narcissist
Master Don Juan
Whats up guys? Thought I would join this discussion.
So OP. I would follow exactly what HarryWilmington has stated. That seems like a decent plan.
Because you have made the mistakes already you mid as well go out have a good time and contact her 3-4 days later for a SOLO date. If she does not accept to this solo date than its a LOST CAUSE. And in that case move on
KISS CLOSE.
But you know what. I want to add something.
Go for a kiss, when her friend isn't present. Try and isolate and kiss her, but do so with fluidity, don't make it obvious and awkward so the friend sees.
WHY? because honestly dude, you need to gauge her interest. Just fvcking do it. What is the worst that can happen? she doesn't reciprocate? well then at least you don't have to waste your time with a low interest girl.
The LONGER you wait the more her interest is going to DROP. Go for it. Man up. You live once, so seize the opportunity. You have NOTHING to lose. Worst comes to worst you have at least learned a lot from this. And you can go back out find a new girl and try again.
How to act on the "date" (not really a date bc her friend is present)
****y/funny
Try and be a little ****y and funny but don't over do it or it will have the opposite effect. Always occupy that ****y smirk and stare her in the eyes while do this. If she is interested she will reciprocate and touch you.
Kino
At the VERY LEAST, reciprocate her physicality. when she touches you, push the boundaries a bit and touch her back. My rule of thumb is this - Always touch her a little more then she touches you. JUST A LITTLE MORE. Not fvcking groping her. lol.
Dude - jam this into your head - when a girl touches you its a green light.
BUT if you don't touch back? she will lose interest. Unless you are SUPER experienced where you can use disdain to keep attraction up. But you are clearly not at that level. So. Touch her back dummy!!! lol
Be a paragon of fun/excitement
Dude be positive and happy and try and engage them in interesting conversations. DO NOT over think things and become awkward. Have this mind state - "if she doesnt like me oh well, I will still have fun because THIS IS MY LIFE"
Smile. A girl loves a guy who exudes happiness and confidence.
No girl likes a guy who is insecure and unsure of himself to the point where he is over thinking things so much that he cant even be in the moment and have fun.
At the end of the day they are human beings, not fvcking deities. Just have fun man and enjoy your time. She doesnt like you? so what. There are literally billions of girls out there.
Start building your inner game
Dont put so much effort into this girl. You need to start putting more effort into yourself and your character in order to build your inner game and grow a concrete actualized confidence. With this inner confidence, problems like "does this girl like me?" wont occur. Building inner game is THE MOST important thing you should be focused on.
Some ways that you can build your inner confidence (there are a lot of other ways)
Read relentlessly
Dude read The dj bible. Read The 48 laws of power. Read The book of pook. Read The power of habits.
Anything man. But I would start with those. This will open your mind to the mistakes you are making.
Getting advice here is good. But its for a "specific" problem. There are MANY different problems you are going to face in your journey. The DJ bible covers all of them.
Spin plates
Go out and cold approach girls. AND LOTS OF THEM. You need experience with different women. You need to see how women work. How do you do that? You surround yourself with women and you study them up close in person. Date lots of them. Sleep with only the ones that YOU deem worthy. In my humble opinion, gaming many women is more conducive to learning about women in general than gaming one woman.
You also need to be rejected. ALOT. You need to realize that some girls just have low interest and will never like you. This is an important thing. Why? because you learn to not waste your time climbing that uphill battle feigning for her interest. You just go out and get another bish with HIGHER INTEREST.
Work out
I hope to god that you are working out and staying healthy. If not, go to bodybuilding.com find a 12 week workout plan and do it. Follow it to a tee.
Eat the proper amount of macros and calories, eat healthy, never miss a day at the gym, drink water, supplement when necessary.
This is fundamental to building confidence. You will start to feel AMAZING, and become ALOT less timid.
(*most important*) Strive for perpetual betterment - be in a constant state of learning
Never stagnate. Always push yourself to become better and better as an overall person EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Everyday learn new things and confront new frontiers. Expand your boundaries. Never be afraid to face your fears and put yourself in uncomfortable situations. It will make you a better person.
