do you think there is different class in every men?

[moneyisking]

Let me tell yal something to start with. In my opinion: in reality, it is impossible to see Vincent Masuka or Shane McGowan with Natalie Portman or Sofia Vergara kissing in public. But you expect to see Gael Garcia Bernal or Bradley Cooper with them. Why is this? it's a little depressing, but i will have to write this to see what some wise men on this forum thinks. The Question is: Are there different classes in men that he can't do nothing about?

Yesterday, I was working on my part-time serving job at a restaurant, and I saw one HOT HOT HOT blond cutie dressed in white sundress walking into the bar section. I looked at her and smiled, and she smiled back. Then came in some late 20ish looking 6'0" white guy with Richard Nixon hairdo came in and in fact was her man. Now I work at restaurants so I see lot of couples and I can tell you that every good-looking, average-or-taller, majority of whites get real fine top notch cuties. But I never, repeat, NEVER seen an average Joe with a beautiful woman. Usually it's the plane Jane or little less than average girl he is with.

I know this basketball player at my college; a good looking, tall, black fella, and he dates this gorgeous cheerleader. I also know couple of really good looking dudes that go out with some of world's hottest girls I know. i also go to parties, and there I see average guy like myself don't get attention from girls. But the good-looking fellas always have some cute women in his arms. Guys, is there different classes every men are put into mostly from physical attributes, and can we do anything about it? (for those who will say gym, I been lifting for 3 yrs and asian) also you can tell me you saw some ugly fella with some hot girl, but mind me, I never saw one.

 

[Strelok]

What do you expect us to say? it doesnt need a scientist to say that people with good genetic is able to attract people with good genetic and they are an exclusive
club where you dont enter by invite.

Most of the guys fail to realize that crap like "every man is equal" doesnt have any meaning outside the academic world, you know those guys who spend all the day aroung a table and find the most strange explanations to things clear even to a redneck.

There is a hierarchy, it's made of look (body,hair,race etc), status (fame,money,populatiry etc) and character (what you are inside).

Point is those 3 features follow an order,nobody give a flying fvck about how cool you are if you're short and fat,joe pesci is very famous yet he is not fvcking models,the muscular
surfer on the beach is doing it.
Even if you are dumb or egoistic but you're good looking and popular you still get more than people who are more clever and rich than you but failed the look check.

Now lets take a look about those guys you talk about, they are tall and good looking, white (cultural status bonus) but you dont know how they are personally.
Does it makes sense compared to what I said?

For all those things regarding game, quite sincerly I doubt an ugly fat guy with game is gonna score more than a handsome one, maybe he is gonna score more than an other ugly guy with no game at all.

 

[Ease]

Terrible call by strelok, money and fame like that can make the ugliest guy look like a dream hunk.

Joe Pesci's ex-fiance: http://www.wallpaperpimper.com/wall...rt/Angie-Everhart-1-Big-Smile-1-1600x1200.jpg

I'm not going into the 'looks vs everything else debate', but money and fame make a guy more attractive than anything in the world.

 

[jammy1257]

I hate to say it but I have found from life experience that Strelok and moneyisking are correct! It is mostly looks, that gets the most attention from girls same with guys, it's the looks that gets the guys attracted in the first place.

 

[EvilAgenda]

You didn't mention that most good looking guys have confidence and natural charm that develops because of their good looks.

Looks get you noticed. Most times looks aren't the deal breaker though.

And to answer you, there are two classes to men - Leader and Follower. That's it. It just happens that good looking guys develop natural charm and confidence to be leaders, while the rest of the men remain glued to their computers.

 

[moneyisking]

it seems complicated... i can only say that... it's better to let it go and just be better in person; although i may never get a hot blond babe in my life who is with the tall, good looking guy, maybe it could be a different story if i be better person and make money after college. yal four inputs had me think some lot. thanks

 

[Strelok]

Terrible call by strelok, money and fame like that can make the ugliest guy look like a dream hunk.

Joe Pesci's ex-fiance: http://www.wallpaperpimper.com/wall...rt/Angie-Everhart-1-Big-Smile-1-1600x1200.jpg

I'm not going into the 'looks vs everything else debate', but money and fame make a guy more attractive than anything in the world.

Pesci, then 64, became engaged to actress/model Angie Everhart, who was 37 at the time.[5] However, according to Everhart, they were never actually engaged. They announced their breakup in April 2008. He was also good friends with his My Cousin Vinny co-star Fred Gwynne.

So how a fake engagement to get both on gossip newspaper contradict what I said? A 37 yrs old actress who realize she is expired and an old actor who appearing only in b-movies decide to pretend to stay togheter in order to be seeing on some drama newspaper.

