Do you think that every woman has the potential to be a "groupie"

[STR8UP]

Talking about status in another thread it got me thinking.

I am of the firm belief that pretty much ANY woman is susceptible to "relaxing" (more like ignoring) her moral code if the right guy flips the right switch. They are ALL "hors" at heart, it's just that some of them might go through life not meeting the guy that knows where to find the right button.

In talking to women it seems that most of them will admit to being starstruck by at least ONE celebrity. Brad Pitt. Orlando Bloom. Vin Diesel. Vigo Whateverhisnameis.

Just to see the reaction on their faces when they see that certain celebrity on tv or talk about him is kind of scary.

How many of these women would act on their sexual impulse if they were to actually be propositioned by the celeb of their dreams?

How many would act on it even if they have a b/f or husband and they could be relatively sure no one would ever know?

I would bet that the VAST majority of single women would drop their panties in about half a second. 90%+

The ones with b/f's.....75%

Married....at least 50%

What do you think?

 

[Phyzzle]

This question might better be asked of human beings, not women.

How many men with girlfriends would fail to shoot down a horny Brittany Murphy clone, if he was relatively sure that no one would ever find out?

 

[joekerr31]

and the irony in this particular case is that sex with a celebrity is absolutely no different than sex with anyone else.

i think your numbers are good, but i'd score them a bit different.

single women ... 99%
- this is like the DEFINING moment in their life. its the equivalent of filling their drama tank up to the top for life. they will always be able to drop the bomb in any given conversation "you know brad pitt? i slept with him!" remember, women define themselves by the man in their life (or the men who have wanted them). id argue that 99% of single women, if propositioned by a star they were already head over heels for, would be in the sac likitty split.

women with boyfriends .... 65%
- the women with boyfriends have a LOT to lose. provided they love their bfs and hope to marry them and have kids, etc., a lot of women will think long and hard before putting that at risk. in essence they are selling out their own 'dream' of the house, white picket fence and 2.5 kids.

married women .... 90%
- married women are the ones who are most likely to cheat. they've been with the same old guy for a while. life is routine. suddenly their favourite male star wants to bang them? they throw down. they know if they get caught there are plenty of buffers to protect them (kids, money, etc.). IF they get caught they will just hash it out in therapy they figure.
- they also do this for the opposite reasons of the single women. they can't go around telling people they cheated, they don't get any drama from it. what they do get however is a sense of status, of feeling wanted. and if they get caught they'll just blame it on the husband saying he 'doesn't pay any attention to them anymore and when brad pitt seduced her she didn't know what she was doing and it 'just happened'"

whats pathetic about all these scenarios is that people are so inherently unhappy with their lives that they have to latch on to illusions (like that brad pitt is actually any different than any other guy out there).

this goes to show what I often say, that while people may not be depressed, they definitely aren't happy. and you can't trust someone who isn't happy with themselves, because they are easily tempted by external circumstances.

whereas you give me someone who is happy with themselves, with their marriage, with their life, and i'll show you someone who
1) doesn't idolize other human beings and 2) has a VERY low probability of cheating (even if you put 20 million dollars in front of them).

 

[st_99]

Are we talking strictly celebs here?

as if its any different for us guys?

Would we not relax our moral code?


If you had the opportunity to "do it" with (insert hot celebrity here), you wouldn't?

I don't think you've stumble on any kind of breakthrough here. Just human nature. Status can take you a long way.

 

[Aenigma]

Yea, Str8up I do. I'll even one up you. I think that all women are *****s and that "real men" are so rare in our soceity that any women will cheat/sleep with a "real man" if she dosen't have one in her life. What's a "real man" well, that's a completely different subject.....

 

[ketostix]

Are we talking strictly celebs here?

as if its any different for us guys?

Would we not relax our moral code?


If you had the opportunity to "do it" with (insert hot celebrity here), you wouldn't?

I don't think you've stumble on any kind of breakthrough here.

I don't know how anyone compare that to what girls do. Most guys would do it with any girl even if she was broke as hell that was as hot as your average celeberity. Men, unlike wome,n don't turn down or at least pretend like they don't want to have sex with most every girl then go nuts over just the idea of getting with a celebrity. There's no comparing the two. A lot of women will totally change their sexual persona over the mere idea of getting with a celebrity male. I think what Str8up was saying is most women will totally change their sexual response based just on the guy's fame. I don't see guys being like that.

 

[edger]

Groupies....shall I say my ex? My ex won't sleep with any guy(or so it seems) unless he's in a Metal band. The band doesn't necessarily have to be signed, as long as it's an established band. This was how I met her, through my last band.

What really sux is being in the Metal scene, where 98% of the hot women in the scene are groupies(that's no lie either), who won't sleep with you unless you're in a band. Most attractive women in the Metal scene have slept with at least one Metal musician in their life, or are active groupies, sleeping with multiple bands. Any Metaller can testify to this.

I'll tell ya, it's great being in a band. Aside from enjoying the playing, you're enjoying the babes every night of the week. Currently going solo at the moment(working on and recording songs, which I'm hoping will open up doors for me in terms of hooking up with another band. Will throw up a MySpace to promote the sh*t out of myself real soon once I'm done).

