Does being musically talented raise your status?

Does being musically talented raise your status? (non-celebrity).

  • Absolutely yes

    Votes: 30 60.0%
  • Absolutely no

    Votes: 3 6.0%
  • Depends on how you handle the attention

    Votes: 17 34.0%
  • Other - I will post my detailed answer below

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    50

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VU, don't forget the one-on-one "concert" in the living room. That, my friend, is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction. She will be completely under your spell. Somehow playing music for a woman bypasses all her critical filters and scores a direct hit on her attraction center.

I've noticed that even a little "concert" over the phone has the effect of massively upping your value in her eyes.

Ok, having said that, who would like to hire me for lessons? $200 per hour special for SS members. ;)
 

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Guys, many of you liked my idea of a Guitarists' accountability thread in "Anything Else".

Click on my signature and sign up if you're interested. I believe that the sense of accomplishment we can achieve by pursuing our craft can be a life-altering experience.

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Hit the link, and decide on a goal that is very do-able and that will guarantee success. You can always bump up the challenge as time goes on, but for now we want to breed a sense of success and accomplishment.

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The most famous example of a musical talent boosting sex appeal? Jon Mayer.

This guy doesn't exactly have supermodel looks. He suffered for many years with anxiety and panic attacks. Not exactly your typical alpha male. But take a look at the list of babes this dude has pumped and pumped. Pretty damn impressive if you ask me.

Music works because it is an art form that conveys strong emotions. Seeing as women are emotional creatures, this is one great way to move them and make their 'ginas tingle. This is why rock stars, who are often scrawny drug addicts that look like women can get laid like, well, rock stars.
 

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zekko said:
You're right in a way, but I'm not sure I would blame Nirvana for that. They just squeezed the last few drops that were left out of rock. Grunge was basically the second coming of punk - a revolt against the hair bands, just like punk was a revolt against the arena rockers. Everything had gone full circle, again.

When they killed off the guitar solo though, that was the end of rock. Rock had always had an instrumental section to it. Then people decided they didn't have the patience to listen to the instruments, they only wanted to hear the singing bits. So it was all dumbed down, the artistry was taken out of it, and we're left with what we have now.
Yea, that's my major gripe with todays bands. Thanks for pointing that out! There are some out there that have some cool tunes, but please just put a huge guitar solo or drum solo in there. It's just awesome. We need new guitar heroes. I can re-play my favorite solo's note for note in my head and they're often my favorite part of a song. Comfortably Numb is an awesome song, but it wouldn't be as great without the epic guitar outro. Same goes for pretty much every Zeppelin song.

Most likely, they don't care about rock bands because they don't sell. Just like how the big band era faded out. There's nothing new left in rock to be done. No matter what you want to hear, you can go back to listen to the classic bands to hear it.
I guess you're right. But I don't really know about that though. Guns n Roses was like Aerosmith on speed. Aerosmith was (and I'm going to be really careful here) obviously a more modern version of Zeppelin. You could just tell so clearly the connections between them. Zeppelin really started it all by doing everything right.

Curiously, while no one seems to care about listening to it, there are more bands out there than ever. I'm sure there are countless bands out there making good music. But none of them can achieve the popularity classic bands had, because rock is all washed up. It's not mainstream culture anymore. Everything they're doing is just echos of what's gone before.
I guess you're right man, and that's sad. :(

But still, man. If there's something out there that's as brilliant as the bands I mentioned before, there will be an audience. I mean, there's a reason why Guns n Roses emerged above the tons of bands that were out there back then in the 80's. They had something that was unique and hard to describe.

I mean, don't you think that a band with the same epicness, craziness and danger would work today? There's a reason why people still line up all around the world to see Ozzy although he's like 60 now.

Do you guys think that a completely new genre, one that we can't even imagine today, can emerge and take the world by storm as the other major genres have?
Look around you, it happened in less than ten years with techno not too long ago. This insane **** is more and more around in clubs right now, and it sounds ridiculous with the huge sound systems they have in these places. The bass literally rattles my organs. It drives people nuts and everyone goes crazy in their own weird way on it.

VU, don't forget the one-on-one "concert" in the living room. That, my friend, is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction. She will be completely under your spell. Somehow playing music for a woman bypasses all her critical filters and scores a direct hit on her attraction center.

I've noticed that even a little "concert" over the phone has the effect of massively upping your value in her eyes.

Ok, having said that, who would like to hire me for lessons? $200 per hour special for SS members.

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The most famous example of a musical talent boosting sex appeal? Jon Mayer.

This guy doesn't exactly have supermodel looks. He suffered for many years with anxiety and panic attacks. Not exactly your typical alpha male. But take a look at the list of babes this dude has pumped and pumped. Pretty damn impressive if you ask me.

Music works because it is an art form that conveys strong emotions. Seeing as women are emotional creatures, this is one great way to move them and make their 'ginas tingle. This is why rock stars, who are often scrawny drug addicts that look like women can get laid like, well, rock stars.
John Mayer is a pussay and not a sexual musician at all, if you compare the guy to dudes like Slash and the like. But yea, you're right. The guys in Motley Crue got laid too, and they looked like a bunch of cross-dressers who just slept on the streets for a week.
 

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snowdog said:
John Mayer is a pussay and not a sexual musician at all, if you compare the guy to dudes like Slash and the like. But yea, you're right. The guys in Motley Crue got laid too, and they looked like a bunch of cross-dressers who just slept on the streets for a week.
He isn't sexual in his songs....his songs are all about emotions and being sensitive and whatnot. But the ladies absolutely love that stuff and that's why this skinny dude with anxiety issues has managed to bang Jessica Simpson and many others.
 

