Do you want chicks to turn their heads?

[White_Italian]

Originally posted by Soprano
I've been hitting the gym regularly for about a year now. Unlike a lot of ppl here I actually started out really big. Now after building up a lot of upper body muscle I'm tryin to cut down on a lot of this annoying fat.

Fatasses like yourself have it easier when it comes to bodybuilding than skinny guys.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

Originally posted by White_Italian
Fatasses like yourself have it easier when it comes to bodybuilding than skinny guys.

You're dam-n right they do! All they have to do is start working out.... us skinny guys have to eat like motherfu-ckers if we want to gain a single ounce.

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
You know what though, I was browsing manhaters.com just for the hel-l of it, and I came upon a poll women had taken regarding muscles. I forget the exact percentages, but around 75% of the women didn't care much about muscles, as long as the guy's other qualities were attractive. Some of the women posted that they hated those men who became obsessed with muscle and did nothing but work out. Now, I'm not saying it is bad to have muscle, but if that's all you think it takes to get women (and KEEP them), you're in trouble. A woman can spot a "tryhard" when she sees one.

lol, what a crock. do you really believe it when a woman says she doesnt care about muscles? the only reason they say that is because they dont want to be seen as shallow. now if you observed a girls actions, you will see that she would initially be attracted to a guy with muscular proportions moreso than a skinny or fat guy. and besides, a lot of guys here have good personalities and character, but their bodies hinder their success with some of the most desirable women because they, in truth, are VERY SHALLOW! despite what they say, building your body is not tryhard. Ask Jariel, Mom, Strong like bull, jprjrjr, and all the other big guys here and all of them will tell you that their increased mass indirectly or directly contributed to their success with women and life in general.

AND one more thing, ignore all those anecdotes about someones best friend's very fat or very skinny cousin pulling ass because

1) it may not be true, or they may be exagerating the quantity or quality of women they are pulling

2) they may have a very good looking face, which compensates for their body

3) they may have very witty personalities and are networked to a lot of people beginning from grade school.

So assuming none of the above apply to the rest of us skinny and fat guys, there should be no reason why we shoudnt work to improve ourselves, especially if some of us have low-self esteem

 

[pimpfromdayone]

I understand your point, and yes, girls are shallow and stupid like that, but, let me put it another way:
Do you WANT to be with shallow girls? I don't.
That settles that part.
Building your body is not tryhard no..... but it is tryhard if you have nothing else going for you and all you do is go around in muscle shirts flexing your muscles. You might get some pus-sy, sure, but nothing that another 100 muscular men haven't already fuc-ked.

When I mentioned the fat and skinny guy stuff, I was talking from direct observation, no stories or anything. So rule number 1 and number 2 out.
# 3 however is probably dead on, because yes, they owe almost all of their success to their social abilities, and possibly some personality, but that's it.
I am all for self-improvement, and I wasn't saying you shouldn't work out. My main point was that there are a lot of men out there who have nothing but muscle and that is the only area they want to improve in, so they are either getting incredibly shallow slu-ts, or nothing at all. Believe what you want though, I don't care. I just know WAY too many dumbasses who think muscle is going to get them laid, and, not surprisingly, it doesn't.... in fact I have had my skinny ass in the same situations with girls as they have, and who do the girls want? Me. Perhaps because I am not obsessed with muscle and there is no indication I am insecure about myself? Go figure.

I have said it once, but here goes again: if you have low self-esteem, you need to start feeling good about who you ALREADY are. If you have low confidence and are insecure when you have no muscle, who is to say you'll be happy after you get muscle? You might just become more and more obsessed with getting bigger (as some have) and it becomes impossible for you to be happy with your current body. You probably don't understand what I am saying, but that's ok, it doesn't matter.

 

[Broham]

^^^Agreed^^^

I'm gonna play devil's advocate as well here. I've been working out consistently for almost 3 years now. It has done wonders for my confidence and has helped me become more Alpha. However, being jacked isn't the end-all, be-all of getting girls. Its just one of many means to an end in the attraction game. I know alpha males who aren't muscular at all, some who are short, ugly, etc...but they have killer game and/or social proof.

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
I understand your point, and yes, girls are shallow and stupid like that, but, let me put it another way:
Do you WANT to be with shallow girls? I don't.
That settles that part.
Building your body is not tryhard no..... but it is tryhard if you have nothing else going for you and all you do is go around in muscle shirts flexing your muscles. You might get some pus-sy, sure, but nothing that another 100 muscular men haven't already fuc-ked.