By the way, the hottest p*ssy I've seen a band draw in yet, has been that of Type-O Negative.

 

[STR8UP]

I think what Str8up was saying is most women will totally change their sexual response based just on the guy's fame. I don't see guys being like that.

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

Two t!ts, a hole, and a heartbeat....for a guy that's the jackpot. For women it's different. Women have to justify or rationalize their sexual behavior.

 

[KontrollerX]

Agreed.

Everyone has buttons that when pressed can make them do what they otherwise wouldn't.

It usually takes a skilled guy to do this but sometimes a moron with certain qualities ends up in the right place at the right time.

 

[Aenigma]

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

Two t!ts, a hole, and a heartbeat....for a guy that's the jackpot. For women it's different. Women have to justify or rationalize their sexual behavior.

I think its simpler then that, women simply act out on their attraction; if they're attracted enough to a guy they'll **** him and rationalize it to themselves afterward. This focus on celebrities is misplaced; celebrities have a higher "base" level of attraction due to their "social proof".

I'm of the opinion that almost any women will **** a guy if they're attracted enough to him, celebritiy or not. Uou just don't here about it because these guys aren't famous and hence women can't really reference them by name(pool boy anyone?).

 

[jonwon]

Talking about status in another thread it got me thinking.

I am of the firm belief that pretty much ANY woman is susceptible to "relaxing" (more like ignoring) her moral code if the right guy flips the right switch. They are ALL "hors" at heart, it's just that some of them might go through life not meeting the guy that knows where to find the right button.

In talking to women it seems that most of them will admit to being starstruck by at least ONE celebrity. Brad Pitt. Orlando Bloom. Vin Diesel. Vigo Whateverhisnameis.

Just to see the reaction on their faces when they see that certain celebrity on tv or talk about him is kind of scary.

How many of these women would act on their sexual impulse if they were to actually be propositioned by the celeb of their dreams?

How many would act on it even if they have a b/f or husband and they could be relatively sure no one would ever know?

I would bet that the VAST majority of single women would drop their panties in about half a second. 90%+

The ones with b/f's.....75%

Married....at least 50%

What do you think?

Agreed but i would put married women about 80% that will stray from marriage in some form or other, lets not just limit it to sex, marriage has many variables to the fine line of cheating.

Emotional relationships, that are like ticking time bombs.
Women who have been married for X amount of years, bordom starts drifting in.

Men are no different though.

 

[MR_PERFECT]

What if before you, your girlfriend met a famous guy like Brad Pitt and slept with him within hours, then did him again the following week, but made you wait a month. I can understand her attraction to the famous guy, but shouldn't the women in our lives be just as strongly attracted to us?

 

[jonwon]

What if before you, your girlfriend met a famous guy like Brad Pitt and slept with him within hours, then did him again the following week, but made you wait a month. I can understand her attraction to the famous guy, but shouldn't the women in our lives be just as strongly attracted to us?

The only way i found to get the 'truth' out of women on there sexual past, is to be a Fuc* buddie, any relationship stuff, they will guard there secrets till the time is right for them to expose them, this is usually when your hooked in, or they will never tell you.

Fuc* buddies, do not mind, i mean girls who you make it plain and simple to 'its only sex' they have no problems i find to tell you there past, if your interested or even if your not, some of them use it to try to get a rise from you, to feed there emotional need.

No point worrying about this, but i think its safe to say, if she is not a virgin, she would have had a one night stand at one point, which is basicly what your asking.

 

[STR8UP]

Fuc* buddies, do not mind, i mean girls who you make it plain and simple to 'its only sex' they have no problems i find to tell you there past, if your interested or even if your not, some of them use it to try to get a rise from you, to feed there emotional need..

That's what I was saying in another thread where they were talking about women's sexual past.

If she's relationship material, I don't bring it up. If she starts talking about it I tell her I don't want to hear it.

If its a fukk buddy, I do the opposite.

I'll probably burn in HELL for eternity for this one, but recently sent a girl a naked pic of another girl I had sex with. The only reason I did it was because I trust the one I sent it to that it would be properly disposed of, but I still felt a little guilty nonetheless. Anyway.....

Yea, with fukk buddies I talk about other women I have had sex with. not necessarily bringing up names or anything (half of them already know the others through the grapevine anyway) but I'll dole out a few sordid details here and there and it seems to turn them on.

The one I sent the naked pic to, I was always very open about things with her, and since she knows I don't judge she let me in on a little secret. I guess a few days prior one of her friends had a little "pajama party". A few drinks later and her best friend and some other chicks were going down on her.

You will never get that kind of honesty from a "relationship" chick.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

As I'm so fond of saying, the same girl who ƒucked the hot guy she met half an hour earlier in the foam cannon party on spring break in Cancun for Girls Gone Wild is the same girl who'll tell you she's "just not comfortable enough" to have sex with you while you're spooning with her trying to think of new ways to "increase the trust". Every woman can be a slut, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in her.

