Does race play a part?

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Does it matter what ethnicity you are? Humans are humans right? In a multi-ethnic country most of us live in now (United States here), is 2011 a time where we could actually be seen as any other person? We all come in different shades of skin color, different colors of hair and hair types and other sorts of physical features and culture...

My question is, do women have a preference when it comes who their seeking? I'm Indian btw. Women love alpha males, correct? But would a pack of white, black, hispanic, or oriental woman want an Indian alpha male as a mate?...Or any race for that matter. Are there boundaries of ethnicity when it comes who's worthy of being an alpha?

I think the media plays apart on who's beautiful, good looking or not. In America, white people dominate the hollywood, magazines, entertainment business scene. Hell, even in India. Bollywood is everywhere and it's filled with light skinned Indians from the northern part of the nation and they dominate the Bollywood scene which is why they're considered to be perhaps better looking than those dark skinned (Dravidian) ethnic who live in the south.
 
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No offence mate but for what I had the chance to see living months in western europe,your ethnicity is the less interesting to women.
It's not so rare to see black guys with very good looking girls,black or white but indian guys,even fine guys the most they got were goodlooking indian girls.
Damn even the indian girls were more interested in whites,and it's not only my opinion some other guys I worked with complained about it too.

In my opinion the guys who have an advantage are the white guys,it seems they even get a bonus from girls of other ethnicities,as long as they are not slavic in that case some girls seems to consider you some sort of potential sexist. :rolleyes:
I'm talking about Europe btw,not usa or else...and if you are indian just forget to look for ***** in eastern europe,it's not going to happen no matter how tight your game is.
The only dark guys (no offence no idea how to say it) succeeding with eastern europeans girls were turkish guys when those girl went to vacation there and when they come if asked about those new guys on facebook,all they do is skip the question.
 

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No sh1t it does. And I'm not gonna say it's the slightest thing either. Thing is, that issue has totally destroyed my confidence 2009-late 2010.

But you know what? **** it, theres nothing you can do. I'm a chink, you're a curryboy, you're going to have a disadvantage. You're only gonna rarely get laid, cause little to no people like Gandhis or faceless chinamen. Just approach as many people as possible, and hope you get lucky.

Well. No. There is definately something you can do. Try using your race to your ADVANTAGE, dude. Often I introduce myself I'm like "Hey, I'm (my real name here). But don't call me that. I'm Yao Ming with Morgan Freeman's voice". Definately try to flip negative stereotypes into DHVs. And the last paragraph I was sarcastic about not having much of a chance, but I wasn't about approaching as many women as possible.

Honestly though, at the end of the day, sure, the white guy may get laid more than you. But hey, thats not a bad thing at all. At the end of the day, do you really want to bang a girl who's racist, blowing you off just cause of your color? I don't think so, mate.
 

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Novaknight, you from uk?

It makes a big difference which race you are, it's natural people respond differently to others that are different to them.
 

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SeymourCake said:
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My question is, do women have a preference when it comes who their seeking?
Do you mean American women? Because you can't generalize the world's population of women as liking one race or another.

Pretty sure women in Africa are going to have different preferences then women in Europe or Asia. I don't see how you can generalize something like that unless you are talking about a specific country or area. And even then its just another generalization.
 

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Yes, race matters. The same way other things matter, like whether you are fat or thin and so on.

First of all, it's natural that it matters. Cultural differences do exist, and in the case of different race they are even more apparent. For some reason, people often think the american way, that you can go anywhere and play it cool and everything is fine. Well it doesn't work this way.

However, I do see some patterns. Many young white females are obsessed with black. Indians do have an audience too with older white females. Whites don't stand a chance unless they are natural born players, east asians have it the worse.

Personally, I don't understand why an asian would want to date a white chick, unless he is in desperate need of sex. Even watching them eat like pigs is enough to put you off.
 

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Strelok said:
No offence mate but for what I had the chance to see living months in western europe,your ethnicity is the less interesting to women.
It's not so rare to see black guys with very good looking girls,black or white but indian guys,even fine guys the most they got were goodlooking indian girls.
Damn even the indian girls were more interested in whites,and it's not only my opinion some other guys I worked with complained about it too.

The only dark guys (no offence no idea how to say it) succeeding with eastern europeans girls were turkish guys when those girl went to vacation there and when they come if asked about those new guys on facebook,all they do is skip the question.
Huh? Turks are not really dark. If Turks and Lebanese are dark you have to include ALL of Southern Europe and Serbia/Bulgaria. Those are all white people. Not all white people are blue-eyed and blonde. Go to Portugal. You will see what I mean.

