Do we chase or do we pursue?

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I'm having a ton load of fixins especially, on my writting.

can anyone describe the differeence betwwen these two words?

I hate to come off needy to a woman , I know this needy' ness kills attraction so I avoid it at all cost .
But some of my encounters as been reviewed here previously have been half assed'.
So I dont like to chase, we dont chase as men, but we should pursue her.

how do we tell the difference between these two without being needy and creepy?


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Chasing intails that the object you are chasing is needed by you and if you don't get it you won't be fullfilled. You often don't know when to stop and move on..

Persuing involes "attaing" something because you want it (but you don't attach a need to getting it). This means you could move on and forget about the object at anytime.

They are very similar in that they both involve reaching a goal, or getting something (the girl) in the end. But when you chase, you often wear the "desperation hat" because you are attaching a need to the thing you are chasing. When you persue, you are more inclined to detect interest levels and such because you are acting more instintivley.

Chasing is reactive.. You are reacting to what she does and acting upon those reactions.
Persuing is proactive.. You have some sort of plan, and control the situations..
 

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The words mean the same thing.

I'm not being facetious or anything. They are the same. They don't vary in degree or anything like "big" and "huge" would.
 

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Neither, we "attract." We are here to become the mature men that are attractive women and people in general.
 

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Chasing involves having a scarcity mentality. Guys circling clubs with their eyes darting around are chasing - and losing value as the women witness this. Pursuing involves having an abundance mentality and having the guts to take it to the next step when an opportunity presents itself, or having the strength to create an opportunity.

For example:
- Do something excellent (good-looking, high social value, athletic, whatever..) that attracts women
- Women will notice and move within your proximity
- Now if you choose to approach these women, you are pursuing, not chasing.

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I don't think girls are really going to know the difference. The bottom line is that you should always pursue. Its a numbers game out there and if you don't pursue your not going to have a lot of success.

I think what people are saying is that chasing is more related to needy and desperate, but those two words are pretty different than chasing.
 

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Never ever chase or pursue. Let the women do all the chasing and pursuing. The only women worth knowing are those that chase after you. End of story.

Why waste precious time, money and energy running after something you might, if you are very lucky, get. The one that chases after you is a sure thing. And don't believe there are not women after you either. They are right under your nose, and you miss them by a hair's breath because you are too busy looking for that perfect 10 or too busy running all those chat up lines and moves through your brain.

As the words of a recent song said.

"Sometimes you walk by the good ones
'Cos you're trying to hard, too hard to see them"

Be open to be chased, let them come to you. I have never chased after a woman, I have never asked a woman out on a date or asked for a phone number nor used any daft chat up opening lines, yet I have scores of notches on my bedpost with HB5 - HB9s.

You are all trying too hard, let go and see what happens.

You are the prize, let them queue to claim you.
 

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here's a thought,

how about if a chick likes you, it does not really matter what you do, and if when you persue/chase and she goes away, she did not really like you that much anyway and you probably never did have a chance ...not every woman is going to like you no matter how hard you try.

in my experience women rarely chase, so you need to put forth effort, you are waisting your time trying to build attraction, if it's not already there... but if you have the time to waste, feel free to do so. I don't know how many times Rollo has said ...it's a chemical thing she feels it or she don't ..maybe not in those words correct me if mis read what he was trying to communicate.

Anti Dump machine and pook were about finding an interested woman ...try that sometime instead of letting the sosuave thing take control

BE A MAN and go after her, if she don't come willingly, let her go and find one who likes you.

take it for what it is

:rockon:
 

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my collocation dictionary says that chase is generally used with words/phrases thusly:

police chase
wild good chase
abandon the chase
give up the chase
thrill of the chase
high speed car chase


And for pursue:


further pursue
energetically pursue
doggedly pursue
effectively pursue
successfully pursue
ability to pursue
freedom to pursue

and of course the famous line from the declaration of independence "the pursuit of happiness" which was taken to mean by those in the know to be consistently doing things that made you happy.

So pursue seems to be associated with consistently attaining things you desire, while chase seems to imply that that which you are chasing is actively trying to get away from you.

And I believe It was Thomas Jefferson, who so eloquently stated (I may be paraphrasing just a wee bit):




FUKK THAT CHASING SHYT!
 

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Groovy man! I did put it in my head. Its grained there, solid.
chasing is needy
pursue is persistent to what you want , get the chick and it making it fun for yourself.
I was confused cause I , in my head romantised alot. but It doesntg come into play if you the man make it happend. So its our responsibilty to make this happiness come true ... game on!
 

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Solomon said:
I think in clubs is different, I circle clubs all the time, I'm not chasing but observing. I'm checking the scene out i.e.

