Do women toy with men just for fun?!

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Yesteday I was standing outside a coffee shop near a university campus with this chick I knew, she wasn't pretty or anything. Anyway inside there were two chicks sitting inside the shop next to the window looking at me and giggling. They must have been 20 or 19 years old, pretty good looking. I caught them looking at me and giggling so I smiled back in which it made them giggle even more.

I decided what the heck, lets try some C&F game see what is going on here. So I wrote down on a piece of paper "what are you laughing at"?? and stuck it against the window which caused the chicks to laugh hard. So one of the chick's wrote something against a piece of paper and stuck it against the glass where it read "YOU"! and they start laughing again.

I took that as a good sign and I decided to go inside and see if I got something here. As I walked inside I noticed that they had more girls there with them so there were 5 of them. I walked in towards the two girls I interact with and asked them using C&F: "so tell me now that I am here, what is so funny about me"?. I expected a good responds but they didn't even look at me and just said "nothing". I tried again "is it my big black winter coat?, I know since I am so tall I sometimes get mistaken for a bear". Then one of the girls without looking at me just said plainly "nah we were just bored". I wished them all the best and left the place.

WTF!??? How did I lose them so fast?! were they just playing with me, some sh1t test I didn't pass, or they lost interest with my questions?! did the new group of girls that joined them caused some kind of new dynamic I wasn't aware of?
 

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Short answer: Yes, men AND women alike, folks like to fock with other folks heads and get giggles outta it. Plus, since 99% of dudes would just shrugged and walked away, you prolly really threw 'em for a loop by coming in!

Congrats on the approach, keep sarging! :box:
 

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mzilla2 said:
Short answer: Yes, men AND women alike, folks like to fock with other folks heads and get giggles outta it.

Congrats on the approach, keep sarging! :box:
Yeah you are probably right.

Now in a club or a bar it is easier to isolate a chick from her herd, but does anyone else have better idea how to do so in a fixed setting like a coffee house??
 

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Yo DJDamage,

The dynamic at work here is NOT new, soldier. It's just the same ole "I'm just an Attention Whhore whose full of the PRIDE of life, and likes to think of myself as better than other random people because I'm young and have absolutely NO concept yet of what it means to be a worthwhile human being in a civilized society" type behavior.

Again, congratulations on taking the battle TO them, soldier! When faced with a potential prospect, never opt to live with ANY regrets----Either Sarge or DIE!

When standing face to face with a courageous MAN of flesh and blood, most quirky chicks like those two SUDDENLY lose their desire to PLAY-----hence, the Automatic Biiitch Shields and the icy responses you received from them.

Common decency SHOULD have dictated that they at the very LEAST show you the courtesy of looking your way while you stood there.

But, alas, as my Granddady used to say:

"Victory, ain't no such thing as common sense. 'Cuz what's common to SOME, is NOT common to ALL."

Fight on!
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
When standing face to face with a courageous MAN of flesh and blood, most quirky chicks like those two SUDDENLY lose their desire to PLAY-----hence, the Automatic Biiitch Shields and the icy responses you received from them.

Common decency SHOULD have dictated that they at the very LEAST show you the courtesy of looking your way while you stood there.
Yeah I started losing interest in them as soon as they didn't give me any courtesy what so ever. I tend to lose patience rather quickly if I detect any sign of disrespect.
 

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You are talking about GIRLS, not women.

Chicks that age know that guys between 18-25 or even older will fall all over themselves just to get a peek at their pink panties. Why not have fun if you have all the power?

All that sh!t changes in a few years though. They start to hit their mid 20's, the hips get a little wider, they start to see a few wrinkles and they know they can't afford to piss on every guy they meet.
 

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DJD, phuck those chicks. You comported yourself like a true DJ. I don't know about many of the other guys on this forum, but speaking for myself...

I woulda played around from outside, the other side of the glass barrier, and probably wonder the rest of the day what would have happened if I'd gone inside and approached them. And no doubt, I would have fooled myself gleefully that they really dug me! LOL :)

Good job man. You have nothing to be ashamed of or to feel bad about. You were the winner.
 

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Agreed. You did a great job. They only thing you could have done better, was tape a sign on the outside of the window saying STUPID BYTCHES with arrows pointing at them. Then again, you would have been giving them too much there.
 

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I know why they dropped interest. Because it is a girl thing (natural if you must) in groups to herd together to drum up interest in a guy. You approached them with 'whats so funny', and not a word from the girls. Why? Because one of them would have to take responibility for the idea, and you should know oh so well that that won't happen. There was probably some underlying interest there, but it's the whole group mentality that has you caught.

From the flip side of things! :)
 

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Yeah, you did good. Totally disarmed them. But they were in "repel" mode, and couldn't reconcile themselves with the idea of letting a guy into their little "club." I've experienced that sort of mentality from groups of gals, too. You did about the best possible.
 

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DJDamage said:
I decided what the heck, lets try some C&F game see what is going on here. So I wrote down on a piece of paper "what are you laughing at"?? and stuck it against the window which caused the chicks to laugh hard. So one of the chick's wrote something against a piece of paper and stuck it against the glass where it read "YOU"! and they start laughing again.