Facebook IS NOT USED BY EAST EUROPEAN GIRLS. Your story was ruined with that bit of nonsense. The fact that Ukraine is right next to Turkey makes your story even sillier. Turks do well. VERY well. The Turks and Lebanese are probably winning. Those groups are all over Eastern Europe picking up some high-end young girls. Just go to the discos.
 

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The dating site OKCupid ran a study where they asked who thinks anyone else is attractive.
White people came out in front, always. No matter what ethnic group answered, they all say whiteys are tops. Black people put themselves last.
 

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Huh? Turks are not really dark. If Turks and Lebanese are dark you have to include ALL of Southern Europe and Serbia/Bulgaria. Those are all white people. Not all white people are blue-eyed and blonde. Go to Portugal. You will see what I mean.

Facebook IS NOT USED BY EAST EUROPEAN GIRLS. Your story was ruined with that bit of nonsense. The fact that Ukraine is right next to Turkey makes your story even sillier. Turks do well. VERY well. The Turks and Lebanese are probably winning. Those groups are all over Eastern Europe picking up some high-end young girls. Just go to the discos.
They don't use facebook? so if they wanna keep in touch with guys met abroad they just ask them to join VKontakte? yeah makes perfect sense :rolleyes:
You should really stop to spread bvll**** and give wrong ideas about EE as the land of easy pvssy for everyone.
 

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As a persian i do very well with white women in the USA. And I'm not talking about the fatties and the ugs; we're talking about HB 7.5+:yes:

However i do see my Indian and Chinese friends trying to get with white chicks and failing. i guess some white chicks are racist:confused:

So to answer your question , Some ethnicities have an advantage and some don't in regards with white women.
 

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Turks are dark. The only reason some of them are not really dark is the ottoman tradition of kidnapping kids from the christian regions of the ottoman empire as a form of taxation (the Janissary corpse was the outcome of that practice).

The reason that turks or lebanese or others from similar countries are successful is because they are very hungry, living in places where women are restricted, don't wear revealing clothes the same way they do in the west, don't socialize freely with men and so on. The only way a woman would escape their chasing is by running at top speed. However, many white women find that charming, so it works for them.
 

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Visitor125 said:
Turks are dark. The only reason some of them are not really dark is the ottoman tradition of kidnapping kids from the christian regions of the ottoman empire as a form of taxation (the Janissary corpse was the outcome of that practice).

The reason that turks or lebanese or others from similar countries are successful is because they are very hungry, living in places where women are restricted, don't wear revealing clothes the same way they do in the west, don't socialize freely with men and so on. The only way a woman would escape their chasing is by running at top speed. However, many white women find that charming, so it works for them.
You got it wrong bro; Turks are WHITE for the most part. I've been to Turkey so I would know:rolleyes:
 

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persiangino said:
However i do see my Indian and Chinese friends trying to get with white chicks and failing. i guess some white chicks are racist:confused:
I see two aspects in your opinion.

First, what you describe is only natural. Many chinese come from a culture where subtlety rules, so I can clearly see why they fail, and it's not their fault either. Chances are that a successful white or black player would also fail in a traditional chinese environment. It's called "cultural differences", and it actually works to their favour in the long term: They may not enjoy sex, but they don't have to endure the drama and vulgarity of the average white chick.

Second, calling this racist does sound like an exaggeration. Do you think girls in Iran would date some white guy that easily?

Let's face it, everyone wants to date with people he feels culturally comfortable with. In the case of white women, their behaviour and way of life (constant flaking, disrespect to men, behaving like a man, cursing and so on) makes dating them difficult even for most white guys.

EDIT: Let me add that me finding most white women vulgar and non-attractive can also be seen as a cultural view, thus further emphasizing my point about cultural differences. Other people find white chicks lively and bubbly and fun, so I guess my dislike leaves more for them.

EDIT 2: Saying that Turks are white is like saying that Brazilians are white (actually Brazilians would probably be whiter on average). In the case of Turkey, it largely depends on which areas you visit. As a matter of fact, I have met people from similar countries who were totally white, but they certainly weren't the norm.
 

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What I want to know is why White Women are considered superior to all other women? I love Hispanic women and Middle Eastern Women. I went to Tel-Aviv last summer and the place was packed with gorgeous Israeli women, some white, some with olive skin and beautiful caramel tans and even the women in Dubai are beautiful.

Give me a Middle Eastern woman or a Hispanic over a white woman anyday of the week. White women are overrated especially by Ethnic Minority men.
 

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Htienvu said:
Novaknight, you from uk?

It makes a big difference which race you are, it's natural people respond differently to others that are different to them.
I'm from the US. Where asians are perceived as short guys with small wangs. Disadvantage, but if you get your game up it's gonna be so much better. Honestly I'm not at where I need to be yet. But I've made it my goal to get there instead of sit and complain to myself about this issue, like I once did.

