Do you actually enjoy approaching women #2025 (YES I DO!!!)

[Gamisch]

Obviously inspired by the 20 year old thread that's running now.

Iam converted back to my previous "religion ". I am back to enjoying women for who and what they are, enjoy approach, rejection, flirting, fecking, and even the wishy-washy nature of women. I love the interaction that only women can give a man, the feeling of taking risks that makes me feel alive.

It's a brand new year and we need POSITIVE propaganda. We need to ENCOURAGE each other . Yeah yeah we know that female nature is this and that. We know now...all that negative talk brings us nowhere. It offer NO SOLUTION.

I'm working on myself everyday, so I have reasons to believe my approach is justified. I am the king in my own mind. A boss. With a smooth mouthpiece some serious D game.

Do I enjoy interacting with women? HELL FECKING YEAH!!!

 

[Plinco]

Awesome. Post some field reports

 

[Redwood]

I have mixed feelings about it, but more power to you.

 

[Gamisch]

I have mixed feelings about it, but more power to you.

I get that.

Yet we desperately need some positive content that's more aimed towards a " I can" attitude. If you " study" female nature from a redpill perspective you end up being negative all the time. Before you know it you'll be actively avoiding women and killing your own opportunities.

I feel like we're talking in circles and discouraging each other rather than empowering the board.

Looking back I've realized that 75% of my lays happened due to being overly positive. So yeah this post might be giving..hopium vibes, I still think that we also need more those.

 

[Gamisch]

Awesome. Post some field reports

Going out this weekend I'll post some about it

 

[Redwood]

I get that.

Yet we desperately need some positive content that's more aimed towards a " I can" attitude. If you " study" female nature from a redpill perspective you end up being negative all the time. Before you know it you'll be actively avoiding women and killing your own opportunities.

I feel like we're talking in circles and discouraging each other rather than empowering the board.

Looking back I've realized that 75% of my lays happened due to being overly positive. So yeah this post might be giving..hopium vibes, I still think that we also need more those.

I get it, we do need something positive to kill off the circular conundrum we have here, but personally, I think I've reached the point of indifference (the shadow side, if you will).

 

[Bingo-Player]

Approaching women is a fine way to self develop

But I think thats a key point you have to be learning from each interaction you have, if your not its going to get tiresome fast

There was a cute chick I met at a singles event a few months back we hit it off exchanged numbers

Texting was going good until things started getting a little flirty and I mentioned something about sex

She immediately shut down , went ghost, completely withdrew and later told me she wasn't comfortable with me talking about sex and that was the end of it.

At the time it struck me as a major over reaction and looking back this was a chick with very strong boundaries

I later thought about it and decided it was a stupid thing to say now I probably wouldn't directly reference sex with a woman until the deed is done

Theres was loads of little lessons like that for me back in 2024

 

[jhonny9546]

Since I started working on turning me into a mature man, so from a nice guy, to someone with more backbone and more focus on his life, (still working on, and will till I die), I've noticed one thing:

Those manipulative, feminist, careerist, "head of household" women who don't respect their boyfriends or husbands, avoid me. Even though some, not all, are visibly attracted to me. It's like they smell something in me that their current boyfriends don't have and that drive em crazy.

I may have figured it out, but I'd like your experience to confirm: Does my IDGAF attitude to their bull****, and therefore the fact that I can't be manipulated by them, drive them nuts? The fact that they know they can't control me, make they go crazy?

 

[Gamisch]

Since I started working on turning me into a mature man, so from a nice guy, to someone with more backbone and more focus on his life, (still working on, and will till I die), I've noticed one thing:

Those manipulative, feminist, careerist, "head of household" women who don't respect their boyfriends or husbands, avoid me. Even though some, not all, are visibly attracted to me. It's like they smell something in me that their current boyfriends don't have and that drive em crazy.