You can bvlssh1t yourself how much you want, certain things are either given to you from nature or you'll never get them.
Sorry to kill the hopes of many guys here but better to deal with reality, if you're rich and famous you can get the girl to pretend to love you but she is still gonna fvck
the handsome pool guy.

 

[Ease]

So how a fake engagement to get both on gossip newspaper contradict what I said? A 37 yrs old actress who realize she is expired and an old actor who appearing only in b-movies decide to pretend to stay togheter in order to be seeing on some drama newspaper.

You can bvlssh1t yourself how much you want, certain things are either given to you from nature or you'll never get them.
Sorry to kill the hopes of many guys here but better to deal with reality, if you're rich and famous you can get the girl to pretend to love you but she is still gonna fvck
the handsome pool guy.

The handsome pool guy has no chance of competing when a movie star enters the room. The wife cheating on the rich husband depends on whether or not the man is a weak chode, weak chodes will get cheated on if there rich or not.

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman. And i dont care for gossip, point is he was tapping that and your statement was false.

 

[Credos]

an old actor who appearing only in b-movies

You did not just call goodfellas, casino and raging bull b-movies in one line? :trouble:

 

[loveshogun]

You put up a fine question for a socio-economic commentary, Moneyisking, however, at this point in your DJ development, it would do you better to think less about these things, and more about how to improve yourself.

Short answer - yes, there are different classes of men. We're all born equal, but we don't stay that way. You've gotta work to make up the difference.

May "sound unfair" - but it only sounds that way. Really, if you think about it, this is ultimate fairness - people end up getting what they can get at a given time. This is because nature doesn't play by our rules. We've all gotta work at it.

Just because something makes you sad, doesn't make it unfair. This is something a lot of people have to learn early on. You're past that point now, but you still gotta keep moving.

 

[Strelok]

The handsome pool guy has no chance of competing when a movie star enters the room. The wife cheating on the rich husband depends on whether or not the man is a weak chode, weak chodes will get cheated on if there rich or not.

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman. And i dont care for gossip, point is he was tapping that and your statement was false.

He wasnt tapping that it was a fake relationship just get attention,did you read what I posted.
Common for once famous actors and old actresses to pretend to be togheter just to get attention,it's probably what cloney and that italian girl did.
Hugh Efner does say anything to you? according to your definition he is the ultimate catch,yet his previous "3 girlfriends" said it was a fake for tv and they werent even having sex.

The wife cheating on the husband happens anytime she is not attracted to him, do you think that those young girls woody allen has have sex with him only?
Or do you think your average friend win the lottery then all the girls he get after are gonna be faitful to him? come on man fairy tales are for kids.
My statemen is based on common sense not on hopes or trying to see things "fair".
The handsome pool guy is gonna get the girl if the movie star that enter the room is some old ugly man,he is gonna get his chance right after the girl had her picture with the star.

You did not just call goodfellas, casino and raging bull b-movies in one line? :trouble:

I mean the movie he is doing in his late career of course movies like the ones you named are masterpieces however they are very old, the guy now is doing only secondary stuff.

 

[Rubirosa]

You didn't mention that most good looking guys have confidence and natural charm that develops because of their good looks.

Looks get you noticed. Most times looks aren't the deal breaker though.

And to answer you, there are two classes to men - Leader and Follower. That's it. It just happens that good looking guys develop natural charm and confidence to be leaders, while the rest of the men remain glued to their computers.

These are pretty fair statements. My best friend in high school was the best looking guy in school. He would make a semi humourous statement or joke, and the circle of chicks around him would laugh like hell, so my friend started to think that he was a great comedian !
I think I'm a handsome guy, but I wasn't in the same league as he was back then. However through the years, I actually, many times, had a hotter chick than he did. IMO at least. Why ?
I feel that it was because I was an all around better package....This had nothing to do with money. Just everything else...........
I also believe that there's a third class of men...Loners (Too stong willed to be led, yet not caring enough to be leaders....)

 

[thevilittletroll]

let me just say that first off looks really dont matter all that much, at least to a large % of women out there. good looks help but they are not the end all be all. unfortunately women do see different values that makes us more attractive. personality & charisma is the number one thing most women find attractive regardless of your looks. think about napolean he was short an unattractive but he was a confident and fearless leader who had a huge amount of personality and charisma and got ass like crazy. women do find value in other things as well like looks, money, status & sense of humor. thats why when you are in the attraction phase its important to show her you are a man of higher value.

i made up a routine i use in pickup sometimes and it opened my eyes. i would ask the girl rank these 5 things in order from 1 to 5, 1 being the most important thing to you in your perfect man. this was the usual ranking

1. personality 99% of all women asked ranked this #1
2. sex
3. looks
4. money
5. religion/politics

fun game to play, whatever they pick just try and debate with them and try to get them to change their opinion.