If you do this, 1 year down the road you will be more built, more confident, be able to pick up girls YOU want, be more positive and overall be more happy. This will spill over into getting women. Trust me. But you don't do it for women but for yourself and your happiness.
Meditate
Dude one thing that I will promote to anyone is meditating. When you meditate you truly gain this notion of non-affectivity and non-attachment. You grow this zen-like calmness, and stop being affected by infinitesimal things. You learn to become outcome independent with these in your arsenal. Which I can tell is a big problem that you are dealing with right now. You are a little to outcome dependent. Worrying too much about the consequences of your actions. Enter action with boldness my friend.
Meditation works wonders. You start understanding that you actions dont really matter so you mid as well enter with boldness. Do what you want and do it will confidence.
Learn to not worry about peoples reactions. That will truly occupy your mind and trap you in the judgemental vortex so many people fin themselves in, where you constantly analyze people's judgments of you. Fvck that. Only judge yourself.
Change yourself and the world around you will change.
Eradicate bad habits while implementing good habits
Dude this one is super important to becoming the man you want to be. But you must have an unbelievable will power to implement this. If you can progressively eradicate all of your bad habits and replace them will good habits then there will be no stopping you. You will become successful.
Bad habits could be anything from "not taking action" "afraid of facing your fears" "fapping too much" "eating sh1tty food" "having a dirty place" "not escalating with women" etc. etc.
Eradicate habits like these and replace them with habits such as
"escalate with women confidently" "face my fears relentlessly" "drink only water" "document my daily progress"
Conclusion
Anyways I know I went off topic with the inner game rant, but I think it is EXTREMELY important that new members understand that INNER GAME is the most important facet to getting WOMEN to like you.
So yes I can give you advice on how to get this ONE chick interested in you OR I can give you some tips on how to get ALOT of women to like you.
Believe me. Start you journey today. Become the best mother fvckin man you can. Live in perpetual perfectionism.
Inner game is the MOST important thing you will ever learn.
So OP. I would follow exactly what HarryWilmington has stated. That seems like a decent plan.
Because you have made the mistakes already you mid as well go out have a good time and contact her 3-4 days later for a SOLO date. If she does not accept to this solo date than its a LOST CAUSE. And in that case move on
KISS CLOSE.
But you know what. I want to add something.
Go for a kiss, when her friend isn't present. Try and isolate and kiss her, but do so with fluidity, don't make it obvious and awkward so the friend sees.
WHY? because honestly dude, you need to gauge her interest. Just fvcking do it. What is the worst that can happen? she doesn't reciprocate? well then at least you don't have to waste your time with a low interest girl.
The LONGER you wait the more her interest is going to DROP. Go for it. Man up. You live once, so seize the opportunity. You have NOTHING to lose. Worst comes to worst you have at least learned a lot from this. And you can go back out find a new girl and try again.
How to act on the "date" (not really a date bc her friend is present)
****y/funny
Try and be a little ****y and funny but don't over do it or it will have the opposite effect. Always occupy that ****y smirk and stare her in the eyes while do this. If she is interested she will reciprocate and touch you.
Kino
At the VERY LEAST, reciprocate her physicality. when she touches you, push the boundaries a bit and touch her back. My rule of thumb is this - Always touch her a little more then she touches you. JUST A LITTLE MORE. Not fvcking groping her. lol.
Dude - jam this into your head - when a girl touches you its a green light.
BUT if you don't touch back? she will lose interest. Unless you are SUPER experienced where you can use disdain to keep attraction up. But you are clearly not at that level. So. Touch her back dummy!!! lol
Be a paragon of fun/excitement
Dude be positive and happy and try and engage them in interesting conversations. DO NOT over think things and become awkward. Have this mind state - "if she doesnt like me oh well, I will still have fun because THIS IS MY LIFE"
Smile. A girl loves a guy who exudes happiness and confidence.
No girl likes a guy who is insecure and unsure of himself to the point where he is over thinking things so much that he cant even be in the moment and have fun.
