Do you think there is a point at which a gymcel is so strong that he can ascend no matter how ugly?

[MatureDJ]

I was watching this, and it got me thinking. I think these otherwise ugly men get good tang.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Some girl might have a fetish for strong guys.

 

[Cowboy-Cheems]

Perhaps they do well with body builder enthusiast that happen to be female, but I don't see them going up to a Sorority House and making panties drop by merely existing. He definitely has an advantage over fat basement dwelling neckbeard types though. Having great muscle definition caters to a more primitive form of attraction, that can work in his favor at certain times.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Look at the fackin organomegaly on those mfers! Jesus they have been pushing PEDs forever - look at those bellies? They're on more drugs than the whole crew of Rolling Stones roadies. They have so much trouble starting in their 40's like hernias, hypertension, aterial sclerosis, bowel issues, kidney failure, right ventricle hypertrophy (CHF).

These are the things that do it:

1. Anabolic Steroids: These drugs are synthetic derivatives of testosterone and are known for their muscle-building properties. However, they can lead to liver enlargement and may have potential cardiotoxic effects, enlarging the heart.
2. Human Growth Hormone (HGH): Overuse can result in an enlarged heart and may also have metabolic effects that stress other organs.
3. Erythropoiesis-Stimulating Agents (ESAs): These drugs increase red blood cell production, which can be problematic for the heart as it needs to pump a larger volume of blood, possibly leading to heart enlargement.
4. Stimulants: These can have a range of effects including increased heart rate, which may lead to an enlarged heart over time with misuse.
5. Diuretics: Used for rapid weight loss, they can stress the kidneys, potentially leading to kidney enlargement or dysfunction.

A cycle or two isn't going to trash you unless you're an imbecile, but getting that big - what for? To cut your life short and look like a silverback ape?

Fack. Yeah not a good look. Better to look like a greek marble statue than that. I guarantee that you take you clothes off and you have a belt of adonis going on, and even slight ab definition (don't need much), you will have one of the top 3 physiques she's ever seen. Freakishly large mouth breathers like those guys are like ogres, I'm sure they have a niche - but its small.

 

[characternote]

Some girl might have a fetish for strong guys.

This is basically the answer.

People always say 'hit the gym' as if it will make you 'handsome' a 'chad'/good looking and suddenly mean you can bang any hot 18 year old you want lol. It's just not how it works.

Truth is, it only helps a little (since people WILL look better if they have some decent shape and a 6pack and a lack of fat can make the face look better )BUT you can't really put lipstick on a pig.

A huge percentage of guys who simply aren't 'attractive' to girls (girl tend to swipe left on him) will only get marginally better results by 'hitting the gym'

However, there are some girls who essentially have a fetish for huge muscly guys. (in the same way we have a poster here who has a fetish for massive t1ts and he will bang a fat ugly 75 year old happily if she has massive breasts).
If you become an absolute beast, even if you are an ugly mofo, you basically become a 'niche' and there are likely some very hot girls who have this fetish who now consider you a sexual option, despite looking like a boot facially. But in terms of a 'niche' you could effectively get the same 'improvement' by covering yourself in tattoos. Face hands neck etc lol. Some very hot young girls love that!

The forums best advice for guys who aren't getting laid with the kind of girls they want is basically 'hit the gym and make lots of money'. And whilst it's good advice (and better than 'read Ross Jefferies so you can jedi mind control any dime piece into doing whatever you want' lol) it's very limited in it's effectiveness and you shouldn't expect miracles. If you walk into a bar and you are built like a wardrobe and you make a lot of money but you look old and simply not 'attractive' facially to the 19 year olds in the bar, I know that guy would be getting rejected an absolute tonne

 

[Hamurabimbi]

This is basically the answer.

People always say 'hit the gym' as if it will make you 'handsome' a 'chad'/good looking and suddenly mean you can bang any hot 18 year old you want lol. It's just not how it works.

Truth is, it only helps a little (since people WILL look better if they have some decent shape and a 6pack and a lack of fat can make the face look better )BUT you can't really put lipstick on a pig.

A huge percentage of guys who simply aren't 'attractive' to girls (girl tend to swipe left on him) will only get marginally better results by 'hitting the gym'

However, there are some girls who essentially have a fetish for huge muscly guys. (in the same way we have a poster here who has a fetish for massive t1ts and he will bang a fat ugly 75 year old happily if she has massive breasts).
If you become an absolute beast, even if you are an ugly mofo, you basically become a 'niche' and there are likely some very hot girls who have this fetish who now consider you a sexual option, despite looking like a boot facially. But in terms of a 'niche' you could effectively get the same 'improvement' by covering yourself in tattoos. Face hands neck etc lol. Some very hot young girls love that!

The forums best advice for guys who aren't getting laid with the kind of girls they want is basically 'hit the gym and make lots of money'. And whilst it's good advice (and better than 'read Ross Jefferies so you can jedi mind control any dime piece into doing whatever you want' lol) it's very limited in it's effectiveness and you shouldn't expect miracles. If you walk into a bar and you are built like a wardrobe and you make a lot of money but you look old and simply not 'attractive' facially to the 19 year olds in the bar, I know that guy would be getting rejected an absolute tonne

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Rich Piana reflected upon his absolutely massive size on some of his videos and basically said that after a certain point of growing big it becomes a turn off for women, he was wealthy and such so it had nothing to do with money, purely aesthetics, he was also a recognizable personality and generally had big status but still.

