Does She Like You in 2017? Here is the #1 Indicator of Interest

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"What cha doin?" This means she is infatuated with you. "What are you doing" means you are still in the preliminary stages. But whenever you see a slang, it means she is in that comfortable lovey dovey stage. Other indicators are pet names. So it is not just frequency, but the verbiage she uses.
 

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Lol. I've had girls initiate texting multiple times a day and flake on the meetup and girls who never text me first but if I hit them up at 11 PM they're on their way (no excuses).

Then, there's when you're relegated to being her phone buddy, which you can find plenty of stories online about, especially LDRs, where you have girls texting guys everyday for years. But she's only interested in the attention.

I've also had girls whose conception of ladyhood involves never texting first--but always answering texts in a timely manner.

As much as guys would love some logical set of 'rules,' in 2017, you can throw that out the window. Every girl is running her own game, play yours accordingly. Stop worrying about her interest level in you & start focusing on your interest level in her.
 

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So, if she ghosts you to get your attention away from other plates...does that count?:p
Expect this periodically. So, less than 2 initiations means she is not interested or she wants you to THINK that.

Lol. I've had girls initiate texting multiple times a day and flake on the meetup and girls who never text me first but if I hit them up at 11 PM they're on their way (no excuses).
One counterexample does not undo a 5 year, multi-girl study. Unless you kept statistics.
 

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I still rely on "Negative" signs more than IOI's. Seems to be more reliable...

Example; she says she "loves you" but, never ask how your day goes. Or maybe she will initiate contact but flakes on dates.

What are you gonna believe, IOI's? Or the Negatives?
 

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Wrong.The #1 indicator of interest is, always has been and always will be her having sex with you. It's the only one that means ANYTHING.
No, her initiating supersedes sex in 2017. Sex means very little on its own. Sex does not prove interest. That said, sex + romance + (her) orgasms + her initiating does indeed mean a lot.

My study was based on my literally recording and tabulating every text from every girlfriend for years, and observing patterns. Namely the ratio of how often her initiating led to sex (the #2 most important IOI).

With a phone in her hand at all times, with everyone she knows in touch with her in real time always, if she is thinking of you, she will tend to reach out - often every other day.
 

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It wasn't my preference when my favorite girl wasn't initiating enough. My study shows that the number of times she initiated per week was in direct proportion to the number of dates we went on every 3 weeks (with my trying to get more dates consistently).

Key statistic: There is roughly one date for every 3 time she initiates.

Not only have there been 3 phases so far, but they changed on my exact quarter birthdays (which I had predicted to her in advance they would).
  • Season one: She initiated twice per week. Two dates every 3 weeks.
  • Season two: She only initiated once per week. One date every 3 weeks.
  • Season three: She started initiating three times per week. Three dates every 3 weeks.
  • Season four: (Starts this week).
 

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Lol. I've had girls initiate texting multiple times a day and flake on the meetup and girls who never text me first but if I hit them up at 11 PM they're on their way (no excuses).

Then, there's when you're relegated to being her phone buddy, which you can find plenty of stories online about, especially LDRs, where you have girls texting guys everyday for years. But she's only interested in the attention.

I've also had girls whose conception of ladyhood involves never texting first--but always answering texts in a timely manner.

As much as guys would love some logical set of 'rules,' in 2017, you can throw that out the window. Every girl is running her own game, play yours accordingly. Stop worrying about her interest level in you & start focusing on your interest level in her.
True. Bigneil occasionally provides some absolute gems of content to SS, but then ruins it with tons of almost Asperger's level of analysis and then calls this "game".

This thread is a no from me.
 

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I have to say that I agree with this. How often she initiates text messages is a very good way to measure her IL. However, waiting for a woman to initiate texts will NOT cause her to initiate more. You have to do work to raise her IL to the point where she is initiating most text messages. Her IL can be raised both through text messaging and in person.

With a phone in her hand at all times, with everyone she knows in touch with her in real time always, if she is thinking of you, she will tend to reach out - often every other day.
I'm going to go a bit further and say every day, except for the ones where you surprise her and initiate. Once she's wishing you good morning or sends any kind of hello on most days, her IL is right where you want it.

"What are you doing" means you are still in the preliminary stages.
When a woman texts this, it means you're on her mind, and that's exactly where you want to be. If she's thinking about you very often, she'll be wondering what you're doing at many times during the day.
 

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I like a (somewhat) settled pattern of being the initiator. This is just leading (and her allowing/enjoying you to do so), and makes it easier for me to compartmentalize.

Female initiation can be a way of trying to gain some control, or trying to settle her anxieties.
Yup. I like setting the pace. Girls initiating are pretty off-putting for me--it's like ballroom dancing with a partner who keeps trying to lead & upset the rhythm.

I definitely don't want a girl thinking of me all the time--preferably she has an interesting life outside of me that already fulfills the bulk of her emotional needs.
 

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Before the relationship starts, the man needs to do most of the initiating. "Be omnipresent. Everything should remind the target of you". However, once the relationship starts, texting her less will absolutely make her text you more.

"The best way to get someone's attention is to remove yours" -
Coach Corey Wayne

"Absence makes the heart grow fonder" - Common wisdom

Men who like to hump women's legs won't like this theory, I understand. I still insist we're better off letting them text us. Have you ever been in bed with a girl and see her texting another guy who chimes in? Do you want to be that other guy texting "hey baby just thinking about you"? Then let them be the first to text.

Note the statistics I've provided are simply empirical research, not "game".
 

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"Once a relationship starts, the woman should do 80% of the texting" - Coach Corey Wayne

I definitely don't want a girl thinking of me all the time.
False.

I've had women with very high-interest that don't often initiate.
This is an oxymoron. How do you know she had high interest if you never gave her a chance to see if she would let you walk away?

If she really had high interest and you tried to walk away, she wouldn't let you. That would not weaken the bond, it would set the hook.

Is anyone going to say that a girl initiating 3 times a week is bad? Of course some of you will. Most men here have no formula except to assume that they are a successful seducer and that whatever they are doing must be the best thing to do.

 
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