Does anyone here still want to Find a Wife?

[RickTheToad]

A pre-nup is a great idea to help protect your assets. I recommend seeing a good family law attorney to draw up an ironclad one for you to present to your wife to be prior to. This is a very difficult thing to do, but if she truly cares about you, she will understand your reasoning for wanting one and it should be a non-issue. A caveat - most women will NOT understand though!

Many dudes cave when they bring up the pre-nup. My GF said she would, then as time wore on she said that if I made her sign one, that meant I didn't trust her. I said, no problem. Then you just sign the cohabitation agreement and no wedding or marriage. But I want one she said, well, then you would need to sign the pre-nup. Will it have a sunset clause? Nope. What if you leave me, well, anything is possible. However, stay feminine and in shape, we're good.

Lesson being, you need to keep the female in check. Any variation, she will attempt to take advantage of it.

 

[Barrister]

Many dudes cave when they bring up the pre-nup. My GF said she would, then as time wore on she said that if I made her sign one, that meant I didn't trust her. I said, no problem. Then you just sign the cohabitation agreement and no wedding or marriage. But I want one she said, well, then you would need to sign the pre-nup. Will it have a sunset clause? Nope. What if you leave me, well, anything is possible. However, stay feminine and in shape, we're good.

Lesson being, you need to keep the female in check. Any variation, she will attempt to take advantage of it.

I am just stating the obvious - but 99% of the time the woman has everything to gain and the man everything to lose by marrying. Of course she wants to be locked into absorbing 1/2 of everything you earn during the marriage. Why wouldn't she? At the end of the day this has nothing to do with your relationship and everything to do with her own personal security (sometimes even greed). Hence why you always can tell their true colors with the prenup -- if she truly cares about YOU she will sign it. Most will try the classic emotional blackmail tactic that your GF did -- "oh you must not really care about/love me if you are making me sign that!"

 

[RickTheToad]

I am just stating the obvious - but 99% of the time the woman has everything to gain and the man everything to lose by marrying. Of course she wants to be locked into absorbing 1/2 of everything you earn during the marriage. Why wouldn't she? At the end of the day this has nothing to do with your relationship and everything to do with her own personal security (sometimes even greed). Hence why you always can tell their true colors with the prenup -- if she truly cares about YOU she will sign it. Most will try the classic emotional blackmail tactic that your GF did -- "oh you must not really care about/love me if you are making me sign that!"

It's a shame it's come to this... Anything the gov't gets their hands in, they fvck up.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Does anyone here still want to Find a Wife?

Did you lose one?

 

[Am Shaegar]

Does anyone else here intend to get married? I'm just wondering what others have in mind to succeed in this modern world?

One day I will have a wife, but I will not rely on the governement or religion to safeguard my success as both have become corrupted and you would be a fool to use or agree to their version of marriage. If you are truly a traditionalist I would advise you to learn about your countries history. Marriage customs change over time and customs weren't just invented for no reason. For example weddings exist to have witnesses and as a warning to others not to get inbetween those two people. However if those witnesses are useless and broken vows remain unpunished, the wedding becomes pointless.

Also I am amazed how many men call themselve traditionalists, yet would marry below their status. Before WW2 it would have been an big and strong NO from the family if the heir wanted to marry a girl that dosn't have as much wealth as he has.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Yeah that is true. What I am saying though is for you in your understanding, you want to look at each component of a marriage yourself and see it like that. People, especially women, just see 'Marriage' as this special package or arrangement that is something natural and objective, so thats the mistake.

If you get 'married' you should remember that this is just a relationship like any other, and that it could end, or become boring. Just dont think you have entered some 'promised land' where everything will end happily ever after.

These women are so immature and egostical that many really just want the marriage and the ceremony because their egos are so small and their understanding so limited, really they just want the validation of society.

I'm very well aware of the risks, honestly not even all that bothered by it. I've been doing extensive research and have a free consultation scheduled with a Law firm here in Australia that specialises in family law/divorces. I aim to find out as much information as i can and how to best protect my assets, I've seen enough horror stories on the internet that i know what I'm in for. We men can't keep running from problems, we need to face them head on if we want to change society.

