the problem with this language is that it is very difficult to be processed by the human mind , unless the girl itself is this erudite person , that also speaks this wayBack when I was still interested in finding the magic 'game' style that could bag you any girl you wanted, even if she thought you were hideous, I stumbled upon NLP and that used by people like Riker and Ross Jefferies etc.
I lead me to read little about NLP and do some research, and it did seems that NLP was largely debunked and considered a psuedoscience with There being no scientific evidence supporting the claims made by NLP advocate. Scientific reviews state that NLP is based on outdated metaphors of how the brain works that are inconsistent with current neurological theory and contain numerous factual errors
This almost makes me wanna start a thread about the style of game i've seen on other forums who seem to base it on riker. Seems to be a use of very flowery, overly descriptive language laced with NLP principles (embedded commands and pacing and such) that users claim can basically force a girl into a state where she is completely vulnerable and open to being seduced by you. A kind of magic super power where you can 'seduce' any girl you want. Of course these people have no infields. Only outrageous claims. And i'm honestly pretty sure that the people i'm thinking of are just practicing their descriptive writing skills in a group to try to sell their courses and coaching lol. Some of the cringiest FR's i've ever personally read that I think would do way more harm than good (I even tried some of the verbal patterns and stuff back in the day, much to my shame! And got the kind of reactions i'd expect from these young girl (. Namely 'WTF????; lol) - But I had to try it)
Some examples from these people to give you an idea of what i'm talking about:
Openers:
Hi, I just noticed you. You look like my ex, but I feel as if you’re the type of girl who isn’t afraid of grabbing life by the horns… like on this brisk night you’re outside having fun… soaking in the energy of a Friday night… feeling adrenalised. Like spiders exploding across the stars. You're ready for anything… ready for FUN on this enchanting Friday night… is that right?
Hi. *sits down next to girl in park*
You know… I've been thinking… Isn't this place just sooo…relaxing. Like… with all the birds chirping and the squirrels running about, and this breeze gently blowing on us… it kind of makes us be present in the moment, and the more time you spend, the more this feeling of connection to nature grows. And YOU forget about all the worries we have out there. Wouldn't you agree? Just from your overall vibe and energy… I get the sense that you're a really calm person interested in meeting people
Hi! I love this club. The DJ is there and he's playing your favourite songs, you've got your drink in your hand and everything feels possible. You feel alive. It's like that feeling when you are attracted. To me, it's similar. It's like we're all unified by divine light. And the music and energetic ambience puts you in the mindset for adventure where you can do anything you want without judegement. What's your name?
It's not just openers. It's the same stuff throughout the interaction. After you've opened it's more ''Isn't it......... amazing......... when you meet a stranger and you feel this spark. This magical connection ...........where you feel you've known each other for an eternity. Minutes .......turn to minutes. Hours to hours. Time has no meaning anymore......and you start to crave......adventure'' (you get the idea)
Now, I don't know about you guys, but that all sounds like the girls will think there is something wrong with you. It's so bad that i'm actually curious whether there are any UK posters here who can confirm that, as maybe it really is lost in translation and US girls think this is a normal way to speak and wouldn't think there was something wrong with you like I know young UK girls where i live do!
I also note that this verbal style has never caught on in the community. There appears to be tiny handful of posters apparently using this (i'm pretty sure it's 1 or 2 writers just writing these field reports. I think each guru sort of needs their own style/unique selling point in order to make money, and this awkward verbal style laced with 'nlp' is there particular brand, which nobody seems to use despite the apparent AMAZING success of the 2-3 people supposedly using it)
Seems to be a use of very flowery, overly descriptive language laced with NLP principles (embedded commands and pacing and such) that users claim can basically force a girl into a state where she is completely vulnerable and open to being seduced by you. A kind of magic super power where you can 'seduce' any girl you want. Of course these people have no infields. Only outrageous claims. And i'm honestly pretty sure that the people i'm thinking of are just practicing their descriptive writing skills in a group to try to sell their courses and coaching lol. Some of the cringiest FR's i've ever personally read that I think would do way more harm than good
I also note that this verbal style has never caught on in the community. There appears to be tiny handful of posters apparently using this (i'm pretty sure it's 1 or 2 writers just writing these field reports. I think each guru sort of needs their own style/unique selling point in order to make money, and this awkward verbal style laced with 'nlp' is there particular brand, which nobody seems to use despite the apparent AMAZING success of the 2-3 people supposedly using it)
I agree it's probably useless on cold approaching... but what if you do have rapport with the target? For example what if you work with an attractive female and interact a lot... You never made a move on her but she converses with you and may even consider you a friend. You don't think it still could work?As you can see, when establishing rapport is the goal, the practitioner must take into consideration the inherent biases in the target.
I asked you a ****ing questionI'm considering typing up a detailed (but straight to the point, all thriller no filler) synopsis on how to establish rapport - the most difficult aspect of NLP.
Even though NLP is indeed a pseudo-science, there's still some useful aspects of it. Just like how astrology is total bullsh/t, it doesn't hurt to know a little bit of astrology (even if its only usefulness is nothing more than just a topic of friendly conversation)....