At the end of the day they are human beings, not fvcking deities. Just have fun man and enjoy your time. She doesnt like you? so what. There are literally billions of girls out there.
Start building your inner game
Dont put so much effort into this girl. You need to start putting more effort into yourself and your character in order to build your inner game and grow a concrete actualized confidence. With this inner confidence, problems like "does this girl like me?" wont occur. Building inner game is THE MOST important thing you should be focused on.
Some ways that you can build your inner confidence (there are a lot of other ways)
Read relentlessly
Dude read The dj bible. Read The 48 laws of power. Read The book of pook. Read The power of habits.
Anything man. But I would start with those. This will open your mind to the mistakes you are making.
Getting advice here is good. But its for a "specific" problem. There are MANY different problems you are going to face in your journey. The DJ bible covers all of them.
Spin plates
Go out and cold approach girls. AND LOTS OF THEM. You need experience with different women. You need to see how women work. How do you do that? You surround yourself with women and you study them up close in person. Date lots of them. Sleep with only the ones that YOU deem worthy. In my humble opinion, gaming many women is more conducive to learning about women in general than gaming one woman.
You also need to be rejected. ALOT. You need to realize that some girls just have low interest and will never like you. This is an important thing. Why? because you learn to not waste your time climbing that uphill battle feigning for her interest. You just go out and get another bish with HIGHER INTEREST.
Work out
I hope to god that you are working out and staying healthy. If not, go to bodybuilding.com find a 12 week workout plan and do it. Follow it to a tee.
Eat the proper amount of macros and calories, eat healthy, never miss a day at the gym, drink water, supplement when necessary.
This is fundamental to building confidence. You will start to feel AMAZING, and become ALOT less timid.
(*most important*) Strive for perpetual betterment - be in a constant state of learning
Never stagnate. Always push yourself to become better and better as an overall person EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Everyday learn new things and confront new frontiers. Expand your boundaries. Never be afraid to face your fears and put yourself in uncomfortable situations. It will make you a better person.
If you do this, 1 year down the road you will be more built, more confident, be able to pick up girls YOU want, be more positive and overall be more happy. This will spill over into getting women. Trust me. But you don't do it for women but for yourself and your happiness.
Meditate
Dude one thing that I will promote to anyone is meditating. When you meditate you truly gain this notion of non-affectivity and non-attachment. You grow this zen-like calmness, and stop being affected by infinitesimal things. You learn to become outcome independent with these in your arsenal. Which I can tell is a big problem that you are dealing with right now. You are a little to outcome dependent. Worrying too much about the consequences of your actions. Enter action with boldness my friend.
Meditation works wonders. You start understanding that you actions dont really matter so you mid as well enter with boldness. Do what you want and do it will confidence.
Learn to not worry about peoples reactions. That will truly occupy your mind and trap you in the judgemental vortex so many people fin themselves in, where you constantly analyze people's judgments of you. Fvck that. Only judge yourself.
Change yourself and the world around you will change.
Eradicate bad habits while implementing good habits
Dude this one is super important to becoming the man you want to be. But you must have an unbelievable will power to implement this. If you can progressively eradicate all of your bad habits and replace them will good habits then there will be no stopping you. You will become successful.
Bad habits could be anything from "not taking action" "afraid of facing your fears" "fapping too much" "eating sh1tty food" "having a dirty place" "not escalating with women" etc. etc.
Eradicate habits like these and replace them with habits such as
"escalate with women confidently" "face my fears relentlessly" "drink only water" "document my daily progress"
Conclusion
Anyways I know I went off topic with the inner game rant, but I think it is EXTREMELY important that new members understand that INNER GAME is the most important facet to getting WOMEN to like you.
So yes I can give you advice on how to get this ONE chick interested in you OR I can give you some tips on how to get ALOT of women to like you.
Believe me. Start you journey today. Become the best mother fvckin man you can. Live in perpetual perfectionism.
Inner game is the MOST important thing you will ever learn.
