Does the bottom of the deadlift feel like a leg press to you guys?

[mrRuckus]

sorry that you have such weak legs..but we all agree that hamstrings, glutes and quads are engaged,

What's that have to do with weak legs? You basically admitted that it's a leg exercise. If you're saying I said it was only a back exercise or only a leg exercise then you're just putting words in my mouth but i can understand your confusion since you're so busy trying to think of quippy things to say to demonstrate your obvious superiority.

I'm done responding to you because you talk like an arrogant pr1ck. Hope you enjoy the attention you crave while I return to my psychologically balanced life.

 

[spesmilitis]

Thats why the DEAD LIFT IS CONSIDERED A GREAT BACK EXERCISE !!! not hip not leg or anything else...even though they all play factors in the movement..the focus and stress is placed on the back !

I agree that the deadlift is beneficial for the back. However, the focus is on the hips, not the back. Maybe this is a debate about semantics. But I think its important so that beginners have a better idea of how to perform the deadlift.

sorry that you have such weak legs..but we all agree that hamstrings, glutes and quads are engaged, there is INCREDIBLE STRESS on your lower back while you lift with your legs in the earlier stages through lock out..if you lower the weight and do higher reps instead of trying to be like a powerlifter prepping for a meet, your legs will feel much better and your back will get stronger.

Hmmm, thats strange. As my squat and deadlift numbers went up, so did the soreness in my quads/glutes/hamstrings after the deadlift.

 

[speakeasy]

For some reason, I've been getting severe cramps as of late in my gluts and back upper legs, the right leg. But I've also had the same happen in MMA class. It's weird, all of a sudden this has been happening frequently. I took a little break from deadlifts for this reason.

 

[int3l]

Okay i just did some deadlifts and well, i think my form was alright, my back was horizontal at the lowest point (kind of) and my knees didn't move much, so my shin was straight everything past the knee went back then as i went up i pushed my hips forward and stuff. My lowerback is KILLING me.

 

[mrRuckus]

I've been doing rack deadlifts for a bit at around 8 reps at knee level.

On Monday i finally went back to regular deadlifts and i couldn't get the bar off the ground, even at weights lower than previous maxes. I ended up doing a set of 3 at 50 lbs less than my 1RM. 20 lbs more than my 3 rep set i couldn't even budge off the ground once. Funny thing is that all the rack deadlifts made the top portion of the lift easy as hell; it was just hard to get it off the floor.

I'm guessing my cns or whatever just atrophied (whatever the term is) since i haven't been deadlifting from the ground for a while. Is this right? Is this normal? I'm guessing it'll just come right back as i plan to do 3rep sets for about a month.

effort? alex?

Okay i just did some deadlifts and well, i think my form was alright, my back was horizontal at the lowest point (kind of) and my knees didn't move much,

whoa whoa, wrong wrong wrong. your back should be no where near horizontal ever in this lift. blah blah physicy stuff all torque bad.

go on youtube and search for "rippetoe deadlift" and look for a video where he's explaining step by step how to do it. I had the link but i can't find it now.

 

[Warboss Alex]

I've been doing rack deadlifts for a bit at around 8 reps at knee level.

Funny thing is that all the rack deadlifts made the top portion of the lift easy as hell; it was just hard to get it off the floor.

effort? alex?

you answered your own question. the rack deadlift from knee level trains the upper part of the deadlift and not the off-the-floor strength. that's why I would never exclusively do rack deadlifts, I alternate them with floor pulls. I do racks below the knee as this better mimics the floor pull (there is still a little hip drive etc).

racks from knee height or above are an overload move for the upper back/top end strength.

don't worry, your floor strength will return. pull off blocks and/or incorporate box squats to get it back quicker.

 

[mrRuckus]

you answered your own question.




the rack deadlift from knee level trains the upper part of the deadlift and not the off-the-floor strength. that's why I would never exclusively do rack deadlifts, I alternate them with floor pulls. I do racks below the knee as this better mimics the floor pull (there is still a little hip drive etc).

Usually when i ask a question i'm just looking for a yay or nay (with possible correction) of what i am deducing rather than expecting to be spoonfed.

I'm going to have to rig something up for rack lifts. The last holes in my power rack are right at my knees so i just went with that the first time through. I wish there were a few pegs lower. I guess I'll have to stack up plates or something to place the bar on.

I'm gonna sorta rotate through regular deadlifts and various sticking points as they come up. Same with squats which i finally gonna make my b1tch. I hate them! Sweet calorie goodness, do your magic.

don't worry, your floor strength will return. pull off blocks and/or incorporate box squats to get it back quicker.

For a while when i heard "pull of blocks" i was confused by it but never bothered looking up what it meant. I kept wondering "how would raising the bar off the floor help with the bottom of the lift?" Finally i realized it meant YOU were standing on the blocks. I so smart.

I'm not sure i even have the flexibility to safely do deadlifts off blocks but i've been working hard on hip, hamstring, lower back flexibility lately and really i'm confused by it all because i'm unsure just how flexible i am and what you're supposed to be able to do. How flat should you be able to get your lower back when you bend all the way over? Should i be able to get it straight when i'm touching my toes? Anyone know? This affects good mornings because i don't think i can go down low enough on them before i can't keep it from rounding due more to inflexibility than lack of strength.

 

[Warboss Alex]

I'm going to have to rig something up for rack lifts. The last holes in my power rack are right at my knees so i just went with that the first time through. I wish there were a few pegs lower. I guess I'll have to stack up plates or something to place the bar on.

Stand (yourself) on a couple of plates or a box, that will bring the bar lower.

I'm gonna sorta rotate through regular deadlifts and various sticking points as they come up. Same with squats which i finally gonna make my b1tch. I hate them! Sweet calorie goodness, do your magic.

For pulling off blocks, keep your back straight throughout the move. If you're tall this may be awkward (I'm 6' and it is for me). The other option is to use bands/chains to train the bottom end but honestly, you should be fine even without these. Rotating between racks and floor deadlifts should be fine, if you're doing pause or box squats you're getting enough hip work so off the floor shouldn't be a sticking point.

 

[mrRuckus]

Stand (yourself) on a couple of plates or a box, that will bring the bar lower.

damn that's blindingly obvious. that'll work to place the bench a little higher too for the awkward times i'm trying to bench in the rack too and setting the bars up for safety but the holes aren't quite where they need to be. you're either a genius or i'm a lamp post.

For pulling off blocks, keep your back straight throughout the move. If you're tall this may be awkward (I'm 6' and it is for me).

About 5'10.5. I really can't keep my back straight bending over past about 75-80 degrees.

 

[Warboss Alex]

you're either a genius or i'm a lamp post.

I leave it to the masses to decide.

About 5'10.5. I really can't keep my back straight bending over past about 75-80 degrees.

Don't do them then, they're not essential. To be honest I did them once and never again (but I've never lacked low end strength).

Your low end can be strengthened with hip work, box squats and bands/chains so there's no need really to do deadlifts off blocks.

 

[Frink']

Do deadlifts on blocks and prepear yourself for a backinjury. Yeah shure, your form is perfect. I'll beleve it when I see it.

 

[mrRuckus]

To be honest I did them once and never again (but I've never lacked low end strength).

It'll come back. It's gotta be neural. My drive out of the bottom my squat was nonexistent on friday too.

 

[Warboss Alex]

It'll come back. It's gotta be neural. My drive out of the bottom my squat was nonexistent on friday too.

yep, hence the need for keeping full pulls in your rotation. it comes back quickly though