It's amazing isn't it? We are near the pinnacle of the most incredible civilization that humanity has ever created and now that things are not looking so good you read "enjoy the decline" on this board. Something as great as western civilization is worth fighting for, and I think that there are opportunities to be something great if whomever decides to put in the effort.

100% agree, we need to band together and make real changes. We can't just drop out of the whole game like MGTOWs and Monks, that's not going to fix things for the next generation.

I've already shared a bullet proof way to protect one's assets from divorce. It may not protect your income from child support though.

1) Prenup with each party covering their own medical and legal costs and fees. Income and assets not co-owned are to be treated as separate property.
2) All assets you have prior to marriage are spun-off and held in an irrevocable trust; preferably in another state.
3) Separate accounts and one joint account.

As for finding a female to marry, well, that's like finding a needle in a haystack these days.

To add to that, assets can be put in a fpreign trust or LLC that's outside US jurisdiction, if it's in someone elses name it isn't technically yours. I'm talking with a lawyer this weekend so i aim to find out more soon.

In 5-10, you‘ll be back here discussing your pending divorce.

Well at least i will have some good field reports, there's not much redpill marriage resources out there.

Have you made it through the honeymoon phase and into normal waters and seen that there are no major red flags popping up? A lot of women can hide these for a solid 4-6 months exclusivity (not just casual dating). You need at least that amount of time but preferably at least a full year before you consider marriage with a woman.

Well the woman my father recommended was someone i knew since childhood, in my culture there's no real dating at all you basically just have courtship then ask her father for permission to marry her. Of course there's more risks with this and it's harder to vet but this is the only way to find a traditional woman.

You are already planning to cheat and commit adultery against your future wife with 2 to 3 other women? Dont get married if you think about rotations.

It's completely natural and normal, we have twice as many female ancestors because our male ancestors mostly had multiple wives.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Yes. I want a wife but only because that’s the best environment for raising children.

If the conversation turns into “shielding assets” you aren’t in the frame of mind to ever have a wife.

Co-signing @RickTheToad about weddings. They bring out her inner monster. My lady who has no debt and an 800 credit score clowns some acquaintances that went into debt over a wedding.

Once I proposed to her, she miraculously did a 180 and suddenly wanted a big wedding. I said fine, but you’re paying for all of it and I’m not starting a marriage with debt. Two months later reality is steadily chipping away at her pipe dream.

It’s amazing how deranged they can be.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Once I proposed to her, she miraculously did a 180 and suddenly wanted a big wedding. I said fine, but you’re paying for all of it and I’m not starting a marriage with debt. Two months later reality is steadily chipping away at her pipe dream.

It’s tradition for the bride’s family to pay for the ceremony venue, while the groom would pay for the celebrant and the marriage license. No idea why some men today pay for the entire wedding.

If the conversation turns into “shielding assets” you aren’t in the frame of mind to ever have a wife

I disagree, it's important for a man to be prepared since the woman you marry today may not be the same in 15 years time.

I live in Australia, I'm pretty sure it will soon be a crime to be a straight male here. With how Anti male the laws are here, men need to be vigilant.

 

[corrector]

It's completely natural and normal, we have twice as many female ancestors because our male ancestors mostly had multiple wives.

You cant have a real marriage if that is your mindset. Are you okay with your wife also cheating on you too?

Dont get why you want a fake marriage. I would feel bad for your kids.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It’s tradition for the bride’s family to pay for the ceremony venue, while the groom would pay for the celebrant and the marriage license. No idea why some men today pay for the entire wedding.

Correct. However, in the west there is an epidemic of women who do not come from money who still feel entitled to rich girl weddings. Their expectations need to be destroyed. Society is lying to these broads.

I disagree, it's important for a man to be prepared since the woman you marry today may not be the same in 15 years time.

That’s fine- but “shielding assets” represents a fundamental misunderstanding about what marriage is. When you pick a wife, you are voluntarily agreeing to shared provisioning. Every dollar you make from that point on is also hers. If that leaves a bad taste in your mouth stay clear!