 

[moneyisking]

guys we need to consider what evilagenda stated. although all of you're correct since what works for you, works for you; but what he said seemed as a fact. when girls are young, we all know this... they are stupid. thus, they seem to become lot more attracted to better looking guys than average or ugly ones no matter how badazz they are inside. Hence, since a lot of attention are given to these good looking fellas, they gain confidence and do excel in lot of areas in life. we all know life is not just carnal bodies living; it's the soul and spirit and something beyond that are controlled by the higher being and also by our own mind. and thus my point that having such high interest and attention from opposite sex makes the man more confident and thus affect every other areas of life. i know couple of guys who are highly motivated, have rock-solid attitude, never settle for less than what he intended for, never gives up, etc. They do great in school, work, family, everything; and guess what. they are the standard-good-looking fellas. of course, there are very few exceptions... such as napoleon himself. but as i said... those are the EXCEPTIONS. but i do believe that it doesn't matter very much. i didn't get the best looks, but i consider myself handsome (i have to ) and only improve for better.

 

[TheJazz]

No no no! Women are different! They're entirely sexual creatures, my friend. They see beauty differently than we do. We often judge women based on looks. A few AFCs deny that here and there, but it's true. We all want the "HB11" at the end of the day. Hot face, hot bod, hot everything. Women see and judge guys differently; on a more sexual level. If a male is more of a man (more sexual, embraces his sexuality more), he will end up with a female who is more of a woman (more feminine, more "innocent", more attractive). It's the simple law of nature. MEN are attracted to WOMEN. All the "hot guys" in the "good class" are just men. They're manly, they're masculine, and that's why they end up with the hot, feminine chicks.

 

[Ease]

He wasnt tapping that it was a fake relationship just get attention,did you read what I posted.
Common for once famous actors and old actresses to pretend to be togheter just to get attention,it's probably what cloney and that italian girl did.
Hugh Efner does say anything to you? according to your definition he is the ultimate catch,yet his previous "3 girlfriends" said it was a fake for tv and they werent even having sex.

The wife cheating on the husband happens anytime she is not attracted to him, do you think that those young girls woody allen has have sex with him only?
Or do you think your average friend win the lottery then all the girls he get after are gonna be faitful to him? come on man fairy tales are for kids.
My statemen is based on common sense not on hopes or trying to see things "fair".
The handsome pool guy is gonna get the girl if the movie star that enter the room is some old ugly man,he is gonna get his chance right after the girl had her picture with the star.


I mean the movie he is doing in his late career of course movies like the ones you named are masterpieces however they are very old, the guy now is doing only secondary stuff.

You are a disillusioned man. The world is run by men of power, a handsome pool boy can shine my shoes and bow before a man like joe pesci. Like i said unless joe pesci is a massive weak chode who cowers at the sight of the pool boy, no man or woman would question who has authority over the other.

Masculinity is defined by certain things in our world: Physical strength, money, power and influence. The last three are all synonyms of eachother anyway. When you look at a man who is about to start a fight with you, you look at his size, strength and status. That instinct of judging and weighing up our opponents and male competition when we meet them is the surest way of determining who is on top of who. You might treat a man who is rich nicely so he drops some money on you, just like a goldigging woman does. But we are talking about the male instinct of determining the alpha dog in a group, the boss, the leader, the most masculine. The one you fear that could harm your career, or the one who could beat you up in a fight if you rub him the wrong way.

And the way men see other men is no different than the way women look at men. The top dog, biggest man is the top of the food chain for male and female dominance.

So **** that noise about handsome pool boys, you have no understanding.

 

[EvilAgenda]

I also believe that there's a third class of men...Loners (Too stong willed to be led, yet not caring enough to be leaders....)

You bring up a good third class, Rubirosa.

Cause eventually catches up with a loner, and requests him to either stand up and lead or withdraw back and waste the rest of the gift that life has given him.

So a loner is just in the stage of choosing one class or the other. To the loners who question themselves, you ARE GOOD enough. So lead and live.

 

[Jaylan]

You are a disillusioned man. The world is run by men of power, a handsome pool boy can shine my shoes and bow before a man like joe pesci. Like i said unless joe pesci is a massive weak chode who cowers at the sight of the pool boy, no man or woman would question who has authority over the other.

Sorry but if the man with power is some unattractive old dude or just plain ugly, it doesnt matter the power he wields. It would be fair to say the suave lower class dude with good looks could still bed his girl. He wouldnt be able to steal her, but most certainly screw I would say. And say a good looking guy had decent status himself she would prolly bounce on the first guy in that situation.

