Does the 2 strikes rule still apply even if she counter offers twice?

[PokerStar]

"usually i'd get back to her by the next day at most" what i meant by routinely boring is that you dont want her knowing your routine.

if you get into a routine of always calling her in a certian time frame, it feels boring.

Be unpredictable. Be out of the blue. if she gets used to your routines, switch it up try something new.

create excitment.

 

[pete_101]

"usually i'd get back to her by the next day at most" what i meant by routinely boring is that you dont want her knowing your routine.

if you get into a routine of always calling her in a certian time frame, it feels boring.

Be unpredictable. Be out of the blue. if she gets used to your routines, switch it up try something new.

create excitment.

i dont know what is the rule in regards to being rude and not replying swiftly enough.. generally speaking if i've been replying within a few hours or by the next day.. any longer it seems a 'hey, sorry for the late reply' is necessary at the start of the text unless i send it before the end of tonight.

the idea is to create anxiety and worry on her side without her getting p1ssed thinking im playing games, just i've lost some interest and at the same time when i do offer the next day/time she doesn't think i'm just fitting her into my schedule as an option cos another 1 cancelled.

 

[PokerStar]

hey man. my rules dont apply to everyone else. so go what works and waht is most comformtable for you.

just dont stress over when you should call and when not to call. it should come naturally.

 

[TopGun2000]

You need practice dating (we all do!), but if I were you, I'd work just as hard, if not harder, on filling my time up with activities that you like--especially during the week. The gym is an AWESOME idea--most people agree that a fit guy attracts more women. I spend M, W, and F evenings in the gym. No exceptions. In the rest times between sets of my workouts, I'm texting/emailing women on my smartphone, and/or talking up the women at the gym. On T and TH, you'll find me at the bookstore or at the town library, reading--and approaching women (yes, there ARE lots of hot chicks in bookstores and even the library!).

Do you see a pattern here? I'm doing activities that I like, but I'm still able to chase women at the same time.



I say fvuck "acting busy." If she's hot enough, I'll play the flaking game. Iceberg gave you some really good advice about flaking and online. Remember? He said (and I paraphrase) that women on online dating sites are especially flaky! I know this to be true, Pete. SO WHAT! Play the fvucking game. Just because a chick is flaky doesn't mean that you can't score with her.

Here's a typical dialogue with a hot woman in ESPI's online dating game:

ESPI email #1 to HB9 on November 1st: "Absolutely gorgeous photos. How are you?"

(no response from HB9)

ESPI email #2 to HB9 on November 8th: "Can't believe that such a sexy women like you is still on this site; are you just too picky, or do you have a tail or something? LOL"

Response from HB9 on November 9th: "Ha ha! Very funny. You made me smile. No tail. Just a few horns--but I am picky."

ESPI email #3 to HB9 on November 9th (going stright for the date now; no bullshait emails; get right to the fvucking point): "OK well that's good! Was beginning to wonder about you. Do you have plans Friday night? I'm gonna be shopping at International Mall; why don't you come up and meet me for a drink at 9 pm in front of Cheesecake Factory. I'll have a table ready"

ESPI email #4 to HB9 on November 16th: "Hey You! Come up to Chart House Friday at 8 and join me for a drink."

Response from HB9 on 11/16: "Let's talk. 813-999-9999.--Julia"

^^^This happens ALL the time to me on match.com and POF--I will date only the most gorgeous women, and 90% of the time, it seems, I have to play the stupid flaking game, which usually entails several email and oftentimes, several phone calls/texts. Occasionally, they'll meet up without even offering their number. I'll take that chance. If they no-show me, it's OK. I'm never going to travel very far,a nd I dam sure ain't spending hardly any money. If I'm having a good week, sometimes I'll double book dates, in case one cancels.

Hot women want to test you, Pete, to see if you'll give up. DON'T BE LIKE MOST GUYS WHO GIVE UP AFTER JUST AN EMAIL OR TWO. Unless she says "NO," you should keep trying! You don't have to sell out or become an AFC; you just have to keep emailing her with short messages; don't allow her to get you into bullshiat elongated email and text and phone dialogues. Cut the short talk after a few minutes and askher to meet you for a drink.