Though honestly, difference....it's really okay to be different. Hence why many women aren't lesbian.

The indian guy's gonna have TONS more trouble. But it's still doable.
 

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Htienvu said:
Novaknight, you from uk?

It makes a big difference which race you are, it's natural people respond differently to others that are different to them.
I'm from the US. Where asians are perceived as short guys with small wangs. Disadvantage, but if you get your game up it's gonna be so much better. Honestly I'm not at where I need to be yet. But I've made it my goal to get there instead of sit and complain to myself about this issue, like I once did.

Though honestly, difference....it's really okay to be different. Hence why many women aren't lesbian.

The indian guy's gonna have TONS more trouble. But it's still doable.
 

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I live in Belgium and here is my opinion based on observations only:

its not common to see mixed couples, although sometimes I do see white girls with dark guys and dark girls with white guys, but it still remains uncommon.
Asian guys with white girls is a very very very rare thing, seen it only a few times in my life.
Indian guys with non indian girls is very rare too, so rare that I dont remember seeing it once. Indian guys with hot indian girls yes.

personally I'm white and I'm only attracted to white girls on a genetic level, dunno why tbh, but its like that
 

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If you are an alpha, race shouldn't matter...

In my opinion, so few people have confidence in this world, that if you exude it you can get any woman you want. If you are truly an alpha, you wouldn't be concerned with this trivial insecurity.

Most people are confused as to where they are going and even if they know where they are going they are unsure.

There are attractive people in all races. If you are a good looking indian man I'm sure people notice. The power of a good looking minority is actually greater than the power of a good looking white man.

From a purely superficial standpoint, if you see a 9/10 asian/black/hispanic/indian guy and you compare him with a 9/10 white guy, chances are the minority guy is going to stand out as being more unique like.

From a more emotional sociological standpoint, a minority badass is ALWAYS stronger than a white badass. Think about what that black or hispanic bro has to do to fit in with all these racists white bros. If they accept him, he is often the MOST hardcore one. I mean just look at alot of the hispanic / black stars like usher who are crazy mack daddies. If you analyze ushers facial structure, its not like the best looking face in the world. This is not to say you should try to be confident in the way other men are (show off muscles by wearing wife beaters, try to act like a jackass).

And every different race has different ways of exuding confidence. I am half asian / half white. From what I can see, my father (asian) never flashes his stuff like the white men do but he has a type of silent quiet confidence that is quite strong. I mean my mom often called a milf obviously likes it. Growing up in a white suburb, I am surrounded by friends that include bros (alpha guys who drive huge trucks but most of the time lack intellect, why else would they have to copy a template of confidence instead of creating their own), abercrombie and fitch kids (the two former categories are white supremists in different social class categories), asian kids that I love playing sports and video games with, nerds, skaters, surfers, etc...

After mingling with so many different people I can only conclude if you are alpha and truly have your stuff together (I am talking about real confidence that comes from tons of life experience) its rare enough to shine like a diamond in a desert full of sand.

If you have a passion in life or something you love, GO AFTER IT. People will notice that and your shell will have minimal impact on how people view you.

I guess my main point is UNIQUE SHOWS OF CONFIDENCE makes the strongest impact on attracting women (not stereotypical ones, buying a huge truck doesn't really mean anything anymore). Since you are a minority you have more unique options to express yourself and should be thankful!

Also I just thought about the sociological impact of being an alpha male. If you are a minority guy already pulling really hot girls from any nationality it makes white people turn their heads and think: what does that guy have? In certain social dynamics such as the hottest girl liking you in class then 5 or 6 girls following suit, this gives you a huge advantage. It kind of accelerates the whole process out of proportion which is great. Why can that 2/10 get that 9/10 bombshell? And hes native american? He must be absolutely awesome in some way I cant see.
 

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Strelok said:
They don't use facebook? so if they wanna keep in touch with guys met abroad they just ask them to join VKontakte? yeah makes perfect sense :rolleyes:
You should really stop to spread bvll**** and give wrong ideas about EE as the land of easy pvssy for everyone.
strelok.....ti govorish po russki?

do you speak russian?
 

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novaknight said:
I'm from the US. Where asians are perceived as short guys with small wangs. Disadvantage, but if you get your game up it's gonna be so much better. Honestly I'm not at where I need to be yet. But I've made it my goal to get there instead of sit and complain to myself about this issue, like I once did.

Though honestly, difference....it's really okay to be different. Hence why many women aren't lesbian.

The indian guy's gonna have TONS more trouble. But it's still doable.
Where in the US, lol? Nothing like that here in the East Coast that I've noticed so far.
 

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