do you fvck hotter women when you're rich?

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Exactly right. You take one dopey CEO and a homeless guy with razor sharp game, dress them in the same CK suit and put them in the same VIP club. Guess who's going home with a model.
Winner! Dumbest analogy, world history.

Let's take a look at your "argument":
  • So we're taking a dopey CEO who worked his way to the top of the business world? Describe such a man.
  • And now we're throwing in a homeless man (who would be filthy, smell awful, slur his words, have no money or nice shoes, but we'll imagine we got him cleaned up first).
  • But a homeless man with "razor sharp game"? So game trumps millions?
  • Dress them the same (ah, there is the rub. A nice outfit costs $1000).
  • Put them in the same VIP club (who pays the cover for the homeless guy? Who buys his drinks? Where does he take the girls he meets?)
  • Guess who's going home.... (wait - you just said he was homeless).
  • ...With a model? (while we're fantasizing let's make the girl who wouldn't talk to him in the club he couldn't get into be super hot).
And I'll bet any amount of money TheMonkeyKing was raised by a family that had some government assistance (you're welcome). Has he tried telling his mom money doesn't matter?

TheMonkeyKing, get a job.
 

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Stop comparing apples and oranges.
with money
Kind of contradicting yourself there, sausage.

You've essentially added bananas to your 'apples and oranges'.

Call it a sliding scale:

Man with money and game > man with just game > man with just money.

Personally I'm sick and tired of the money threads here. Of course money fcking counts for something. But it doesn't count for everything. And it certainly doesn't count as much as having a personality, unless you just want to attract gold-digging wh0res.

Game can be a substitute for money. But money will never replace game.

Guys who are throwign money at women and relying on it are just Johns and/or beta providers.
 
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...unless they are so skilled at their profession their income is so high they have money to burn and are generous alpha providers who have bigger penises than you.

Moron: game is pretending to act like someone with money.

And you KNOW a guy is frustrated when he calls beautiful young women wh*res.
Money has nothing to do with getting hot women. If you take care of yourself, dress well, speak well, you should be able to have sex with any single hot girl you want.
Exactly! Except:
  • Taking care of yourself requires money
  • Dressing well requires money
  • Speaking well requires you hang out with intellectuals or get an education which requires money
Remember, guys: money doesn't mean anything except it affords you to buy hot women who use you for money.

Still waiting for one of you unemployed pvssies to post one photo of one girl you ever had, in your life.
 

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Winner! Dumbest analogy, world history.

Let's take a look at your "argument":
  • So we're taking a dopey CEO who worked his way to the top of the business world? Describe such a man.
  • And now we're throwing in a homeless man (who would be filthy, smell awful, slur his words, have no money or nice shoes, but we'll imagine we got him cleaned up first).
  • But a homeless man with "razor sharp game"? So game trumps millions?
  • Dress them the same (ah, there is the rub. A nice outfit costs $1000).
  • Put them in the same VIP club (who pays the cover for the homeless guy? Who buys his drinks? Where does he take the girls he meets?)
  • Guess who's going home.... (wait - you just said he was homeless).
  • ...With a model? (while we're fantasizing let's make the girl who wouldn't talk to him in the club he couldn't get into be super hot).
And I'll bet any amount of money TheMonkeyKing was raised by a family that had some government assistance (you're welcome). Has he tried telling his mom money doesn't matter?

TheMonkeyKing, get a job.
Well actually expecting a homeless guy to take a girl home is kinda...tricky
 

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And I'll bet any amount of money TheMonkeyKing was raised by a family that had some government assistance (you're welcome). Has he tried telling his mom money doesn't matter?
Have you banged a woman in the last ten years (or ever) without throwing at least $100 at her first?

Strikes me that it's always the same faces on these threads. Can only assume that their obsession with money is compesation for something else.

Every single relationship coach you hear will say that rich guys are the hardest to work with because their egos dictate to them that their money counts for everything.
 

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Personally I'm sick and tired of the money threads here. Of course money fcking counts for something. But it doesn't count for everything. And it certainly doesn't count as much as having a personality, unless you just want to attract gold-digging wh0res.

Game can be a substitute for money. But money will never replace game.

Guys who are throwign money at women and relying on it are just Johns and/or beta providers.
Who here is saying it's all about money?

My point is: You cannot determine the value of something without keeping all other factors constant.
 

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You cannot determine the value of something without keeping all other factors constant.
You're talking bollox, mate. Nothing is constant on every level especially in the dating market; the only way you'll make you're laboratory-style comparison is if you take two identical men (taking money away from one) and attempt to hook them up with two identical women. It's never going to happen.

As usual, sossuavers seeking black and white answers where there aren't any.
 

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You're talking bollox, mate. Nothing is constant on every level especially in the dating market; the only way you'll make you're laboratory-style comparison is if you take two identical men (taking money away from one) and attempt to hook them up with two identical women. It's never going to happen.

As usual, sossuavers seeking black and white answers where there aren't any.
If you can't see the point I'm making then any further discussion is pointless
 

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Have you banged a woman in the last ten years (or ever) without throwing at least $100 at her first?.
Yes, I spent $8 taking home a 99 rated 19 year old waitress in November. My Facebook friend for about 6 months as of then, she threw herself at me because she saw how gorgeous my girlfriend was. I said "she's not as pretty as you" and she was mine. See my posts from November 2, 2016.

