Do you follow the money or the freedom?

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i see my superiors at work and thinking thats the job i can workmyself up to..and i dont want that. its meaningless to me.
Man I am WITH you. That's the most disconcerting thing about my current job. I'm pretty good at it, but geez I do not care enough about my own company to do what my superiors do. It's a baseless lifestyle to me.

Have multiple sources of money.

Have a job, and in your spare time work on something you enjoy that can make you money.

Save the money from the hobby as much as possible. work that hobby project until it is something you can live on permanently, then go and be free - and then save/invest as much of that money as you can so a. it protects you in case of crisis b. it will be enough to live on when you are older.

Even then, if possible, work another angle for money.

Never, ever suck yourself into one angle - because then you are vulnerable.
This is my plan. Work my job for main income (may eventually transition to something less stressful), I have my retirement investments as another (as well as my house, that I bought simply for location/resale), and eventually find a hobby that can make me some money. Still working on #3.
 
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Well, if we're going by personal experience, chalk one up for the "freedom" side today.

Because of some serious car trouble (it's dead), there is no plausible bus route to get to my job and an Uber would cost me $35 a day. I have no vacation/personal/sick so early in the tenure. There is no workplace arrangement to be had as this is an office with 1,300 people and it's a ruthless, numbers machine that doesn't care. I'm easily replacable if I can't get to work. I'm going to resign on Monday.

On paper, I had it made when I landed this job. A Fortune 100 company with very good benefits and a promising commission structure. Only problem was it was a miserable job. My days were a blur and I was losing my sanity in 3 months. The advertised pay was also exaggerated. In training they advertise 3-4k commission checks, which they attempted to use to put on a spin on the very weak salary. In reality only the top 10% will take home that bigger commission check...by working 60 hours a week and skipping breaks - in other words becoming a goddamn robot. Most others will take home 1200-1500, which is 800-1000 after taxes. Pathetic.

So back to the drawing board...again. Going to just enjoy the holidays with my family and then hit the pavement again in January. Maybe because of the 1 yr emergency fund that I have put away I don't have a sense of urgency to actually stay in these sh*t jobs long, so I job hop. My commitment issues don't extend to just women.

I am really going to try to find work I can be passionate about. These last 3 months I was making a paycheck, but was becoming a zombie. Call me naive, but I do believe life can be more than that. And I'm not saying you have to buy into the life coach scam of "just quit your job and the money will follow!" or "the universe will give you x, y, z if you just believe in yourself." You actually have to go find it. But if we're all passionate about something, and jobs exist in those fields, couldn't we find a happy medium?

My passion is travel. It makes me feel alive and masculine because I'm living with a purpose. I even enjoy helping others with their travel plans and usually do it for free for my friends & family. So something like this https://bootsnall.recruiterbox.com/jobs/fk0hf1t/ would be awesome for me. Not only the nature of the work, but the remote option. It allows me to travel and alleviate my own issues of staying in one place for very long. I could work anywhere with an internet connection.

I put in the application and followed up with the company. The hiring manager said he got 350 applicants, but I looked like I was qualified and he'd reach out if he saw a match. Sadly I don't see many opportunities like this out there. Travel agencies are a dying industry. But this company is legit as I've used them from the customer side.
 
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For some reason the thread didn't bump with my last post.

Any advice or tips on what I can do working remotely/in the travel industry would be appreciated.
 

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Well, if we're going by personal experience, chalk one up for the "freedom" side today.

Because of some serious car trouble (it's dead), there is no plausible bus route to get to my job and an Uber would cost me $35 a day. I have no vacation/personal/sick so early in the tenure. There is no workplace arrangement to be had as this is an office with 1,300 people and it's a ruthless, numbers machine that doesn't care. I'm easily replacable if I can't get to work. I'm going to resign on Monday.

On paper, I had it made when I landed this job. A Fortune 100 company with very good benefits and a promising commission structure. Only problem was it was a miserable job. My days were a blur and I was losing my sanity in 3 months. The advertised pay was also exaggerated. In training they advertise 3-4k commission checks, which they attempted to use to put on a spin on the very weak salary. In reality only the top 10% will take home that bigger commission check...by working 60 hours a week and skipping breaks - in other words becoming a goddamn robot. Most others will take home 1200-1500, which is 800-1000 after taxes. Pathetic.

So back to the drawing board...again. Going to just enjoy the holidays with my family and then hit the pavement again in January. Maybe because of the 1 yr emergency fund that I have put away I don't have a sense of urgency to actually stay in these sh*t jobs long, so I job hop. My commitment issues don't extend to just women.

I am really going to try to find work I can be passionate about. These last 3 months I was making a paycheck, but was becoming a zombie. Call me naive, but I do believe life can be more than that. And I'm not saying you have to buy into the life coach scam of "just quit your job and the money will follow!" or "the universe will give you x, y, z if you just believe in yourself." You actually have to go find it. But if we're all passionate about something, and jobs exist in those fields, couldn't we find a happy medium?

My passion is travel. It makes me feel alive and masculine because I'm living with a purpose. I even enjoy helping others with their travel plans and usually do it for free for my friends & family. So something like this https://bootsnall.recruiterbox.com/jobs/fk0hf1t/ would be awesome for me. Not only the nature of the work, but the remote option. It allows me to travel and alleviate my own issues of staying in one place for very long. I could work anywhere with an internet connection.

I put in the application and followed up with the company. The hiring manager said he got 350 applicants, but I looked like I was qualified and he'd reach out if he saw a match. Sadly I don't see many opportunities like this out there. Travel agencies are a dying industry. But this company is legit as I've used them from the customer side.
I don't quite understand why you are resigning. Are you in immediate danger of being fired?

I mean, go buy a beater car for $1000 this weekend.
 
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I don't quite understand why you are resigning. Are you in immediate danger of being fired?

I mean, go buy a beater car for $1000 this weekend.
Not sure. It's an attendance point system. If I am not fired now, I will be on a final written. There was almost no room for error during the 3 month training period and I believe these 2 days missed will put me right on the brink. Sh*tty because if I'd made it to Jan 1 with clean attendance, I'd have gotten like 23 days PTO for the new year.

If I'm not fired yet and I were to be late an hour again subsequently any time in the next 6 months, I'd be escorted out the door. Not sure what to do. Is it worth the aggravation to show my face on Monday when this is obviously not going to work much longer? I'm not in danger of being on the street any time soon.

I'm confident with my resume I could be back to work at a similar pay within 30 days. I can enjoy the holidays which I would otherwise have to work and look for assignments beginning in early-mid January..
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This thread made me lie this forum a little less.

While at this very moment I am in the 2nd scenario (gotta make money). Of course you should go for your passion. There is always a way to make money off of what you love. Everyone has a niche. Everyone has their place. Talent is overrated.

But I suppose this deafest mindset here is a good thing. More room for the motivated types like myself.
 
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