Doing push-ups on fist

[ultrashogun]

The power of knucklestrikes is concentrated, therefore having a smaller area of effect.

Isnt that exactly what makes them more powerfull?

Pressure = Power / Area that means the more surface you strike the less pressure we generate

Bruce Lee made extensive use of palmstrikes

Oh yeah, if bruce lee sayas **** its GOTTA be right. Who ever made BL to THE authority on martial arts? There are different typs of fighter and he was far from being the best.

 

[De La Soul]

Originally posted by Demon
What's my cause, oh mighty one? To prove to some dumb German that palmstrikes have more power than knucklestrikes? I don't need to prove that.

The power of knucklestrikes is concentrated, therefore having a smaller area of effect. Not to mention that the average fighter is inaccurate with his punches.

Palmstrikes are a whole lot more successful, have a wider area of effect, and are much more powerful. Of course, if you're just some joe with no strength, then it won't do you any good. Bruce Lee made extensive use of palmstrikes ultimately because he believed them to be more effective than knucklestrikes.

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And De La Soul... why do you come back to do your job as a moderator every ONCE IN AWHILE?

Demon, I seem to remember you saying a while ago that sarcasm was a sign of stupidity, or something to that effect... what's hyprocrisy a sign of?

Anyway, we've noticed that you've been using a lot of insults in your posts lately. It seems to be a common pattern that when someone posts an idea that you disagree with, you insult them Or when someone debates a point with you, you insult them. It shouldn't work that way.

Oh, and the Health and Fitess Forum doesn't require much housekeeping. It's relatively simple to maintain, and I try not to move posts that could possibly be kept in here. As you'll notice if you look over the posts in here, most of the topics actually do belong here... but if you insist on moderating for the sake of moderating, maybe I'll merge some threads or something.

 

[Demon]

ultrashogun
If power is more concentrated on a smaller area, the less effective the power is. Only if that power is directed at a specific spot like the temple will that power achieve success.

If power is more concentrated on a wider area, the more effective the power is. If the power misses its target or its target has a wider area of armored effect will blunt power be ineffective.

You can slice a man's arm off with a sword or chop his head off with a guillotine, but you can beat the hell out of someone with a mace, club, or a 4x4.

I was using Bruce Lee as an example. I train under Fabio Santos in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

De La Soul
That was a serious question. Where do you go when you're not moderating? By the way, this thread is seriously off-topic.

 

[ultrashogun]

I dont care who you train under, We actually practise striking so we can make clean hit on people vital points and it doesnt matter where you hit, the smaller the surface the better the strike

 

[De La Soul]

De La Soul
That was a serious question. Where do you go when you're not moderating? By the way, this thread is seriously off-topic. [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh ok... forgive me for thinking that...

"And De La Soul... why do you come back to do your job as a moderator every ONCE IN AWHILE? "

... was not a serious question. LOL.

When I'm not moderating I'm....

- at university
- at a party/get-together
- listening to music
- buying music
- working out
- clubbing
- reading
- watching TV
- working
- playing sport
- at a coffee shop
- at a movie
- at a concert
- spending time with/fvcking a certain great girl who I've been going out with for a while now (possible LTR, althogh I'm getting the PU itch)
- or posting at DJ Discussion/DJ Tips/Anything Else/Moderator's Forum

Those are the best things that spring to mind at the moment. I hope that answers your question...

- De La Soul

EDIT: Or at my local pub!

 

[Demon]

Originally posted by ultrashogun
I dont care who you train under, We actually practise striking so we can make clean hit on people vital points and it doesnt matter where you hit, the smaller the surface the better the strike

You just said "vital points" but then you say it doesn't "matter where you hit." You just voided your own words.

A laser can cut through steel because it concentrates a considerable amount of energy in a tiny area. A crane can knock down buildings with a metal ball because its power is concentrated over a wide area.

 

[Deathfyre]

Either a punch or a palmstrike has it's uses. A punch (connecting preferably with the first two knuckles) distributes the force over a smaller area, creating much higher pressures. If you have time/are able to aim well, a punch will be much more effective, because you can hit a vital area with high pressure. A palmstrike is more usefull if you don't have time or are not able to aim properly, as dealing high pressure to someone's forehead (as an example) is not nearly as effective as hitting randomly with the palm of your hand. (ok, not completely randomly, but you get the point)

 

[Fragem]

Trying doing Fingertip pushups too. The first time I did it at 5 fingertip pushups my Fingers were begging for mercy, now I can get up to 15

 

[digitalrat]

Originally posted by ultrashogun
Isnt that exactly what makes them more powerfull?