I once used this as an example in another thread:

My friend Ray had entertained a flirtatious "friendship" with a semi-attractive PR girl in our department for a while, unbeknownst to me. He knew what I's said about LJBF rejections and "playing friends" with women, so he left me out of the loop on the whole affair. He had "dated" her on several occasions, but beyond the infrequent "kiss while drunk" she kept him at arms distance using the standard fillibuster techniques women use - "I'm not ready for a relationship", "I'm not looking for a BF", "We're good friends", etc. She did however keep him in her 'attention web' with little carrots of affection for him to pull her cart for about 3 or 4 months.

This all came to a head when one night she had to do some work with Aaron Lewis (yes, from Staind) while he was doing his solo acoustic act at our casino. To make a long story short, the PR girl ended up buzzed on this night and ƒucked Aaron Lewis' manager in a classic situation of right-guy, right-environment, right-conditions. Her mistake was in confessing her actions to Ray who'd felt betrayed considering all the investment he'd put into doing what he thought was the right way to go about things. Here was one guy on one night who she ƒucked in a moment of chemical reaction because "he was hot, I was drunk and one thing led to another,.." versus his 3-4 month personal investment.

I should go into a little more detail about "Mary" the PR girl. This girl, at every opportunity, loved to display her 'properness' and would always say she "wanted a man with a good heart" when asked what she looked for in a guy. She was very outgoing as befits a PR person, but at all times she presented herself as someone conscious of how people preceived her and her reputation. Hers was a classic case of basing estimations upon behavior above words. Biology trumps conviction everytime - sexuality, for as much as we think we can, will not go unexpressed. Celibate priests, moralistic republican statesmen, and the pure-as-the-driven-snow virtuous girl you've got ONEitis for all want to get off, and they'll find a way to do so.

 

[STR8UP]

Biology trumps conviction everytime - sexuality, for as much as we think we can, will not go unexpressed. Celibate priests, moralistic republican statesmen, and the pure-as-the-driven-snow virtuous girl you've got ONEitis for all want to get off, and they'll find a way to do so.

This is what I've been saying now for some time.

People read my posts and have the idea that all of the women I am around are "hors'.

I'm here to tell you that they (women) are ALL "hors", if that's the negative term you use to wish to describe them.

I don't choose to use that word because 1) I believe that the only real distinction between a woman who is not labeled as a "hor" and one who is seen doing things that might be considered "horish" and thus IS labeled as a "hor", is her ability or desire to hide it and/or repress it. and 2) I am a non-judgmental, open minded person, so who is to say that I don't see a more "real" side of normal people?

Now I will admit, I do know girls who have probably fukked three times as many guys as I have girls (I'm sure all know some of those kinds of girls). But guys on here claim that I hang out with "hors", when they could be the same girls that are making some poor AFC wait for sex, putting on a good front to avoid judgment from the rest of the world.

 

[Colossus]

Yes, i do.

It's entirely situational, but even the purest sweetheart wants to get down. I think as you develop and your game gets stronger, you learn how to be that guy, but even AFCs can find themselves there by accident.

I can remember times when i was younger when i would be crushed to find out some girl i had oneitis for just hooked up with Johnny-whats-his-name out of the blue.

I can also think of a few very attractive girls that i have layed (one of which turned out to be an LTR) on the first or second night hanging out that were seen as 'untouchable' by other guys. They all had several guys in their perpetual LJBF "dangling carrot" zone at any given time...some of them for months or years, then i just came in and ran the show. And i didnt have incredible game either...I had some, but it was really a matter of being the right guy at the right time.

 

[WestCoaster]

A response to the initial post here: a resounding YES!

Couple examples: In college, the bible study Christian girls were hitting it a lot in the dorms with different guys. One gal later on after college wanted to hit it with me just months before her marriage. I declined (probably stupidly) ... but she had no problem asking me to spend the night just minutes after telling me she was going to get engaged to her boyfriend. She says "the lord" at each and every turn.

A few years ago a gal I knew went to Vegas with her three-time divorced/sl-t of a friend. I knew they were going to go down there to hit it with some guys. My friend met an army dude on the dance floor and had sex with the guy for a few days and then couldn't believe it when he dumped her sorry a$$.

This gal (another alleged bible toter) tells me later, "That's not me, I usually don't move that fast, but the chemistry was there!" I snickered, thinking, of course you went down there to hit it, just admit it.

Most guys don't excuse it or say, "that's not me" or whatever. They just do it and move on.

Yes, great post, most women will do anything for a quick jump in the sack, married and religious ones are the biggest hypocrites here.

I actually have more respect for single gals who have the footloose and fancy free swinger lifestyle and don't excuse it or apologize for it.

 

[jonwon]

I like this classic quote's a few women i have slept with have said:

"i normally dont do this sort of thing"

Or

"I have never done that before"

Or

"your my first one night stand"

Sure! i just give them a some faigning interest remark.

One girl though who i did not contact after a one night stand, i saw her in a bar and she comes over to me and says "why did you never ring me"

I told her i was busy.

she says

"i never did anything like that with anyother guy, i am not normally that type of girl"

I was in a pissed off mood that night, i think one of my mates was annoying me so i said:

"sure"!

She could not get away fast enough lol