Masculinity is defined by certain things in our world: Physical strength, money, power and influence. The last three are all synonyms of eachother anyway. When you look at a man who is about to start a fight with you, you look at his size, strength and status. That instinct of judging and weighing up our opponents and male competition when we meet them is the surest way of determining who is on top of who. You might treat a man who is rich nicely so he drops some money on you, just like a goldigging woman does. But we are talking about the male instinct of determining the alpha dog in a group, the boss, the leader, the most masculine. The one you fear that could harm your career, or the one who could beat you up in a fight if you rub him the wrong way.

Despite any of this looks play a role first and guys can do well just off that. I have seen dudes who drive a hooptie, have a typical blue collar job, not much in the bank, but good looks clean up with girls in the bar or club. Plus these dudes knew how to dress on the weekends. And even guys with little game, if they are super good looking, will have girls just throwing themselves at them.

One of my wingmen is like this. Hes very laid back and lets women assert themselves because he knows hes good looking and that they will come to him.

And the way men see other men is no different than the way women look at men. The top dog, biggest man is the top of the food chain for male and female dominance.

So **** that noise about handsome pool boys, you have no understanding.

Id say you dont actually xD. Power dont mean the hot guy couldnt smash the same gal on sheer sexuality alone.

bold. I agree with OP and Strelok

 

[Strelok]

You are a disillusioned man. The world is run by men of power, a handsome pool boy can shine my shoes and bow before a man like joe pesci. Like i said unless joe pesci is a massive weak chode who cowers at the sight of the pool boy, no man or woman would question who has authority over the other.

Masculinity is defined by certain things in our world: Physical strength, money, power and influence. The last three are all synonyms of eachother anyway. When you look at a man who is about to start a fight with you, you look at his size, strength and status. That instinct of judging and weighing up our opponents and male competition when we meet them is the surest way of determining who is on top of who. You might treat a man who is rich nicely so he drops some money on you, just like a goldigging woman does. But we are talking about the male instinct of determining the alpha dog in a group, the boss, the leader, the most masculine. The one you fear that could harm your career, or the one who could beat you up in a fight if you rub him the wrong way.

And the way men see other men is no different than the way women look at men. The top dog, biggest man is the top of the food chain for male and female dominance.

So **** that noise about handsome pool boys, you have no understanding.

Me disillusioned? if believing the stuff the pick-up gurus tell men to sell their material makes you feel good then keep thinking like that.
I mean who would buy double your dating from deangelo if the dogma of game who overpower look wouldnt exist.

We are not talking about the worth of man in this world we are talking about what turns a girl on, the top dogs you talk about and who are worshipped in this forum can get the girl to stay with them but they cannot have the girl to stop fvcking the handsome pool guy.

Hey listen here have you ever heard a goodlooking girl who marry a famous man divorce take away money from him and then get fvcked from the handsome pool guy? or the bodyguard or the yoga trainer?
Seriously I cant believe we are having this talking.

The female desire to mate with the alpha dog isnt in conflict with the desire to get fvcked from a man whos handsome as much as the instinct of a man to mate with a healthy woman who can give him sane child isnt in conflict with the desire to fvck the younger nanny.

It doesnt matter who runs this world,girls still like to get fvcked from handsome boys, is it really so difficult to understand?
The fact that arthur is king and he is the top dog in camelot doesnt stop guinever to blow lancelot cause he looks more attractive.

And please save all that alpha talking about the man who can beat me or can ruin me economically, really certain things in this site has gone too far.

 

[Ease]

I can see clearly that there is an idea that you do not understand, so i will school you. Now read carefully because it is annoying when people reject truth and spread their misinformation.

We are not talking about the worth of man in this world we are talking about what turns a girl on,

Men fear and respect a strong man, he leads a conversation, he gives instructions, he is stronger. Women are attracted to a strong man. The same traits that make us respect and fear and place in a status above us, the same traits turns girls on and attracts.

Physical strength, confidence, leadership, power, ie. all masculine traits. We know what masculine traits are. If you want to talk about handsome and looks, then a wide jaw, tall and broad shoulders. These are traits which we classify men in the social pecking order from top dog - to worthless weak chode. The alpha dog is handsome, and vice versa.

What makes a man attractive to a woman is the same as what makes a man a top dog. Masculine traits are to impress and beat down male competitors as much as they are to attract females.

Now being rich, powerful and influential is an indicator of a masculine man because these men exhibit these traits. Exceptions aside, it takes a strong man to get ahead in life, and a weak one that gets to deal with ****. Women are attracted to money because they seek a provider, but thats irrelevant to the point we are making.

Im not saying rich men dont get cheated on. Im trying to explain to you what attracts women, because you show misunderstanding.