Your argument breaks down when you realize I'm not just dating the most beautiful girl I know, but I have at my disposal every girl I know. I've kissed about 20 gorgeous women this year. They would do anything to take me away from her. She knows this, so she will do anything for me.

But wait, didn't you say money doesn't mean anything?

So here is your formula:

1) Seducing women requires ZERO money.
2) If you DO have money, your women are wh*res who are using you.
 

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PS - The average date in the US costs $170 and on average women put out on the third date, so it takes on average $510 to get laid in the US. But Monkey King thinks spending $100 on a date is enough to make her a prostitute?
 

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If you can't see the point I'm making then any further discussion is pointless
So, enlighten me, what exactly is the point you're making? Be vivid and succinct.

The average date in the US costs $170
You're living in fantasy land Neil. I've previous spent nothing on a girl and got laid. And she was easily a 9/10. And she offered me back. Other times, I might spend £10-20 on drinks, and the same on pizza before taking them home. Call it $25 for the night because they're (mostly) paying half anyway.
 

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So, enlighten me, what exactly is the point you're making? Be vivid and succinct.
It's basic science.

http://sciencing.com/constant-scientific-method-8655782.html

A constant is a variable that does not change. While conducting an experiment, you will need to keep several variables constant for the experiment to produce valid results. In the example where you change the amount of exercise and measure heart rate, for example, you would need to keep the fitness level of the person constant, as well as the type of exercise they do and and the conditions in which they are exercising.
As I said in my original post, you need to keep all other variables constant ie. take the same person and then vary his wealth.

You can't vary all the attributes and try to measure the change in one ie. give one game / make one good looking etc, as the results wouldn't be fair, and you're not testing that specific attribute.
 

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It's basic science
My friend, I've been working in research for the last decade. So as much as I appreciate your point on a theoretical sense, on a practical real world basis, there is little or no discernable difference between money and any other facet of attraction.

https://explorable.com/confounding-variables

You will never control all confounding variables of human attraction in a real world context. So as much as money does matter in part, it's not the only thing that matters. It certainly shouldn't be solely relied upon. Take Neil's dates as an example; are these girls dating/banging him because they like him, or because they like the fact he spunks 200 on every date?
 

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The main thing is to practice until you can go up to a girl on the street with no issues. Sometimes money gives people confidence but the main reason they are getting sucked off is because they are displaying confidence. Money helps no doubt, but would you date a fake girl who has explosive ****s on a toilet? Oh and she is loaded with money and ****... of course you don't wanna be with an empty woman with no personally, my advice would be to get hobbies that make you feel better and then when she gets to know you better your not sitting around watching TV all day.
 

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My friend, there is little or no discernable difference between money and any other facet of attraction. Take Neil's dates as an example; are these girls dating/banging him because they like him, or because they like the fact he spunks 200 on every date?
Wait, I thought you said money is meaningless? Didn't you just contradict yourself, tremendously?

Anyhow, after seeing MonkeyKing's bald-faced, self-serving lies (in bold) readers can judge for themselves: is this girl attracted to the photographer?



Question: How can a woman prove she is really interested in her date, beyond being there for the long term?
 

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Average cost of date in US.

Does MonkeyKing know how averages work? If the average cost is $180 (see link) and he once got laid for less, that means someone else paid more. It doesn't mean the average becomes what he paid. If he had a job he would know that.
And she was easily a 9/10.
Prove it - PM me a photo and I will PM you back her score, if you agree to share it.
 

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@bigneil My friend, you won this argument with your very first post on this thread.

What you are experiencing now is the reaction that comes from the stages of grief. Denial and bargaining. Like when you tell a kid Santa doesn't exist. People shoot the messenger. They don't want to accept the truth.

Everyone in this thread knows you are right. They just don't want to give you the satisfaction. I keep this in mind when I argue with these people.
 

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I thought you said money is meaningless
Please quote where I said this....

PM me a photo and I will PM you back her score
And why would I do that. You'll only score like a 4 or something because you're clearly in a petulant mood. This conversation is going nowhere, as usual.
 

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My friend, I've been working in research for the last decade. So as much as I appreciate your point on a theoretical sense, on a practical real world basis, there is little or no discernable difference between money and any other facet of attraction.

https://explorable.com/confounding-variables

You will never control all confounding variables of human attraction in a real world context. So as much as money does matter in part, it's not the only thing that matters. It certainly shouldn't be solely relied upon. Take Neil's dates as an example; are these girls dating/banging him because they like him, or because they like the fact he spunks 200 on every date?
Listen, I'm not disputing that money isn't going to get you girls by itself. The point I'm making is that with all other things being equal if a woman has a choice between person A with a bank balance of zero, and person A with a bank balance of $10 million, she's probably going to go with the latter.
 

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Please quote where I said this....
Among other quotes, along you said "If Billionaires have issues with women (we all do)".

Regarding rating your women, I would pay $2.50 and post it on Photofeeler and tell you the 3 score, 20 vote score.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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