I may have figured it out, but I'd like your experience to confirm: Does my IDGAF attitude to their bull****, and therefore the fact that I can't be manipulated by them, drive them nuts? The fact that they know they can't control me, make they go crazy?

It's a stretch BUT ultimately WE decide how the world views us. And I definitely think that women's hypergamous nature makes them ALWAYS lurk to see if the grass is greener somewhere else.

It's nothing different from a woman who starts working out , dressing nice and making more (eye) contact with the opposite sex. Her results will drastically improve ( as in she goes from invisible to being noticed more and more).

I'd say you should cultivate this attitude untill it becomes second nature . Hold on to this believe no matter what. To put it bluntly; when you around women you should strive to ALWAYS have a masculine frame.

Remember that nobody knows who you were yesterday, and nobody cares. Like I don't care if hb8 was hb5 a week ago. I live NOW and not in the past.

 

[GoodMan32]

I don't exactly enjoy approaching a woman (which is no surprise to anyone who's familiar with me)

I'm open to doing more approaches, however.

By the way, I've rethought something I've said on the forum before. I've said before on the forum that if every available straight man stopped approaching gals, we'd see a massive societal shift in less than a year (where gals would start approaching us)

I no longer believe that. As it is, way fewer men approach gals now compared to 20 years ago. Yet it hasn't really led to an increase in gals approaching us. What it's led to is an increase in gals becoming feminist cat ladies (and writing articles titled "How come men don't approach me?")

In other words, even if a woman doesn't get approached, she'd rather become a bitter cat lady than approach a man.

 

[Gamisch]

I don't exactly enjoy approaching a woman (which is no surprise to anyone who's familiar with me)

I'm open to doing more approaches, however.

By the way, I've rethought something I've said on the forum before. I've said before on the forum that if every available straight man stopped approaching gals, we'd see a massive societal shift in less than a year (where gals would start approaching us)

I no longer believe that. As it is, way fewer men approach gals now compared to 20 years ago. Yet it hasn't really led to an increase in gals approaching us. What it's led to is an increase in gals becoming feminist cat ladies (and writing articles titled "How come men don't approach me?")

In other words, even if a woman doesn't get approached, she'd rather become a bitter cat lady than approach a man.

Just like how men ( like you....) rather complain about women than putting in the work to increase the success rate? It's the what thy means?

You are right though.. everyone has too much pride

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

well obviously men have to force themselves to enjoy or embrace this role, even if it means having awkward interactions that result in making the woman uncomfortable or getting perceived as weird/creepy, or they will be forced to be single, alone/sexless, even thought there are escorts/sex workers though, but many will say that is fake and not real, and of course dating apps/online dating are still an option though.

 

[GoodMan32]

well obviously men have to force themselves to enjoy or embrace this role, even if it means having awkward interactions that result in making the woman uncomfortable or getting perceived as weird/creepy, or they will be forced to be single, alone/sexless, even thought there are escorts/sex workers though, but many will say that is fake and not real, and of course dating apps/online dating are still an option though.

It's a catch 22.

A woman complains about having too many men approach her.

Yet (for the most part) a woman doesn't approach a man. Therefore, men have no option but to approach a woman.

If they'd start approaching us, the problem of too many men approaching her would largely (but not entirely) go away (but as I indicated on my last post on this thread, I'm aware the typical woman would rather become a bitter cat lady than approach a man)

Us men can never catch a break. We approach a woman? We're a creep.

We stop approaching? Feminists write the type of articles I mentioned on my last post ("How come men don't approach me?")

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

It's a catch 22.

A woman complains about having too many men approach her.

Yet (for the most part) a woman doesn't approach a man. Therefore, men have no option but to approach a woman.

If they'd start approaching us, the problem of too many men approaching her would largely (but not entirely) go away (but as I indicated on my last post on this thread, I'm aware the typical woman would rather become a bitter cat lady than approach a man)

Us men can never catch a break. We approach a woman? We're a creep.