 

[Zimbabwe]

That’s fine- but “shielding assets” represents a fundamental misunderstanding about what marriage is. When you pick a wife, you are voluntarily agreeing to shared provisioning. Every dollar you make from that point on is also hers. If that leaves a bad taste in your mouth stay clear!

Any pre marital assets will be mine and mine alone, I don't mind sharing assets after marriage. It's just that i don't want to end up like those guys that lose everything after a divorce.

Correct. However, in the west there is an epidemic of women who do not come from money who still feel entitled to rich girl weddings. Their expectations need to be destroyed. Society is lying to these broads

Never got why women even want big weddings, why do you need to be in a room with 200 other people who mostly couldn't care less.

You cant have a real marriage if that is your mindset. Are you okay with your wife also cheating on you too?

Dont get why you want a fake marriage. I would feel bad for your kids.

If i don't have a rotation with other women, i will get oneitis. Most of my hobbies are pretty solitary and I don't have any real interest in making male friends unless I'm getting some benefit out of it. I enjoy spending time with new women.

If I'm not out sleeping with other girls i would be home all day with my future wife or at the gym.

 

[zekko]

If i don't have a rotation with other women, i will get oneitis.

I'm not sure if this is an indication of weakness, or just a really weak excuse.

 

[metalwater]

I'm most likely in the minority here but I still aim to find a Good wife in this Modern Dating climate. I come from a culture that has a very strong emphasis on family/tradition, I've never agreed with the whole western/Anglosphere "dating" thing which I feel benefits women and gays.

I'm not going to be a slave to the Degenerate nonsense that is the western dating market but at the same time I'm not limiting myself to a blue pill fantasy from my cultural heritage. The aim is to tske the best aspects of both markets and apply them to myself.

The first thing I aim to do is cover all bases, look for any sort of legal loophole to protect me from having my assets stolen in the event of a divorce, I will share what ever i find with this forum. The second thing is I'm going to look for potential wives, my father has suggested our old neighbours daughter who is also from the same culture as us.

To ensure I don't ever become complacent, I'm going to build up a rotation of at least 2-3 other women, that way I always have options and don't spend too much time at home with my future wife.

Does anyone else here intend to get married? I'm just wondering what others have in mind to succeed in this modern world?

it can be done.

- rule with an iron fist. do not abuse her, but be the king.
- become immune to shame
- understand her biology (really understand) some of her crap just ignore it.
- do not let other men disrespect you (especially in her presence). these occurrences can not be undone and they are cumulative.
- her time and efforts are accountable to you. this is a pre-requisite for the position, no free-range gals need to apply.
- you ENSURE her safety.
- stay sexually healthy

failure to do any of these and an LTR will not work out. everyone in the forum has failed at one or more of these. most of these go against the herd chant.

no need to worry about dread game or other trick and tools if we do all the things on the list. we do the other things when we fail at something on the list as a way to try to patch things. if she thinks the list is too restrictive, let her be someone else's problem.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I'm not sure if this is an indication of weakness, or just a really weak excuse.

I thought of modifying it actually, I will still Game other women to keep my skills sharp but I won't sleep with them.

it can be done.

- rule with an iron fist. do not abuse her, but be the king.
- become immune to shame
- understand her biology (really understand) some of her crap just ignore it.
- do not let other men disrespect you (especially in her presence). these occurrences can not be undone and they are cumulative.
- her time and efforts are accountable to you. this is a pre-requisite for the position, no free-range gals need to apply.
- you ENSURE her safety.
- stay sexually healthy

failure to do any of these and an LTR will not work out. everyone in the forum has failed at one or more of these. most of these go against the herd chant.

no need to worry about dread game or other trick and tools if we do all the things on the list. we do the other things when we fail at something on the list as a way to try to patch things. if she thinks the list is too restrictive, let her be someone else's problem.

You are definitely 100% right, the game does not end during a ltr. A marriage is only the beginning.