Calm down, tough guy... If i feel like answering your question, i might... If not, i'll probably just go on my merry way....I asked you a ****ing question
No worries you incelCalm down, tough guy... If i feel like answering your question, i might... If not, i'll probably just go on my merry way....
I do not mind that people claim that one thing or the other works , and that you should try itSocializing - Magic Game Does Not Exist
I would just like to clarify something. Magic game does not exist. There has been a big debate since the birth of PickUp (dating back to MASF days) That Indirect is superior to Direct game and visa versa. Now I am personally in the indirect is more socially calibrated camp. However it is...www.skilledseducer.com
The 3 (GirlsChase employed) writers are two good looking guys in their 20s (Bacchus and Teevster). And one 40 year old who hasn't had a cold approach lay in at least 2 years (Gunwitch).
There is only one other guy on the above forum whose had success (success being gotten laid. Not "increased his hook rate") with this sort of thing out of the countless others who have also tried it. Of course he is also good looking.
How these guys get away with this sort of thing is
1) Authority frame (GirlsChase writers. So anything they have to say MUST be legit).
2) Make it so you can create attraction be renaming it. And therefore feel you have control over it.
Teevster renamed it Compliance
Gunwitch/Bacchus named it Social frame
Chase Amante calls it Excitement
(What is listed as "game moves" are things she will let you do if she is attracted. Means you can not use these to "build" attraction).
Renaming it, means you too can get their same results without the prerequisite main factor (because you can build compliance (you can only do compliance tests with the "game moves" listed above, to make sure she is attracted). And you are in control of social frame (there are common sense things you can say about yourself (age, job, living situation, nationality etc) that can hurt or help her attraction she has for you).
3) Ignoring the Sexual availability factor.
Again the claim is, if she isn't sexually available, it doesn't matter you can still get her by setting Anti-ASD frames. When users claim to HAVE set Anti ASD frames but the girl still wouldn't budge, they are ignored. Or met with more irrelevant seemingly legit mental masterbation that would not have changed the outcome.
on another note , in the article you shared , fascination is basically about dealing with green girls ( who like a lot from the get go , and very difficult to to mess things up , if you have at least average game skills )Socializing - Magic Game Does Not Exist
I would just like to clarify something. Magic game does not exist. There has been a big debate since the birth of PickUp (dating back to MASF days) That Indirect is superior to Direct game and visa versa. Now I am personally in the indirect is more socially calibrated camp. However it is...www.skilledseducer.com
The 3 (GirlsChase employed) writers are two good looking guys in their 20s (Bacchus and Teevster). And one 40 year old who hasn't had a cold approach lay in at least 2 years (Gunwitch).
There is only one other guy on the above forum whose had success (success being gotten laid. Not "increased his hook rate") with this sort of thing out of the countless others who have also tried it. Of course he is also good looking.
How these guys get away with this sort of thing is
1) Authority frame (GirlsChase writers. So anything they have to say MUST be legit).
2) Make it so you can create attraction be renaming it. And therefore feel you have control over it.
Teevster renamed it Compliance
Gunwitch/Bacchus named it Social frame
Chase Amante calls it Excitement
(What is listed as "game moves" are things she will let you do if she is attracted. Means you can not use these to "build" attraction).
Renaming it, means you too can get their same results without the prerequisite main factor (because you can build compliance (you can only do compliance tests with the "game moves" listed above, to make sure she is attracted). And you are in control of social frame (there are common sense things you can say about yourself (age, job, living situation, nationality etc) that can hurt or help her attraction she has for you).
3) Ignoring the Sexual availability factor.
Again the claim is, if she isn't sexually available, it doesn't matter you can still get her by setting Anti-ASD frames. When users claim to HAVE set Anti ASD frames but the girl still wouldn't budge, they are ignored. Or met with more irrelevant seemingly legit mental masterbation that would not have changed the outcome.
dm meI'm glad someone created this thread. NLP/Speed Seduction was one of the first things I looked into when I got introduced to "the game" many many years ago. I read Ross Jeffries's first book and read a lot of field reports that it worked using "patterns"
Also I am not sure if anyone remembers Dr. Judy from sex advice radio show? But she seemed very intelligent and in tune with sexuality/attraction and she publicly shamed Ross Jeffries for this, saying it tricks girls into hooking up.. This really made is seem like it was legit.
Does it really work from my experience? I don't know.... I think the theory behind it plausible which I think is saying certain things to elicit feelings of attraction and then directing those toward yourself discreetly. I have tried it several times and there's times where I thought it did work, but times where I wasn't sure. It may very well just be that the girls I tried it on and hooked up with were physically attracted to me versus the ones where it didn't work who weren't physically attracted to me.
I think the idea of using it on a random girl you see somewhere is probably futile given the guard women have up these days towards strangers. However if you are able to be in a situation with a girl who pays attention to your words, it could work...
I'd be game to test this out more if anyone else would like to participate?