Do you organize second date during first one or arrange it later by text?

[JusSayin]

Target girls: 18-24 zoomer generation.

I have tried both ways and failed both times.

So I realized if you organize second date during first date they usually agree out of politeness and then cancel last minute or "something comes up".

My hypothesis: If she wanted to **** that day your mistake was not inviting her over to your place and banging her. If she didn't want to **** and was looking for LTR, suggesting next date on first one to a girl with options signals you are too into her too fast and removes mystery.

1. So basically, my hypothesis right now - if a girl is hot, you have to taking more time after first date (like 3-4 days) and then message her to arrange another one.

2. Then there is John Anthony school of thought and he says women these days have attention spans of a goldfish, so if you don't organize the second date during the first one, they will forget about you.

My problem is: I don't know which strategy is more optimal and will result in higher % of second dates.

I suspect waiting is still better, because if all guys keep inviting her over, she will start wondering about the guy who doesn't. This might be the meta game to play right now, but I'm not sure.

3. Then there is mixed approach: analyze and screen the girl and see how much she is into you. The more she is into you, the higher chance of her agreeing to antoher date sooner (maybe the same evening or next day or even during the date). The less she is into you - the more you will gain by not chasing after her as that will raise your value slightly.

I guess I want to know what is your experience in 2023 with young girls (18-24) and which from these 3 strategies you employ to get highest likelihood of second date.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Dont organize 2nd date during the 1st one unless her interest is super high and it comes up naturally.

 

[JusSayin]

Dont organize 2nd date during the 1st one unless her interest is super high and it comes up naturally.

I like this approach. When do you usually reach out after first date to organize a second one?

 

[Dr.Suave]

I like this approach. When do you usually reach out after first date to organize a second one?

If the 1st date was during the weekend, I would wait until monday night to shoot a text, around the time Im guessing she´s getting ready to sleep; most girls are on their phone while in bed.

 

[bat soup]

The best way is to organise it before even having the first date. That way you won't waste your time.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If you're dealing with a structured three-date Kate, no harm in floating a 2nd date idea during the first meet. If you're trying to get laid on the 2nd date, you can be more relaxed about it.

 

[itouchyou]

In my experience many girls will hint at a second date the way women hint at anything; subtle and with enough plausible deniability to be considered nothing of the sort

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Usually the day after.

Sometimes they message me after to say that they want to see me again, which is nice.

 

[CornbreadFed]

After it, I try to wait a few days. If she is interested, then she will either ask you out or bait you in to asking her out.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

It's a tough call because having high availability can be a symptom of a scarcity mindset, but also you need to advance as well.

Some guys just do the no boundaries deal where they just don't let the first date ever end, but then it's hard to maintain that platonic, commitment free attitude you want from a plate, so typically you'd just 1 night stand her and never call again if you can score this.

Otherwise, it's usually better to put a bit of distance between than not, air on the side of caution.

Also understand women today especially are Creepy as hell, she's gonna be sharing pictures of you with her group chat, they'll be looking for you on social media, having a super high interest woman can almost be a curse today if she's a stalker type, especially the young ones.

I think you just want to tell her you had fun and that youll be in contact to do it again.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Wait a couple days.