So yeah, I think there is a sweet spot and if you go past it your gonna have worse results

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The bottom line is that the advice about getting strong and healthy is good advice for life in general. Having a good physique increases your confidence the way you walk your presence everything.

Not to say that the posters here are cross-section of men that would be considered normal, but if it is, I’d wager that probably a good 75% of the men posting on this forum are not in shape, maybe more.

The bottom line is that if you have what is considered to be an attractive physique for men, you will have a better chance of attracting women.

The other thing of note is that the men arguing about not getting into shape are also the guys that are the most blackpilled and seemingly having trouble getting any leg at all. If they put as much effort into having a nice physique, as they did on whining on the board, things would be different.

This isn’t rocket science.

 

[Cowboy-Cheems]

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Notice how he isn't a fat slob. He is a little on the skinny side, but he is not skeletal either. My grandmother always griped at me for being too skinny when I looked like that guy though. I think the younger generations like the lean build. Heck, girls my age think skinny manlets like Tom Holland are sexy.

 

[SW15]

The best combination ever is to be 6'0"+ and fit with decent muscle definition.

Being super fit isn't going to help a 5'4"-5'7" guy that much.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Being super fit isn't going to help a 5'4"-5'7" guy that much.

But it’s better than not being super fit.

 

[soulforge]

But it’s better than not being super fit.

Yes it's still a few extra points.

The alternative is do nothing and pornhvb lol

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Unfortunately, many men who are lazy here will read your post as "you don't need to have a great physique", when you should be muscular and vascular with a healthy bf% - probably around 9-10% if you want to maximize your physical look. Even if you're not blessed facially, you'll be leagues ahead of most men.

Also, muscular does not mean ROID-level jacked, so get the "I don't want to look like a meathead" platitudes and excuses out of your pretty little minds. You should not have rolls of fat; your abs should be at least outlined/visible; your arms should be noticeable >16-18" on most frames; you should not have men-teats aka MOOBS, your chest and abdomen should not jiggle or overhang when you're face down, you should have a v-taper. You should be strong enough to pick up any woman you're having sex with without effort.

 

[zekko]

People always say 'hit the gym' as if it will make you 'handsome' a 'chad'/good looking and suddenly mean you can bang any hot 18 year old you want lol. It's just not how it works.

I've always looked at pro wrestling when I think about this sort of thing. Some men are handsome, some men are not. Apparently, most are not. If you look at a pro wresting roster, most of them are going to have good physiques, and they are going to spend a lot of time with weights. But you can also tell that some of them are going to be getting more tail than others, some are just not attractive, or charismatic for that matter.

That's always seemed to be an example to me of how hitting the gym is not a magic bullet, no matter how much some guys portray it as such. Then again, I don't have any real insight into the lives of pro wrestlers, they may all get laid by ring rats constantly for all I know lol. They do have some level of C or D level fame, after all (some will have A or B level).

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I was watching this, and it got me thinking. I think these otherwise ugly men get good tang.

Strong in their arms they may be, but the power of their beer belly is stronger...

Do you think there is a point at which a gymcel is so strong that he can ascend no matter how ugly?

Short answer:
No.
Longer answer:
A woman might accept him if he is rich as betabucks; otherwise again same answer: No.

 

[characternote]

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he knows what's up lol



i like how this dude flips out when the girl rejects him saying she likes skinny guys lmao

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[Manure Spherian]

Rich Piana reflected upon his absolutely massive size on some of his videos and basically said that after a certain point of growing big it becomes a turn off for women, he was wealthy and such so it had nothing to do with money, purely aesthetics, he was also a recognizable personality and generally had big status but still.

For some women.

Yet, he was never womanless, ever!

No one has to be liked by every sort of woman, or even most women.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

For some women.

Yet, he was never womanless, ever!

No one has to be liked by every sort of woman, or even most women.

Ok but getting into the details, the one married him for a green card and the other was the woman he was dating before he met green card and she only originally came back as an employee of his

 

[Manure Spherian]

Ok but getting into the details, the one married him for a green card and the other was the woman he was dating before he met green card and she only originally came back as an employee of his

Yes, and another woman of his past was a nut.

I get your point. But despite his lack of psychological acuity in his choices of women, he would never be womanless, specifically because he was alright looking, gregarious, and most importantly, a huge, vain, leather-skinned freak with tattoos. While that certainly wouldn’t work with all women, that combination is conducive to always having women.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

You're never gonna have big muscles anyways, so don't suffer.


That guy is a fvcking emotional wreck, see the way he's selling himself to the girls, the skinny strong guys she says she likes is a $hit test, thag guy is listing all the things he has so the girl can like him, it doesn't need to do with body building, search FitxFearless on youtube and see the difference, if you can't have a good physique, don't be hurt and work harder.


That's just a defeatist mentality, I'm not 6'0 so I'm gonna cry in the corner and won't do anything about it, its everyone's fault but me waaaah waahhhh.


Those guys who say that $hit they never gonna get muscular anyways, it requires hard work, discipline for years and years, preparing own meal, learn how to cook, moat guys in here don't even know to cook.

Also, to become a very big jacked guy you need to have 1% genetics, and people with those genetics are not in these kinds of forums.

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Beer POWER!