Pressure = Power / Area that means the more surface you strike the less pressure we generate





Oh yeah, if bruce lee sayas **** its GOTTA be right. Who ever made BL to THE authority on martial arts? There are different typs of fighter and he was far from being the best.

Now, that is funny. If you can't say Bruce Lee is ONE of the authorities of martial arts. Whoever doesn't agree with you isn't experienced enough.

 

[ultrashogun]

Now, that is funny. If you can't say Bruce Lee is ONE of the authorities of martial arts. Whoever doesn't agree with you isn't experienced enough.

What the **** are are you talking about?Yeah I dont think Bruce Lee should be the authority on these things simplie because be was just a movie star, hes never won in any tournament or anything.

Whoever doesn't agree with you isn't experienced enough

Whats that have to do with experience? I actually posted the physikal formula.

 

[digitalrat]

Originally posted by ultrashogun
What the **** are are you talking about?Yeah I dont think Bruce Lee should be the authority on these things simplie because be was just a movie star, hes never won in any tournament or anything.

That's also funny. Bruce Lee is JUST a movie star. He just created his own martial art named Jeet Kune Do.

1953 (Age 13): Hong Kong - After being beaten up by a street gang, Bruce begins to take Kung-Fu lessons, despite local Hong Kong laws, outlawing streetfights. This is the first, and the last time Bruce looses a fight. He begins to train under Sifu Yip Man, a master of the Wing Chun system of Kung-Fu.

1958 (Age 18): Hong Kong - Bruce wins the Crown Colony Cha-Cha Championship.

1958 (Age 18): ??? - Bruce enters the 1958 Boxing Championships and defeats the reigning three year champion, Gary Elms.

1963 - Fall (Age 23): Seattle - Bruce moves his Jun Fan Kung-Fu Institute into a building (4750 University Way) near the university campus. He teaches any person of any race. (most Asian Martial Arts schools would only teach people of their own race)

At Garfield High School, Bruce demonstrates the "One-Inch Punch". This is the punch he would later make famous at the 64' Long Beach Internationals and which was developed by him and James DeMile in Seattle. Bruce would hold his arm straight out, and with a shrug of his shoulder, knock a man straight across the ground.

1965 (Age 24): Oakland - Several months after he begins teaching, he is challenged by, Wong Jack Man, a leading Kung-Fu practitioner in the Chinatown Community. They agree: If Bruce looses, he will, either close his school, or stop teaching Caucasians; and if Jack looses, he will stop teaching. Jack Man Wong does not belie Bruce would actually fight, and tries to delay the match. Bruce becomes angered and insists that they not wait. Wong then tries to put limitations on techniques. Bruce refuses "rules"and the two go no holds barred. Bruce begins to pound his opponent in only a couple of seconds. As Bruce is winning, Wong attemps to flee, but is caught by Bruce. Bruce begins to beat him on the ground. Students of the other teacher attempted to step in and help their teacher, James Lee, Bruce's good friend prevent this. Later he is bothered on why the fight took so long and begins to re-evaluate his style. He is determined that he is not in his top physical condiiton. Thus, the early concepts of Jeet Kune Do (JKD), "The art of the intercepting fist" is created. JKD is an art including techniques of all types of fighting. (i.e. American Boxing, Thai Kick Boxing, Japanese Karate, etc.) His style is no style.

 

[assasin]

The reson an open strike, such as a palm strike is more effective in most combat situations is that the radius of the strike is more dispersed

Punch down into water and then slap down into the water and notice the difference in the displacement patterns.

Accurate punches break bones. Open handed strikes temporarily incapacitate limbs.

 

[Tareef]

Palm strikes are definately useful, however Bruce Lee was an advocate for the formless form, there for it is suggested that he would also be an advocate for punches. In other words he believed in what ever met the means.

Train all around is my motto.

 

[iceman666]

The reason you do knuckle pushups are two fold, one is for wrist strengthening, which helps in all other areas of lifting, the other is the range of motion required because of the extended effective length of your arm.