We stop approaching? Feminists write the type of articles I mentioned on my last post ("How come men don't approach me?")

and it's another reminder that, people and society never say this, but they expect us guys, men, to have common sense for knowing what is creepy/weird behavior when approaching/interacting with women, they expect us to have the social intelligence or social intuition, knowledge in advance to be 100 percent creep-proof or weird-proof when interacting with women, and when guys, men, do approach or make advances on women and it results in negative/awkward reactions from women like i described, people and society, or the law, will get on mens case, make the men feel very stupid and embarassed, thats where i'm getting at in which people and society just naturally expect men to "get it" for knowing what is weird/creepy behavior around women, they just expect us to instinctively know it.

However, some moving comments i read, wish i was told this in my teens or early 20s, it is:

"It's the learning process. EVERY guy goes through that. Every GIRL goes through similar things, where she reacted in some awkward way to a guy, shooed away a guy she regrets shooing away and now assumes probably hates her, etc., etc. The way you deal with it is by continuing to improve socially, so you can be SMOOTH instead of awkward. This is what everyone does, men and women alike. It is part of the GROWING UP PROCESS."

"you gotta break some eggs to make an omellete. im sure i creeped out tons of girls over the years".

Yeah but one thing that needs to be taken into account, is that, the law is obviously on womens side more than mens, as a guy, man, you can't get away with it if you accidentally make the other sex feel uncomfortable, not the other way around.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

#YESIDO!!!

(#wheredembiatchesat???)

 

[GoodMan32]

and it's another reminder that, people and society never say this, but they expect us guys, men, to have common sense for knowing what is creepy/weird behavior when approaching/interacting with women, they expect us to have the social intelligence or social intuition, knowledge in advance to be 100 percent creep-proof or weird-proof when interacting with women, and when guys, men, do approach or make advances on women and it results in negative/awkward reactions from women like i described, people and society, or the law, will get on mens case, make the men feel very stupid and embarassed, thats where i'm getting at in which people and society just naturally expect men to "get it" for knowing what is weird/creepy behavior around women, they just expect us to instinctively know it.

However, some moving comments i read, wish i was told this in my teens or early 20s, it is:

"It's the learning process. EVERY guy goes through that. Every GIRL goes through similar things, where she reacted in some awkward way to a guy, shooed away a guy she regrets shooing away and now assumes probably hates her, etc., etc. The way you deal with it is by continuing to improve socially, so you can be SMOOTH instead of awkward. This is what everyone does, men and women alike. It is part of the GROWING UP PROCESS."

"you gotta break some eggs to make an omellete. im sure i creeped out tons of girls over the years".

Yeah but one thing that needs to be taken into account, is that, the law is obviously on womens side more than mens, as a guy, man, you can't get away with it if you accidentally make the other sex feel uncomfortable, not the other way around.

Well-said.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have ASD? I don't ask as an insult. I ask because (as an autist myself) it appears we have a lot in common.

You're 100% correct when you point out the fact that men risk legal charges if we unknowingly do something "creepy" (therefore, the idea that men have to learn what is/isn't "creepy" through trial and error is an unrealistic idea)

Another problem: For many a woman, creepy=expressing interest in her when you aren't her type

A woman expects us to know ahead of time whether we're her type (and only make a move on her if we're her type)

All the more reason the woman should make a move on the man. One, she doesn't risk legal charges if it turns out the man isn't into her (or if she unknowingly does something "wrong"). Two, if the woman took matters into her own hands (as far as doing the approaching), she could ensure the men she approaches are her type.

If enough gals did that (approaching men who are her type), men like us would be a lot more likely to end up with a woman, therefore less likely to end up in a position where we approach a woman who isn't into us.

 

[GoodMan32]

#YESIDO!!!

(#wheredembiatchesat???)

The sad part is: The man in the picture is probably more likely to get a woman than me (despite his fatness, hairiness, and below average looks)...simply because of his confidence.