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john mayers awesome. not only is he a great musician but hes funny too. some of his songs are sexual, listen to edge of desire.

also, its my biggest pet peeve when people talk about how rock n roll is dead. its not dead, you're just looking in the wrong place. wilco, my morning jacket, minus the bear, the mars volta all have amazing guitarists. dont turn on the radio and assume you are listening to all music has to offer. you got to dig. indie rock from the past decade is my favorite music of all time. when it comes to people like slash not existing anymore, the music industry is different now. people like slash don't exist because record companies dont want to put a bunch of money into a guy that looks like he'll od on heroine in a week. they have to make an investment on a musician and want to make sure they will be putting out records for a long time. it doesn't mean rock is dead, it just isn't as scummy as it used to be.
 

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oxford comma said:
also, its my biggest pet peeve when people talk about how rock n roll is dead. its not dead, you're just looking in the wrong place.
Totally agree.. notice how the guy who said this is 50 y/o. As if he's really taken the trouble to see what kind of music is really out there in the underground. Hell, even at my age, I am so out of touch. I have always found the best way to keep in touch with underground music is to have people show it to you. And once you get out of high school/colllege, it's hard to be in touch with those people.

For my part, I know I play stuff on guitar that no one else does. Even smashing pumpkins said that everything had already been done so they are just trying to combine elements of what's already been done. That's kind of what I do, just from very different places. As long as it's done in a genuine and fresh way there's still lots of ground there to be covered. Anyway the point is not so much to break new ground, as to do something that sounds fresh and is not completely redundant.
 

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omkara said:
Totally agree.. notice how the guy who said this is 50 y/o. As if he's really taken the trouble to see what kind of music is really out there in the underground.
Hold on there. I said there are a lot of bands out there making good music. But that they aren't in the mainstream anymore. Which is the same point you're making by saying it's in the underground. At one time you didn't have to dig to find it.

So why isn't it mainstream anymore? I'm saying a big part of the reason is because rock has run it's course. Everything has been done, not just once but several times. No one in this thread loves rock music more than I do, but all forms of music reach a peak and decline. Unfortunately, rock is in decline.
 

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Are you kidding me? The Mars Volta's guitarist is horrible. ^

And Motley Crue did dress like transvestites, but they were all good looking dudes (minus Mick Mars). Girls still think Tommy Lee and Nikki Sixx are super hot. And John Mayer isn't bad looking either. People make fun of him because he plays bish music, but the truth is he's one of the only blues guitarists that has made it big this day in age. Props to him.


And yes, rock has run it's course. From Elvis and Chuck Berry to extreme metal like Meshuggah and Dream Theater, I don't think there's much more we can do. Techno and rap will run it's course too. I'd say techno right now is about where rock was in the early 70s... HUGE. Techno started in the mid 80s, and it was underground until Moby came out in the 90s. Now we have techno "supergroups" like Above & Beyond, and huge festivals to accomodate them where sh*t is just totally hitting the fan. Much like a rock festival back in the day. It really is off the hook right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTDSbAJV-Rw
 

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It's hard for me to even see techno as new when I was listening to stuff like Kraftwerk back in the 70s. But with the computer revolution, the technology for making electronic music has vastly improved and has become much more accessible. So I'm not surprised to see it becoming more prevalant these days.
 

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its not dead, you're just looking in the wrong place. wilco, my morning jacket, minus the bear, the mars volta all have amazing guitarists.
Those guys are good, but boring. Really boring. There's nothing dangerous or exciting about them.

oxford comma said:
the music industry is different now. people like slash don't exist because record companies dont want to put a bunch of money into a guy that looks like he'll od on heroine in a week. they have to make an investment on a musician and want to make sure they will be putting out records for a long time. it doesn't mean rock is dead, it just isn't as scummy as it used to be.
And that's exactly why it used to be so awesome.

Back in the high days of rock, a band got a fanbase because their music was good. Not because their record company invested a lot of money into them. Music has become a product, and it's all about money (sorry to sound like a cliche). That's why it's so boring now. That's why a new 'artist' appears out of nowhere with a super expensive HD video clip and within a year no one remembers anymore who it was, cos there's a new one. They're products. Hell there's even product placement in video clips now, can you imagine that ****?

And yes, rock has run it's course. From Elvis and Chuck Berry to extreme metal like Meshuggah and Dream Theater, I don't think there's much more we can do. Techno and rap will run it's course too. I'd say techno right now is about where rock was in the early 70s... HUGE. Techno started in the mid 80s, and it was underground until Moby came out in the 90s. Now we have techno "supergroups" like Above & Beyond, and huge festivals to accomodate them where sh*t is just totally hitting the fan. Much like a rock festival back in the day. It really is off the hook right now:
That's an interesting thought.

There's already extreme **** like breakcore, jungle drum and bass, hardcore and all that stuff out, so I wonder how long techno will last. I really don't believe there's another 20 years left in it to be honest. I mean, I try to listen to it every once in a while, but it's just so utterly boring to me.

It's hard for me to even see techno as new when I was listening to stuff like Kraftwerk back in the 70s. But with the computer revolution, the technology for making electronic music has vastly improved and has become much more accessible. So I'm not surprised to see it becoming more prevalant these days.
Dude, in Europe, there seriously almost aren't any bands around anymore. Everyone wants to be a DJ instead of a rock star. And you can, if you have a computer.
 
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