Does learning how to seduce women make you a better person?

[Dongfu]

It seems that there are two seperate objectives on this site.

1. The primary focus of the posts: Learning how to attract women.

2. Becoming a "better man," which is most often being related to how you handle yourself with women.

So the question: Does learning how to sucesfully attract women make you a better person. Does this some how increase your value and worth. If so, how?

 

[regular_guy]

I would have to say yes you do become a better person. Don't know if better is the right word. Your life will improve though. Because in order to be successful with women you first need to understand yourself first. Understanding yourself will naturally set the ground work for being good with women. Knowing what you want will make your life better. The tactics just some nitrous to accelerating the attraction.

 

[reset]

It's backwards, and really hard to do. Being a better man is WHAT attracts women. Trying to be a better man to attract women, I don't think it works. How could you be a better man if you're only trying to attract women? They seem to cancel each other out.

 

[reset]

Because in order to be successful with women you first need to understand yourself. Understanding yourself will naturally set the ground work for being good with women.

This is why the techniques discussed here can only get you so far. They aren't very good if they are riding on a shaky foundation.

 

[JDA70]

I'm all about being an Alpha Male.
I think seduction is a skill you learn.
Does it make you a better person?
I think so. Success with women is a positive thing
in your life.

Just for the record I admit that I'm not the best guy
at explaining things as I just started to help out around here.
BTW Dongfu I like your posts you bring up some good stuff.

 

[joey2times]

There was a thread on here one time that was posted by some beligerent drunk guy. To summarize, he said something about women intrinsicly not having character or honor, and that is what they seek in a man.

If you look at online personal ads, you'll see women yapping about all these wonderful qualities they seek in men. They want people to believe they are these virtuous beings, when in reality, they might be looking for a guy to fill those gaps.

Does it make you a better person? No. Will women think you're a better person? Yes.

 

[JDA70]

I read from Carlos Xuma an Alpha male
and a dating guru that you need
confidence for the both of you.
I think that is very true.

 

[Dongfu]

How could you be a better man if you're only trying to attract women? They seem to cancel each other out.

 

[regular_guy]

I read from Carlos Xuma an Alpha male
and a dating guru that you need
confidence for the both of you.
I think that is very true.

A woman with no confidence. Sounds like a AFC, women style. Have you seen a woman with confidence. It is alot more attractive than a woman with none. By a mans confidence I think it partially refers to back bone. I.e. her ability to trust you.

 

[Dongfu]

The drunk guy was kinda on to something.....women are insecure....they often lack confidence...even if they appear confident...they are usually insecure. They want man to have confidence and security to make up for thier lack of those qualities. Just like we want women for sex...women want a man for confidence, someone to lean on etc, a figure of inner strenght.

sounds funny. does anyone remember the name of the post

 

[PigAdlemPimp]

The ability to seduce hot babes doesn't make you a better person, you become a lot worse.

AFC's are not nice people, they only do generous things for the girls, in the hope that they will then allow them to fvck them.

When you can fvck as many hot babes as you desire, you don't have to be nice to anyone, this obviously transforms you into a far more selfish person.

You bait your hot babes fvck them and vanish, you tend to spend much more time pursuing your own selfish desires.

If you fvck many hot babes, you do whatever hobbies you have without trying to pick up a girl, the hot babes are drawn to you whilst you are enjoying other things in your life, if you want to fvck a lot of hot babes then follow your ambitions, not your penises desires.:rockon:

 

[War Against Betaism]

It has improved my life. I have gotten more friends and am able to keep more of them. I wasn't hardcore emo, but I would get emo for a lot of small things. I thought I had a mental disease. I would get in a lot of fights. Getting to attract women clicked a whole set of gears inside my head to become a better person.

 

[stephanie]

yeah it does, u can practise on me...

stephanie.scott@okstate.edu

 

[no_longer_afc]

As has already been touched upon, this seduction lark is all about improving confidence. Confidence isn't just being able to pull girls, it's has so many applications in the real world. I've seen my confidence really improve, my public speaking is good and I don't get as nervous as normal. I walk tall and feel good about myself which for me is the most important aspect of the whole activitiy.

I feel that the techniques and tips are a bit more specific but again build on this solid base. Without the confidence and crucially the guts (I lack the experience to ask for numbers, something that I have to work on) you will not get that far IMO.

 

[wiggamonkey]

Learning the art of pickup doesn't necessarily make you a better or a worse person. It simply makes you able to attract more women.

How you act on this skill is really what determines whether you have become "better." Obviously if you start to take advantage of/ use girls, then pick up skills haven't made you a "better" person. Whatever "better person" really means, I'm gonna go ahead and say that it does not mean using girls.

On another level you could say that pickup makes you a "better" person in the way that it socially enriches you. Developing a successful game causes you to observe the ways in which people operate. Learning what works and what doesn't work helps you to recognize tendencies of not just females, but of people in general. Fine-tuning your game also helps you to become self-aware and to decide what are your negative attributes that you could work on.

As an aside, I'll go ahead and say that pickup skills do NOT always enhance your life. Knowing what it takes to pick up a chick doesn't necessarily mean you'll fill in that dating void (unless all you want is the physical stuff). Developing game can translate into finding a way to act that attracts females, which can also translate into not being yourself. If you have to rid yourself of all of the little quirks and characteristics that make you YOU simply to get a specific girl, then you might find yourself in relationships with girls you aren't compatible with. Let's face it, pickup can become an act of complete calculation, which is obviously the opposite of being one's natural self. This can lead you into unsatisfying relationships.

 

[War Against Betaism]

As an aside, I'll go ahead and say that pickup skills do NOT always enhance your life. Knowing what it takes to pick up a chick doesn't necessarily mean you'll fill in that dating void (unless all you want is the physical stuff). Developing game can translate into finding a way to act that attracts females, which can also translate into not being yourself. If you have to rid yourself of all of the little quirks and characteristics that make you YOU simply to get a specific girl, then you might find yourself in relationships with girls you aren't compatible with. Let's face it, pickup can become an act of complete calculation, which is obviously the opposite of being one's natural self. This can lead you into unsatisfying relationships.

I can see you're new here. You'll learn the truth about this whole nonsense about "not being yourself" once you actually start getting girls. Being yourself is being an ignorant child who is naive of the world around him. People are so scared of losing what's really them. It's like saying you're scared of taking swimming lessons because you won't be yourself again. Sounds stupid, I know, that's how stupid this "not being yourself" charade thing is. Even if you do find yourself in this incompatible relationship, you'll learn the next time and become a better person so you won't commit to the same mistakes again.