Do women initially equate clean cut men as nice and boring?

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I don't have any tattoos, piercings or jewelry, since I am not sheep nor crave attention. Sadly, I think it hurts my chances with women, but I will not conform.
 

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The appeal of tattoos and piercings for some women isn't the tattoos and piercings themselves but what it says about you.

Ironically, we're slowly getting to a stage where the things it used to say about you; being a rebel, not conforming, wild etc, etc (more so the rebel and not conforming) is now having the opposite effect.

In other words, those things are superficial representations of character...however nothing says more about who you are than your behaviour.
 

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Your wardrobe says a lot about you.

Tatts, piercings, and skinny jeans are considered wardrobe styles. Clean cut, no tatts, and slim jeans is another wardrobe style. Wear what you think makes you look and feel good, some women dress half naked and it makes them feel good- but what does that say about them?
 

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Your wardrobe says a lot about you.

Tatts, piercings, and skinny jeans are considered wardrobe styles. Clean cut, no tatts, and slim jeans is another wardrobe style. Wear what you think makes you look and feel good, some women dress half naked and it makes them feel good- but what does that say about them?
It means that's the type of attention they were seeking.
 

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How about you reframe your thoughts like this:

The way you are will actually INCREASE your chances with women because they notice you are confident in yourself not to conform to the things other people do, just for the sake of fitting in.

Having no jewellery or tattoos can give a more masculine and mature impression to women, which they of course find attractive.

It's all in the way you think about your self image I think. Always have a positive self image. Even if you change your mind and decide to get jewellery and get tatted up ( for yourself and not to fit in), you can reframe that also in a positive light. E.g: having jewellery and tatts gives a cool, young, rebellious impression that women like also.
 

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You don't have to have tats if you have a banging bod. A lot of the females get drawn into the tats, but at this time I too think it's redundant. Build your bod, wear some jewelry like a gold chain or bracelet. Have nice underwears.
 

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Depends on where you live but simple style is best. Plain black or white shirt, nice pair of jeans or pants and a good pair of shoes and you're set. Get yourself some matt clay for your hair too. Tats & jewellery are completely unnecessary.
 

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ive got two half sleeve tattoos and since ive got them ive defenitley got more attention off women
 

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Women like tattoos on men. It sets you apart and is attractive. Like others have pointed out what tats you have is like a style of dress. If you do not act consistent with how you appear then you are not congruent and this turns off women.

I would never get a tattoo, I just don't think it's smart putting something on your body you can't take off. If I put one of those on my body it would be completely inconsistent with my character, and therefor hurt me.
 

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I am always clean shave + dress etc.... in certains parts of the nightlife i'll get more attention etc.

However in general, I found that if I didn"t "clean or shave" myself as much. I would pick up or attract more easily.

So yeah when a "little dirty" sometimes I fel t I had more chance
 

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Looking back is there a type of tattoo that would increase this type of interest over the others?
all my tattoos are entirely my own ideas and designs (drawn and brought to life by my artist) that way when people ask why i have them i have a story to tell , which in turn leads to further avenues of conversation

they also look awesome
 

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all my tattoos are entirely my own ideas and designs (drawn and brought to life by my artist) that way when people ask why i have them i have a story to tell , which in turn leads to further avenues of conversation

they also look awesome
I was asking about sleeves or a various placement that seems to be hot.
 

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I think it depends on the person. I'm edgy, I don't have tattoos or piercings, but I routinely get told I'm a "bad boy" or "I'm trouble"...

Your behaviour dictates what a woman thinks of you, not a tattoo.
 

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Its not the clean cut that turns women off, its the nice guy vibes.

I dont have any tatoo, no piercing, no current beard side head shaved fashion style yet I get attention from women on the streets and in meetings why?

Surely not because Im goodlooking but because I made my body a lean swollen machine which shows when I walk with thirts and tank tops and because I dress with the right clothes in formal meeting, think of the stereotypical villain from action movies with a suit, same behaviour and body language.

If I was still skinny fat and insecure like in past, no amount of tatoos or piercing would have help, probably the other way around.

What I believe those things signal is that you're ready to challenge rules instead of submitting to them, thats what turns women on.
 

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I was asking about sleeves or a various placement that seems to be hot.
urrm ive started from shoulder down to the elbow on both arms , looks really good in t-shirts / short sleeve shirts

undecided on whether im going to complete them yet
 

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As others have said it is who you are that matters more.

@Bingo-Player has more attention since tattoos but his tattoos it's worth pointing out are artistic expressions he came up with himself for himself so it's a built in conversation starter that is personal. A nice side effect.

Different women like different things appearance wise, but universally appealing are fit strong bodies, clear skin, groomed hair & face (however you prefer to wear your hair & facial hair), and confident smile & presentation & sharp wardrobe.

Never make a permanent change for something ephemeral.

Only make permanent changes because they represent your core authenticity. Otherwise you are seeking external validation and it won't make you happy. Plastic surgeons get rich because people seeking external validation want to make this change or that...

Thinking THEN I'll be desirable.

No. If you think you have to make an irreversible change to yourself for some external reason (women are external to you) then stop and reexamine that thinking.

It's flawed.
 

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If a man gets a tattoo in order to attract women, I personally think he is getting it for the wrong reason. To me that says, he doesn't think that he's enough, as he already is. He's trying to remedy his insides from the outside. A man who is solid in himself and wants to get a tattoo, for himself, I say go for it, if that is what he wants. It is the solidity of the man inside, that wears the tattoo, that matters most.
 
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If a man gets a tattoo in order to attract women, I personally think he is getting it for the wrong reason. To me that says, he doesn't think that he's enough, as he already is. He's trying to remedy his insides from the outside. A man who is solid in himself and wants to get a tattoo, for himself, I say go for it, if that is what he wants. It is the solidity of the man inside, that wears the tattoo, that matters most.
This.

Its degrading to do things you don't believe in just to attract women. Understand that you will NEVER be happy in a relationship where you cannot freely live by your core values. Women are the opposite. They can only be happy when they submit to a stronger authority. Without authority.. women are miserable. This is why feminists are so confused and angry. They tell themselves they want men to roll over and do what they want.. but they get no satisfaction from it. On the other hand... men get loads of satisfaction from dominating a woman.

So anytime you get the urge to do something because you think it will make a woman happy.. ask yourself if that is your only reason for doing it. If the answer is "YES" then don't do it. Respect yourself.
 

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This.

Its degrading to do things you don't believe in just to attract women. Understand that you will NEVER be happy in a relationship where you cannot freely live by your core values. Women are the opposite. They can only be happy when they submit to a stronger authority. Without authority.. women are miserable. This is why feminists are so confused and angry. They tell themselves they want men to roll over and do what they want.. but they get no satisfaction from it. On the other hand... men get loads of satisfaction from dominating a woman.

So anytime you get the urge to do something because you think it will make a woman happy.. ask yourself if that is your only reason for doing it. If the answer is "YES" then don't do it. Respect yourself.
Bro your posts are the best but just one question. Would you sacrifice being with a woman to get ahead in other places? Lets say you want to make connections in the real world and the important people or investors who you want to meet would value you or take you more seriously if they knew you were married. You would get invited to more places, know more people , have more respect just because you had a wife. Heck, you could say you would get immigration status from a new government and flee a war torn country if you showed the government you were married (but possibly "beta") .

Would you sacrifice?
 
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