyway... if she comes great. If she flakes, what have you lost?

Again though... if she shows interest but flakes, she might not be comfortable YET... if she shows disinterest and flakes, that's when you NEXT.