--Those two girls, is the one in the red single? she is clutching a big purse
-- The girl in the black is talking to the guy in the blue yet she still makes eye contact
--That 4set is pretty smashed, who is the hottest?

^^things like that, you never know which opprounity you may miss if you don't walk around,

chasing to me is--a girl teling you she will save the last dance and you going up to her asking for it....
I'm not saying you stand still - of course you don't want to be a wallflower in the club. You want to move around and socialize. It's the attitude you have while you're at the club that matters. Ask yourself WHY are you circling the club? Is it because you're being friendly and talking to everyone and making new contacts or is it because you see that bar close is getting closer and you're desperate to find a woman before then? If your attitude is based in fear you need to stop.

You know what I'm saying? In your observations you MUST have seen the kind of guys I'm talking about. There are always some.
 

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Night Owl said:
Never ever chase or pursue. Let the women do all the chasing and pursuing. The only women worth knowing are those that chase after you. End of story.

Why waste precious time, money and energy running after something you might, if you are very lucky, get. The one that chases after you is a sure thing. And don't believe there are not women after you either. They are right under your nose, and you miss them by a hair's breath because you are too busy looking for that perfect 10 or too busy running all those chat up lines and moves through your brain.

As the words of a recent song said.

"Sometimes you walk by the good ones
'Cos you're trying to hard, too hard to see them"

Be open to be chased, let them come to you. I have never chased after a woman, I have never asked a woman out on a date or asked for a phone number nor used any daft chat up opening lines, yet I have scores of notches on my bedpost with HB5 - HB9s.

You are all trying too hard, let go and see what happens.

You are the prize, let them queue to claim you.
I've taken this exact approach my whole life with women, but it's rarely gotten me anywhere. But again, everyone has different experiences on here..like I say, "Let your own experience be your guide with women".

My personal experience has taught me that the GREATER majority of times, an attractive/hot woman won't "vibe" you(won't show interest, acknowledge you, smile at you, etc.) even if you're good-looking or her so-called "type". And as far as I can tell, this seems to happen to A LOT of guys. So, based on that, I'd say a guy really has NO OTHER choice but to cold-approach a hottie whenever he can. Because I can assure you based on my experience, that MOST OF THE TIME, if you wait for "vibes", you'll literally be waiting your life away.

I must also agree that "pursuing" and "chasing" the way I've always understood it, means the same. If you're gonna go for a chick, do it in a way that conveys to her that you don't have to be doing this, you don't need her, that you're doing her a favor by giving her your time. But it has to be done with seductive charm, not in a distant way.

So yeah, in conclusion, I've taken the, "Let them come to me, I don't chase women" approach. In my experience, it hasn't worked well AT ALL, except with a few exceptions. It really is a numbers game. I know, it's ruthless and f*cked up, but what can ya do? No one said life is easy for a guy. That's why, I'd much rather spend my time messing around with attractive CLEAN escorts/prostitutes here and in Amsterdam during the time that I'm not reeling anything in. A ton less of a hassle, to the point, no beating around the bush, you know what you're gonna get, it's guaranteed. I've noticed too, since I've been messing around with escorts/prostitutes, it's been much easier to toss a hot chick to the curb or being rejected. Why? Because of OPTIONS.
 

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I recently started hanging out with a new wingman who has a completely independent and non-needy attitude, which is very refreshing. He believes that women should be chasing him and he doesn't put up with any crap from them at all. I can totally respect that.

We went out last weekend and started sarging. Right away I noticed something that concerned me. Anytime any woman gave him or I any hint of an IOD he suggested we bail. Don't get me wrong, this guy gets pvssy all the time, but it seems to be mostly trashy women. By not pursuing at all he was giving up the power to choose who he'd end up with. That's when I realized that he might be too far on the other end of the scale.

At that point I started thinking about what would be the perfect balance a man should shoot for between the two extremes. On one extreme side you have the AFC guys who are chasing everything at once, afraid of losing out. On the other side you have the ultra independent guys who insist the women do the approaching and end up with whatever falls in their lap.

I think we all have established chasing is bad. Heck, doing anything with a fear-based scarcity mentality is bad. Women will have all the power. But we have to be careful not to let the pendulum swing too far in the other direction. If you let the women do all the chasing/pursuing you are letting them shape your reality and again you are giving them power. A man has the most power when he is able to stay in balance between all of the extremes.
 

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edger said:
So, based on that, I'd say a guy really has NO OTHER choice but to cold-approach a hottie whenever he can. Because I can assure you based on my experience, that MOST OF THE TIME, if you wait for "vibes", you'll literally be waiting your life away.
World of difference between "approaching" and "chasing".
 

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How bout gather materal processes and let those babes find you. Then just learn to decern from the gold diggers from those who really dig you for you.

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Lol, chase=pursuit. Same exact thing. Look it up .
 
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