Do you mumble?

[ethnomethodologist]

All of my life, I have mumbled, even when I write this, I can hear myself mumbling to myself inside of my head.

Do any of you mumble?

Even the WORD to me sounds like it should be eradicated from my vocabulary. I still want to stop the little problems I am having in my life, so I can move on to the larger ones. So I have to mention this to y'all, I hope it help some of you to, and I hope I can get some purdy answers from some of you DJ's out there

I got the idea for this thread from silverwex's post about stumbling over his words. I do it all of the time, people just tell me to speak louder, and slower. I try, but as you can tell, I try to talk to fast. Hopefully I can kill three birds with one stone with some of the answers you guys can help me with.

I talk low, and than I jumble the words together, than I cut myself off in the middle of sentences. When I am feeling down about myself, and I don't believe I deserve to be around anybody, I get scared, and I try to cover up my words. Know what I am talking about?

I hope somebody can help.

Thanks in advance for any links, and advice you guys can give. Good questions, and telling me what you feel about it, would be awesome as well.

Goodnight all.

 

[539]

I was told that by a bartender about a few months ago at TGIF. The flirting was there and everything but she kept saying that I mumbled. The situation was one I was barely holding onto so it was an even seat of power and I couldn't find an edge to make it mine. So I figured the mumbling came out. It's all a matter of where you're at in all this. I got over mumbling so it can be done. But the attitude that you are just as desreving as anybody else that breathes should give you a kickstart to get up, get ut and do something.

Start with your girl friends and work on vocalization with them. Turn up the confidence and practice with them. Next, turn to the older ladies like the ones in their 40's and 50's. May sound crazy but they love to talk and it'll make you feel more relaxed because you're not trying to get anything except a conversation. It all takes work and effort but it pays. Then, C+F will seem like 2nd grade to you.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by 539
Next, turn to the older ladies like the ones in their 40's and 50's.

3 years ago, I cried in front of a total stranger. She listened to everything I said, she didn't leave my side for a moment. She brought the pain out of me, and she gave me the strength to stop, all in the same conversation. She was so kind, I tried not to mumble, but my heart was in my throat, so I could only blurb little words while she talked to me. Thanks for mentioning this man, it's been a long time since I have asked one of my elders, and honest question... I feel bad talking to the women who are drinking for fun at the bar, about anything important. Only problem is, thats the only place I know, that I have mad social proof, so I feel safe there. I am confident, I don't mumble while I am there.

When I go to the gym, or to grab a coffee, when I speak with my boss, and at times with my coworkers, I start to mumble. With my family I do the same thing. I'm going to bring it up with my mother tomorrow. She's the first person to get angry at me about it.

 

[Keeper]

Aye, I used to mumble. Then I bought that audio program: The Sound of your Voice, by Carol Flemming... and now people tell me I speak like a presenter on TV.

It's all about moving your lips properly, and releasing the air from your lungs quickly enough.

If you talk too low, with too little air your vocal cords vibrate too much, and that along with still lips causes a very dull, monotone, mumbly sound.

 

[john_1234]

i was just about to mention what keeper just said. i used to mumble too. you'll be happy to know that it's actually simple to overcome the habit of mumbling. Mumbling occurs due to lack of facial muscle movement. When you're watching the news, notice how the news anchormen talk. You'll notice they are very expressive and animated with their facial muscles. Also notice how their teeth shows because of their facial muscles moving. So if you want to stop mumbling, start exaggerating your lips and mouth when you talk.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by Keeper
Aye, I used to mumble. Then I bought that audio program: The Sound of your Voice, by Carol Flemming... and now people tell me I speak like a presenter on TV.

It's all about moving your lips properly, and releasing the air from your lungs quickly enough.

If you talk too low, with too little air your vocal cords vibrate too much, and that along with still lips causes a very dull, monotone, mumbly sound.

Do you know where I can find a link to the program? Is there a way I can learn it through practice until I have the funds to purchase it?

Just what you say now is inspiring, I want to sound like a TV presenter. I don't want to sound like any of the people that are selling DD's, Swingcats, or any of the other 50+ seduction materials out there, for some easy low price of whatever. I want to sound real, without having to repeat myself over and over again

I also have the opposite problem, sometimes I speak too loud, and people tell me to shut the F up. First time experiencing that was 5 days ago I think. Do you know anything about slowing down as well?

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by john_1234
i was just about to mention what keeper just said. i used to mumble too. you'll be happy to know that it's actually simple to overcome the habit of mumbling. Mumbling occurs due to lack of facial muscle movement. When you're watching the news, notice how the news anchormen talk. You'll notice they are very expressive and animated with their facial muscles. Also notice how their teeth shows because of their facial muscles moving. So if you want to stop mumbling, start exaggerating your lips and mouth when you talk.