Notice in my example dialogue how I let a week go by in between those initial emails. Notice how minimal and to-the-point my emails are? My goal is to avoid the small talk and get her to come out and meet me! That's it. It's usually a very different game when I meet up face-to-face. Not always. Some dates I know right off the bat that we're not connecting--no biggie. I'll cash out on the first drink and say, "bye." But occassionally I'll find one that is gorgeous and easy to talk to (and to score with!). It'll make you realize that texting and emailing usually mean nothing. I personally think that women use flaking to separate the dirt from the gold.

I guess it all depends on what you are looking for. If you just want to get laid, yeah sure you can jump through their hoops and play their games. If you want to find a good LTR candidate, then you will probably have to keep your dominate frame here.

 

[pete101]

well it appears waiting an extra day didnt' have it's desired effect.

i sent:

i haven't made plans for sunday evening (yet). lets make it Sun at 8pm. meet me at the same place.

no reply.

i think maybe i shouldn't have replied at all, what i've learnt here is any answer other than 'how about x day?' is not suitable.. how about another day or how about next week? is not or ever good enough. will just get ignored.

now this leads to my other question.. the other plate who said 'how about mid/late next week?'

i think i should let mid/late next week pass then recontact the week after, i think maybe i should apologize for not being in touch otherwise she'll think i'm an azz who's ignored her and is trying to meet her again?

i'm trying to do things differently this time but i think it's not working cos i'm not acting like a guy who has options.

 

[perseverance]

"Does the 2 strikes rule still apply even if she counter offers twice?"

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. She's flaked twice and is showing no interest in you and you're charade is easily seen through. Just cut your loses and move on Pete.

You need to start reading and understanding the advice given to you on this forum - You're asking advice and showing no signs of heeding to it.

Game playing with a girl who isn't interested in you is stupid. You can't wait one day, three days, nine days or eight seven days to reply to her text, it won't make one iota of difference.

 

[blueeyedgent]

Wow dude, you are defiantly putting too much energy in to this girl! Chill for a bit,

listen to what the guys are saying, you need to cool off! Stop putting that ***** on the pedestal!

I get what your saying that you have no other options right now but SHE doesn’t know that, the less she knows the better which is why you should keep your messages short and sweet as it keeps you a mystery (which is attractive)

Just because she’s having to cancel on dates does not mean she’s not interested, she might have very good reasons which may have nothing to do with you at all! If I was Ill and had to cancel on a girl (which I have) and she accused me of playing games/being flaky (which happened) I’d tell her to “do one” (which I did) lol so stop being selfish, it’s not all about you! lol

the fact she is offering other dates is a GOOD THING so don’t worry! What’s the urgency? what’s wrong with next week? You sound like the kind of guy who is always overanalysing situations, I know its hard to switch off sometimes but a trick I find is to recognise when your thinking about something and actively change your thoughts by doing something active, watch a film, read a book, meet up with a friend, do anything that keeps your mind off whatever is troubling you then you can look at it again from a fresh perspective!

Good luck

This post is right on the money.

If you have nothing else to do, that is the WORST thing to project to a woman. Find something to do. Go out with your buddies, go to the gym, find some new plates!

 

[pete101]

well she didn't reply, and guess what i saw her while out today in the same place i picked her up!

i walk in, go to use the bathroom she pulls a newspaper up to cover her face so i dont see her then when i come out she looks down pretending to be reading to avoid looking up, i go 'hey!' and wave as i walk out not breaking stride.

as i walk past the window outside as i leave (shes sitting by the window) she's pretending to be on the phone

wtf is wrong with her?

honestly.. she was asking for another time on tuesday/counter offering.. i wait 2 days and tell her sunday and now shes acting like a b1tch.

what a headcase.. f'ing annoying, really wanted to bang her. i'll just blank her and give her the death stare pretend she doesn't exist.. dont think i can show indifference.

 

[PokerStar]

forget this b*tch. she'll be fat in a few years anyway.