I took that as a good sign and I decided to go inside and see if I got something here. As I walked inside I noticed that they had more girls there with them so there were 5 of them. I walked in towards the two girls I interact with and asked them using C&F: "so tell me now that I am here, what is so funny about me"?. I expected a good responds but they didn't even look at me and just said "nothing".
They probably thought you were coming in to kick their asses.

Rather than acknowledge them laughing, I would have been ultra-cheesy with the notes, throw in some "creepy guy" winks...
"Hey, come here often?"
"What's your sign? (get it?)"
"I'll have a large cappuccino, with an extra shot, thanks." (then turn and ignore)

You didn't do a good job of mirroring. You "confronted" them rather than play along.

But, props for doing SOMETHING versus nothing like an average douche.:rockon:
 

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DJDamage said:
...WTF!??? How did I lose them so fast?! were they just playing with me, some sh1t test I didn't pass, or they lost interest with my questions?! did the new group of girls that joined them caused some kind of new dynamic I wasn't aware of?
You didn't play with them enough. You seemed too eager and didn't increase their interest level before approaching them. I would have played the note against the window game a bit more before going it. The silliness of it may have raised their interest level in seeing that you were at least a funny, off the cuff type of guy.
 

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Yeah I thought about continuing with the notes but I had to go and beside's it feels kinda stupid to stand outside and entertain a bunch of girls inside. I did however thought afterwards I could have written one more note after they wrote "you" by writing: "oh come on, I know you both in love with me".

As for the suggestion they thought I was going to kick their ass, I doubt they thought that. I was smiling at them and my tone of voice was not serious. If they were in fact actually laughing at me and amusing themselves then it worked out perfectly that they saw this as a confortation and they clamed up.
 

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What r u laughing at? Weak&potentially insecure.

They were behind the windows and giving you all kinds of IOIs. You were the selector out ther man and they were ur *****s.. Just smile ****ily and look like you have hard time choosing, then blink eye for the whor..chick you like.. shake head then in disapproval (negggg) and choose other chick.. ;) Or just point at them and laugh ur ass off, then turn ur back to them.

Personally I wouldn't approach the whole set in situation like this (no wingman), but just keep having fun with them (good practise anyway).
 

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DJDamage said:
Yeah I thought about continuing with the notes but I had to go and beside's it feels kinda stupid to stand outside and entertain a bunch of girls inside. I did however thought afterwards I could have written one more note after they wrote "you" by writing: "oh come on, I know you both in love with me"....
Maybe stupid but don'cha think it would have piqued their interest? Women like guys who step out of their normal comfort zone (at least interesting women do).
 

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Yo DJDamage,


I understand what some of the highly decorated troops are saying here, and although it may have merit, I tend to believe that your military manuevers in this theatre of war were ON POINT.

So don't second guess yourself TOO much here. We can always say that you should have done THIS instead of THAT, or whatever. But bottom line is that these chicks were NOT interested in you ENOUGH.

Sure, they may have had SOME interest, but the minute you even THINK about doing something that's outside of who YOU are to get a chick, you're on a slippery slope. Because even after you do it, and even if you pull it off, afterwards you'll FEEL incongruent.

Changing your strategy to get a girl is sometimes wise AND justifiable, but playing little NOTE games outside a public restaurant for 2 MORE hours in HOPES that they'll REALLY like you would have been the same as becoming their dancing little monkey. (yeah...I know I'm exaggerating here...lol)

Why amuse these Biitches when you can instead create a put up or shut up type of situation? By taking the approach you did, you saved yourself time, potential regrets, and self-respect.

So IF it's true that these Biitches really WERE attracted to you, your approach not fitting EXACTLY the one they would have preferred would have NO bearing on their continuing to flirt with you.

I've found that groups of WOMEN are usually open to at least carrying on a casual conversation with a cool guy---but Biiitches ARE NOT.

In other words, women who have a high ENOUGH interest in you look for excuses to qualify you-----not DISQUALIFY you.


March on.
 

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LionOne said:
Personally I wouldn't approach the whole set in situation like this (no wingman)
Hey I knew the odds were stocked against me but I realise something a long time ago: When it comes to seduction and women, nothing is ever written in stone. I think it was Senor fingers who said that there is no such thing as a perfect moment to approach, the experience of it all is the perfect moment.
 

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Francisco's got a good point here. Upping the ante can work like mad in situations like these. It may take a few misfires, but eventually you'll recogize the situation and run with it.
 

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Francisco's got a good point here. Upping the ante can work like mad in situations like these. It may take a few misfires, but eventually you'll recogize the situation and run with it.
Exactly. I look at life as a sitcom, I'm always on the lookout for instances where something can be embellished to the level of comedic absurdity. I either make a mental note of it for later use in an anecdote (think of shows like "The Daily Show" or "The Soup").

Other times (if I'm with someone or approaching someone) I'll say something about the experience that we're sharing. The point is that if it's something outside of the ordinary, it's more interesting to most people. As long as you're comfortable in putting yourself out there, fun and interesting people are usually game to go along for the ride.
 

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STR8UP said:
Chicks that age know that guys between 18-25 or even older will fall all over themselves just to get a peek at their pink panties. Why not have fun if you have all the power?
Lol, true.

Fact is, especially for girls at their peak then - GAMES and flexing their cooter-power to tool guys are the BEST part of "relationships" and life!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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