When I mentioned the fat and skinny guy stuff, I was talking from direct observation, no stories or anything. So rule number 1 and number 2 out.
# 3 however is probably dead on, because yes, they owe almost all of their success to their social abilities, and possibly some personality, but that's it.
I am all for self-improvement, and I wasn't saying you shouldn't work out. My main point was that there are a lot of men out there who have nothing but muscle and that is the only area they want to improve in, so they are either getting incredibly shallow slu-ts, or nothing at all. Believe what you want though, I don't care. I just know WAY too many dumbasses who think muscle is going to get them laid, and, not surprisingly, it doesn't.... in fact I have had my skinny ass in the same situations with girls as they have, and who do the girls want? Me. Perhaps because I am not obsessed with muscle and there is no indication I am insecure about myself? Go figure.

I have said it once, but here goes again: if you have low self-esteem, you need to start feeling good about who you ALREADY are. If you have low confidence and are insecure when you have no muscle, who is to say you'll be happy after you get muscle? You might just become more and more obsessed with getting bigger (as some have) and it becomes impossible for you to be happy with your current body. You probably don't understand what I am saying, but that's ok, it doesn't matter.

For a lot of guys, a healthy gain of 20 lbs muscle mass will do wonders for their confidence. If you look good, you feel good, and women will feel good when they are around you.

I suppose if you hit the gym and added some bulk, you would be pulling ass a lot easier than you would right now having to "spit game" at every girl to get in her pants. Of course, you should balance it out by meeting new people and networking so that you can increase your social circle, but having a physique that people would respect and the personality to go with it would make you unstoppable.

The only guys with muscles that are having no success with women are those who are overly ****y and concieted, the ones that have the success with them are those who are more humble and subtle around people, because they KNOW they are THE PRIZE.

You have a good personality pimp, so imagine the difference a hard chizeled body would make for you

 

[pimpfromdayone]

Perhaps
I have done a bit of working out myself (I have a bench press and olympic barbell in my basement), but I don't have the "macho" look, as much as I try I would never get there, plus I don't want to get there because I don't think it would go well with my relatively small head (lol).... I have the "athletic" look.... you know, skinniness combined with some lean muscle, the kind of guy that has veins visible on his forearms when he does the least bit of work, upper arms that fit perfectly and look great in polo shirt, etc. Everyone knows the six-pack is one of the hardest things to obtain (for most people), but here is one area where skinny guys have a BIG advantage. Fellas, I wasn't knocking weightlifting, I was just saying you have to balance it with other things in your life. However you get confidence, go for it, I will shut up now.

 

[sstype]

and the quote this from someone from bodybuilding.com

IF A GIRL IS NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU.....

"ITS NOT YOUR MUSCLES. ITS YOU"

 

[He Man Woman Hater]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
I understand your point, and yes, girls are shallow and stupid like that, but, let me put it another way:
Do you WANT to be with shallow girls? I don't.
That settles that part.
Building your body is not tryhard no..... but it is tryhard if you have nothing else going for you and all you do is go around in muscle shirts flexing your muscles. You might get some pus-sy, sure, but nothing that another 100 muscular men haven't already fuc-ked.

When I mentioned the fat and skinny guy stuff, I was talking from direct observation, no stories or anything. So rule number 1 and number 2 out.
# 3 however is probably dead on, because yes, they owe almost all of their success to their social abilities, and possibly some personality, but that's it.
I am all for self-improvement, and I wasn't saying you shouldn't work out. My main point was that there are a lot of men out there who have nothing but muscle and that is the only area they want to improve in, so they are either getting incredibly shallow slu-ts, or nothing at all. Believe what you want though, I don't care. I just know WAY too many dumbasses who think muscle is going to get them laid, and, not surprisingly, it doesn't.... in fact I have had my skinny ass in the same situations with girls as they have, and who do the girls want? Me. Perhaps because I am not obsessed with muscle and there is no indication I am insecure about myself? Go figure.

I have said it once, but here goes again: if you have low self-esteem, you need to start feeling good about who you ALREADY are. If you have low confidence and are insecure when you have no muscle, who is to say you'll be happy after you get muscle? You might just become more and more obsessed with getting bigger (as some have) and it becomes impossible for you to be happy with your current body. You probably don't understand what I am saying, but that's ok, it doesn't matter.

good points

also a small head is ideal for bodybuilding. it makes everything else look bigger