Do you think the latest mass-shootings were incel-influenced?

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My gut reaction is that these are incel-influenced. Just like during the days of the Wild West, when there were far too many men and far too many women, the bullets are flying due to the mens' sexual frustration.

The man who killed seven people in a shooting rampage in Odessa, Texas on Saturday had been fired from his job as a truck driver just hours earlier.
Rocio Martinez, 29, described him as a “loner” who kept to himself and who sometimes frightened her because he was always firing guns outside.

Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

For all the 4 billion years of life, and the 1.2 billions of years of life since sexual reproduction started, there has been an unbroken line of ancestors who managed to replicate between the original cell and every living form of life including every person. Those individuals who failed to replicate drop out of the great project of evolution of life - and in the case of humans drop out of contributing to the long term future of the only sentient species on Earth, the only species that has gone to the moon, invented science and technology and civilization. I think it is easy to see how the 53% of men who are deprived of the opportunity to participate in the ongoing life of the species are sore about it. And how, having no stake in the future of the species, they might feel free to take their status of essentially being eunichs as far as replication goes, as a reason to strike out.
 
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Not really since I don't see how attacking other members of society that have nothing to do with why you are "incel" is meaningful in any way, shape or form. How come it's only white people mainly behaving like this? Non-whites should have a more difficult time being incel, but you don't see this type of behaviour from ethnic minorities or people in other countries. There is no mass shooting in Japan, and you'd think that country has a worst incel problem than America does.

Another thing is I don't identify with any of these so-called incels. In fact, the more you read the articles, the more it sounds like there is a spiritual problem rather than a simple boy not meeting girl problem. Who shoots animals on the roof? Law enforcement did not check into him because he was white? The second article mentions some extreme toxic heavy metal. Are you kidding me? These people sound like they are into some quasi-devil worship and then you wonder why they went on a shooting rampage?

You know what I just looked at just now? Mamma Mia 2. I doubt watching something like that would lead to feelings of rage. People have to be careful what type of video games they play, what music they listen to, or what type of occultic influences are making them behave that way. I have too much of Jesus on the inside of me to feel rage for being incel.

In fact, looking at the third article, what type of world are we going to be bringing kids into anyway? Half the planet is burning up with fires and almost now irreversible climate change this is a way worst place than the 70s was when I was born. I can get why my parents had me in their time, but wouldn't get it if I was born now. Already lots of plant and animal life have been wiped out since the 70s. I can't imagine growing someone up and you don't have beaches. This summer alone here where I am, because of rising lake levels, the beaches were virtually gone. It's sad if you look at it. So I don't really see the third article that way. You need a second planet Earth or a major population correction to survive as a species not to simply have more births and further tax already drained resources to the ground.
 

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Being an incel is simply a result of the issue that these men have and not the cause for these violent rampages.

Men that have psychological and emotional issues often do not do well with forming social relationships with other people. Naturally if a man has issues with making friends he is going to have a hard time with dating and women as well.

There are tons of men out there in the general public that struggle with women and rarely get any success with them, yet we don't see them all in the street causing mayhem.

However, with all of this said I do in fact think that having large swaths of men who never get any access to women goes against the the grain of a stable society. Look at black America, in their culture it is normal for one man to have multiple children with multiple women and often having little to no involvement with them what so ever. If our dating and reproductive culture started shifting more in that direction that is what you can expect in our society.
 

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They just lost their sht and just happen to have a gun and decided to take as many people with them as possible. This last one might have even lost his trucking job due to police or DOT and when stopped by another cop lost it and made a fast decision which he regraded. But in Texas, shooting a cop means either life in prison or death. So there wasn't a way to turn back from it. So he did what he did.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people is a bad argument. If he didn't have a gun, he couldn't kill a cop, and this kind of sht wouldn't happen.
 

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@Amante Silvestre Timothy had to prepare his bomb. Terrorists had to organize things. You'd have to make a pipe bomb, etc.. You can buy a gun, and you can carry it with you, and you can use it if something snaps inside you.

There is no need for a gun in modern society.

I've recently showed some U.S. police shootings to Russian ex cop. His comment was literally, 'mayhem', lawlessness. He said cops can't do that kind of sht. But they do. Do get shot in the U.S. you can stick your hand inside your pocket, say fck you to a cop, and pull your fist at him saying I'm gonna shoot you mother f'r. You'll get shot.

Guns, my friend, are dangerous. Firstly for people who own guns. Secondly for people who are around people with guns. Guns are bad.

Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.
 

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No. I have a hunting rifle at home, inside a safe.

If I was in the U.S.. I'd have guns. Though, I would not be carrying one with me even if I had a CCD permit. Just because of printing people might call police on you and you could be shot. No thank you.

 

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Seems rather strange that most of the mass shootings we hear in the news is being committed in the US.
 

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I dont think the problem is s3x, I think the problem is lack of validation from women and being bullied around from both men, women and colleagues at work or teachers at school.

The fact that those screwheads are all male its no coincidence, apparently mocking a skinny or fat or shy ugly guy is perfectly acceptable nowadays and the interesting thing is that if he complains he is further mocked from those same authorities that would call for a crusade if a woman or an immigrant experience the same attacks.

In the us there is probably the perfect storm for this mess to happen, a racist society (not referring to race but to anyone who does not fit to certain alowed groups), a system of law that discriminates as much as mainstream culture.

I recall reading the diary of one of those spree killers few years ago and he said that he had to postpone his attack many times cause during those days he met someone who behaved nicely toward him therefore he felt guilty about it...can you imagine just a simple person being nice was enough to have him push away his madness.