I am an internet whoore I read yahoo news, because they tell me faster, they don't speak as fast as I would like them to. It has been 3 days since I had the time to check yahoo news though, it all sounds like the same old stuff to me. I'll watch the news again some day though, and I'll try and make my lips move like, wayy too much for what I am saying. I'm going to play around like a monkey when I talk to people:cheer:

Thanks for all the advice guys, I hope other people read this

Keep it coming, everything and anything is going to help!

 

[Keeper]

Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
Do you know where I can find a link to the program? Is there a way I can learn it through practice until I have the funds to purchase it?

Just what you say now is inspiring, I want to sound like a TV presenter. I don't want to sound like any of the people that are selling DD's, Swingcats, or any of the other 50+ seduction materials out there, for some easy low price of whatever. I want to sound real, without having to repeat myself over and over again

I also have the opposite problem, sometimes I speak too loud, and people tell me to shut the F up. First time experiencing that was 5 days ago I think. Do you know anything about slowing down as well?

No worries.

Here's what I did. I watched Naked News for a while and noticed how those presenters moved their jaw. Heh, like crazy, I tell you. At first it felt very mechanical - then it felt stunted - then it felt stupid - then I calmed down and just went along with it. Took about 6 weeks of concsious effort before I could claim I was doing it naturally.

Then came the breath control.

Here's what you do, a few times a day just say: "Zeeeeeeeeee" "Zaaaaayyyyy" "Zooooooooo" "Zaaaaaaaa" REALLY slowly. And practice on giving your voice that vibrato sound, on one breath. That'll give you some practice and controling breath, which brings me to articulation.

A NATURAL sounding voice is one that doesn't sound forced. Try this out, say the word "Inside". Notice that you shoot you the 'in'. You can feel your throat constrict for half a second, then release the preasure of air to form a sound. That's a no no. Try saying the word with a completely relaxed throat. At first you might be saying "Yiiinside" - that's a start.. but with some practice you'll say all words without that initial shot of air. The secret to doing this is streching your throat, widening it, so the air flows freely though it... AND not constricting your throat. You won't do this with your nomal speaking habit. YOu'll have to project more air from your lungs. But you won't be screaming. Instead you'll have a much clearer sounding voice that goes over background noises - hence removing the mumble.

Hmm... as for the program...

The ISBN is: 0671796658

Just run a search on your favourite bookstore and you'll probably find it. If not, get it at amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671796658/104-4249763-7293515?v=glance&n=283155

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Naked News never seen the show, only little bits from comedy movie sites like "break.com" Have you thought of joining the no masturbation thread and seeking some assistance with your habit? I was just thinking you implied you still masturbate

Thanks for the advice, and the link. I don't know a damned thing about ISBN number yet, and my first order with amazon fell through, lol I spent all the money on my CC before they could put the charge through. Thank god, I ordered some crap ass books, I could get a better deal on them elsewhere as well, Amazon is the cheapest on my time though

Next time I mumble, at least I'll be able to make it obvious I am trying, hopefully make em laugh. That point on the burst of air(clap) after saying "in" was sweet, never thought of it before, I like to beat box, well TRY at least. "yo yi how you were doing?"

What do you do for the rest of the letters that have harsh beginnings like interesting? Any word that starts with a consonant will likely do this, and any hard vowels?

Breath control, like pacing my voice, or just knowing I have the ABILITY to control my voice is going to help that much?

Oh yeah, forgot to mention the jaw part, I've got a big jaw. I feel so weird when I overpronounce with it, or move it fast, but the other people probably don't care. I'll give it a shot, going to be REALLY awkward though, but the practice will only do me good.

"short term pain, for long term gain"

Thanks for the excellent assistance fellas.

 

[Hamno]

My own experience,

I had a very pronouced stutter as a kid(couldnt get words starting with a B out of me if my life depended on it). Went through speech therapy for awile, and while DRAMATICALLY improved it still comes up from time to time.

I usually talk quickly regardless and if I get stuck on a word just force myself to skip the B in the word and keep talking on without missing a beat(heh, a B-word). 99% of the time people just think i'm talking quickly...but even recently while on the bridge my XO, after sitting in his chair with nothing to do other than listen to me commented "Mr _______, I'v never noticed it before...but do you realize you have a slight stutter?"

Like me, you'll be fighting it for the rest of your life, you'll just have to learn to adapt and overcome it. I do reccomend joining a Toastmasters public speaking club...dramatically helps!

Hamno

 

[S0LID]

I did this for years! It's a bad habit i developed by having low status as a kid. It was horrible, only my close friends and family could understand what i was saying. People assumed I was thick, and always asked "what?" after everything I said, actually people assumed alot of bad character traits about me. All in all it gave me instantly low status.

The oddest thing got me a clear, loud and cool voice.....Listening to Tylers audio seminars over and over. i wasn't even trying to change it. Keep listening to motovational speakers will sort out this horrible sticking point in life. So get all this stuff downloaded onto your ipod.

I'm speaking more like

Hey man!......what's up??

instead of

oritewauupto?

good luck I'm sure you can get passed this

 

[blueangel83]

This is funny

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by blueangel83
This is funny

I know I'm pulling a style now