Too many guys get complacent and lazy, that's what leads to their downfall.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Any pre marital assets will be mine and mine alone, I don't mind sharing assets after marriage. It's just that i don't want to end up like those guys that lose everything after a divorce.

That’s how it works in the US state I live in. Pre-marital assets are just that. Unless you go let your wife mess with it. Which a lot of guys do

 

[RickTheToad]

Correct. However, in the west there is an epidemic of women who do not come from money who still feel entitled to rich girl weddings. Their expectations need to be destroyed. Society is lying to these broads.



That’s fine- but “shielding assets” represents a fundamental misunderstanding about what marriage is. When you pick a wife, you are voluntarily agreeing to shared provisioning. Every dollar you make from that point on is also hers. If that leaves a bad taste in your mouth stay clear!

That's bullsh!t and you know it. As a fellow one time New Yorker, we had this thing call cause divorce. Whereas, there has to be a legal reason why two people were to be divorced. This was to protect the institution of marriage. This slowly went away in 1971 (or so) when then CA Gov. Ronald Reagan passed no-fault divorce so he can divorce his 1st wife. He later stated this was one of his biggest mistakes as CA governor. New York was the last hold out for no-fault divorce. Yet, blind as a bat Gov. David Paterson signed it into law in 2010.

In layman's terms, @EyeBRollin, if you marry Bubble Butt Betty and she changes her mind, she can wipe you clean for no reason. If this gamble, hey go for it. I prefer to go in with protection. These days, the pre-nup and IRT are the only things that keeps the other party in check. Pre-nups and IRTs are like bazookas.. It's nice to have, and you hope you never have to use it. Don't be stupid and believe that love will get you through everything. Especially with a NYC female.

 

[RickTheToad]

I'm very well aware of the risks, honestly not even all that bothered by it. I've been doing extensive research and have a free consultation scheduled with a Law firm here in Australia that specialises in family law/divorces. I aim to find out as much information as i can and how to best protect my assets, I've seen enough horror stories on the internet that i know what I'm in for. We men can't keep running from problems, we need to face them head on if we want to change society.



100% agree, we need to band together and make real changes. We can't just drop out of the whole game like MGTOWs and Monks, that's not going to fix things for the next generation.



To add to that, assets can be put in a fpreign trust or LLC that's outside US jurisdiction, if it's in someone elses name it isn't technically yours. I'm talking with a lawyer this weekend so i aim to find out more soon.



Well at least i will have some good field reports, there's not much redpill marriage resources out there.




Well the woman my father recommended was someone i knew since childhood, in my culture there's no real dating at all you basically just have courtship then ask her father for permission to marry her. Of course there's more risks with this and it's harder to vet but this is the only way to find a traditional woman.




It's completely natural and normal, we have twice as many female ancestors because our male ancestors mostly had multiple wives.

Look into Cook Island Trusts. It's pricey to setup, but supposedly the best.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Pre-nups and IRTs are like bazookas.. It's nice to have, and you hope you never have to use it. Don't be stupid and believe that love will get you through everything.

Pre nups don't even hold up in Australian courts, they are almost always overtuned because the women claim they were "forced" into signing it.

We need something like this Church in modern day society to fix the divorce problem

 

[metalwater]

That’s fine- but “shielding assets” represents a fundamental misunderstanding about what marriage is. When you pick a wife, you are voluntarily agreeing to shared provisioning. Every dollar you make from that point on is also hers. If that leaves a bad taste in your mouth stay clear!

no, I understand your viewpoint but disagree.

the whole idea that women and men are equal is wrong at a very deep level. both God and Evolution know they are different. both have equivalent values, but they are not equal.

I do... believe in forcing men to keep their integrity and promises and I assume that is an unpopular view. and also women should keep agreements. A woman should be entitled to whatever she has earned plus anything she already had minus the cost of her care if she wishes to leave the contract and nothing more. if the man chooses to break the contract WITHOUT cause then he should be responsible for her RESONABLE care until she is acquired by another.

why do you think women should get paid for leaving?

 

[EyeBRollin]

why do you think women should get paid for leaving?

I don’t.