We often joke here and mock certain people (I do it too) but we dont realize that we make life a living hell for individuals whos only fault is being short and ugly or being emotionally retarded due to their upbringing.

How many times we had the creepy guy at the gym trying to talk to us and trying to be our friend only to be cut short with a monosillabic answer only to have a long smiley loud convo with an other cool guy at the bench press right after?
 

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Seems rather strange that most of the mass shootings we hear in the news is being committed in the US.
And there’s more and more stabbings in London, no more kitchen knives!!

Getting closer and closer to a second American revolution. Look at what Beto is saying about guns lol nope sorry I’m not the kinda guy that goes looking for a fight but definitely not just giving up my guns.
 

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Seems rather strange that most of the mass shootings we hear in the news is being committed in the US.
It's a pretty well known fact that outside of countries that abort female foeti (i.e., China, India) and the Moslem world (with its polygyny), the USA is the worst country for a man trying to date.
 

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Most of these are false flag attacks
 

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@Espi the right to arms is to protect from a police state and tyrannical government overreach. Whats sick about this society is the healthcare system, the banking system, high level corruption, and severe poverty and degredation of the United States but people like you want to cry about the big bad gun problem when you dont even realize the crap going into our food water air

China has extreme gun control. There have been many mass stabbings with dozens killed. Look it up you will find a plethora of articles and videos on the subject. Its not the gun its not the knife its PEOPLE who will always find a way to kill others. What dont you understand about that? In historical times entire villages would be raped and pillaged. Still happens today in many parts of africa. You dont care about that tho do you
 

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It's a pretty well known fact that outside of countries that abort female foeti (i.e., China, India) and the Moslem world (with its polygyny), the USA is the worst country for a man trying to date.
Nowadays in most Muslim countries polygamy if frowned upon socially.

It's too bad.

However there's some societies that actively practices a defacto 'polygamy', having mistresses on the side, Asians does this all the time, having another family etc.

The older wife normally excepts it because we'll she's older and well provided for, and is still No.1
 

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And there’s more and more stabbings in London, no more kitchen knives!!

Getting closer and closer to a second American revolution. Look at what Beto is saying about guns lol nope sorry I’m not the kinda guy that goes looking for a fight but definitely not just giving up my guns.
I'm not disputing the right to own guns as I myself own one, and it's an old hunting rifle that I inherited.

I'm just stating that it's odd that mass shootings keeps on happening in the US.

And just to remind you, we're talking abt mass shooting not mass stabbings, those are 2 different things that requires different attention.
 

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I'm not disputing the right to own guns as I myself own one, and it's an old hunting rifle that I inherited.

I'm just stating that it's odd that mass shootings keeps on happening in the US.

And just to remind you, we're talking abt mass shooting not mass stabbings, those are 2 different things that requires different attention.
So they need to figure out what is making these guys snap. Trying to take away everyone else’s guns because of a few nutjobs isn’t going to work for the majority of us who have guns in part to prevent the government from attempting that lol just not going to end well if it comes to that
 

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So they need to figure out what is making these guys snap. Trying to take away everyone else’s guns because of a few nutjobs isn’t going to work for the majority of us who have guns in part to prevent the government from attempting that lol just not going to end well if it comes to that
I however don't think everyone should easily own guns.

It's impossible for a govt or a gun shop to know who's a nutcase.

A nutcase can be someone who has extreme hate and not just merely crazy.

How can anyone know for certain that a man has deep seated hate for another racial or religious group?

I own a gun licence because I have roughly 700 acres of land, a good 200 or 300 acres is still uncut jungle tracks and adjacent/adjoining to reserved jungle.

I have a real need to put down dangerous animals, such as big cats, big ass cobras etc.

I also have a licence for a handgun but it's due to my social standing and its pretty much a traditional hand down in my area.

But for the vast majority of society, its extremely difficult to own a gun.

Only a select few can ever own one, being a landowner of a few hundred acres makes one qualify or having social standing such as being a chieftain, a politician, a well known celebrity etc.

I believe that in NYC it's also extremely hard to own a handgun?

Perhaps the rest of the US can emulate NYC.
 

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Purely an opinion.

I say, Lets ban the 2nd Amendment and see what happens. If it means a second Civil War, bring it on. Gunowners versus liberals. Would love to see that.
Lol wouldn’t last too long. Military might have all the nukes and everything but the guys operating them are definitely going to be majority on the side that loves what America used to represent. Not the crap liberals are trying to force onto everyone.
 

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Not buying it. Sounds ridiculous to me.

I've got a big SUV and I'm convinced that an aspiring mass car-driving seral killer( LOL) is going to end up himself killing himself rather than me. And god god forbid if I should have the opportunity and I retailate and counterattack. The would -be- murderer will definitely be wishing he were dead. I wouldn't kill him I he would do prolonged and unspeakable demage to the mind and body (eyes, Testicles, brain, etc). Foot pressed hard on the throat with multiple forceful kicks to the head and face. No doubt I am capable of this and would sleep ust fine that night.

You guys can talk about knives, hammers, cars, etc. The fact is, Guns are the preferred choice of mass murder. By far. They are the most destructive device. No mass shootings are committed with a car or a knive or a hammer.

This is how i know you are so out of touch with reality...talking about torturing a would be assailant with your specialized torturer skills lmao dude shut the fk up with that nonsense you wouldnt do sht.
 

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I personally think it’s the result of pharmaceutical drugs, particularly SSRIs.
 

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