Do real men cheat?

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BIG EEE ZEE - arent guys like u usually the ones that girls walk all over and the whole reason sosuave exists in the first place??? seriously what u said about not getting girls to like u or have good convo going, that is VERY VERY WRONG, because sosuave exists for the sole purpose to give the best advice possible on how to deal with women and their unpredictable behaviors!!!
 

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This is know if shes hot and the one I am dating is colder than a ice cube I am going for it and if she the one I am with asked if I cheated I will tell her the truth "I didn't have sex with that woman."

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There is nothing wrong with not being exclusive but you do not have to hide it, just let her know, you do not have to lie. And if you see something better go for it always.
 

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Look at it this way. Cheating on your woman effectively gives her licence to cheat on you!

I simply don't condone it and have never done it.
 
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My point of veiw is I could never cheat on anyone. Just grab your balls and say the relatoinships over. If they cheat or you cheat it'll be the focus of everything that happens from then on out. Plus if you are the man(or they are happy with you and you fullfill their needs) then they shouldn't cheat. Same goes for you.

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I agree with MacDiddy.

The answer to this question is actually quite simple, best illustrated by a conversation I had with my new brother-in-law the other day about my sister (his wife.)

Him: "Yeah about drugs, blablabla, I mean I like to be honest but.."
Me: "Do whatever you want, just don't get caught"
Him: "Amen, brother."

Once you realize that THE END RESULT is all that matters, and you are smart enough to watch your own ass then cheating doesn't matter.

Cheating is pretty risky because of diseases, the chance of impregnating a girl and other reasons. But, as long as you don't get caught then you're still a good man in my book.

I don't care if my brother-in-law cheats on my sister. But, if he lets my sister find out and go through all the mental anguish associated with that then I'll fvcking kill him.

Likewise, if the situation was reversed and my sister did the opposite I would stop returning her calls because her new husband is a good guy.

The main idea is your life and the results your actions have on your life are a higher priority than morality. Trying to be a hero and sacrificing your own well-being for the sake of morality is for AFC males. Just evaluate whether you really want to cheat with the person when the opportunity arrives and go from there. Make the choice based on reason, not on morality or the societally programmed guilt you may feel.

Just ask yourself, "Do I want to have sex with this person in my lifetime?" If the answer is yes then go for it because the opportunity may not come up again.

Morality is cool, but people (AFC males, especially) sacrifice too much of their lives in the name of it.

You cheated in school because the school system was broken. Take a look around, our social system is broken, too. Don't go around killing people, but don't stifle your desires, either.

And, above all: Don't get caught.
 
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grr said:
I don't care if my brother-in-law cheats on my sister. But, if he lets my sister find out and go through all the mental anguish associated with that then I'll fvcking kill him.
this is unbelievable.
 

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Well its all hypothetical anyway, but:

Why? Its the lazy cheaters who can't cover their tracks that should be looked down upon, not the cheaters who take care of themselves and the people around them proving they're "real men".

Everyone has dirty laundrey, what makes you think your strict adherence to faithfulness makes you morally better than me? (For reference this is a new development for me so I've never actually cheated on anyone I've dated.)

Look at it this way: Speeding too fast can cause car accidents and kill people. Is speeding too fast immoral? No, but killing people is.

Cheating does not cause issues, the possible side effects of cheating like STD's, or her finding out can cause issues. Until she finds out or gets a disease I must assume he acted responsibly. Get it?

Also, don't put women (even if they're related) on a pedestal. For all I know he could be temporarily cheating on my sister because of emotional abuse, but still dedicated to seeing the relationship through. Trying to make a moral judgment call as a third party is largely a waste of time.

And as I established earlier the result is all that matters, anyway.

But if she found out? Psh, then I know he fvcked up.

Why waste time thinking about life's periodic moral dilemmas, instead of living it and letting the chips fall where they may? We only have so much time, focus on results.

If you want sex on the side go for it, just be smart about it and don't get caught. I hate the term faithful because it implies effort. Most of you guys are probably just faithful because you're complacent & society says its wrong anyway. You take the lazy & boring road in the name of your "superior" morality.

In the end it largely comes down to your dedication to the girl and her value to you weighed against the risk of getting caught. Since we largely meet girls who AREN'T keepers, we should be open to cheating for our own best interests.

I've decided I'm sick of being responsible for stupid girls: Since I'm 23 its probably going to be a lonnnng time before I find one that has her own sustainable standards for personal responsibility. Girls can go from guy to guy until they're 40 with almost no negative feedback influencing them not to be wh0res. That's the reality of our new feminine-free society, today. May as well have an outlook that can compete with it.
 
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skip2mylou781 said:
BIG EEE ZEE - arent guys like u usually the ones that girls walk all over and the whole reason sosuave exists in the first place??? seriously what u said about not getting girls to like u or have good convo going, that is VERY VERY WRONG, because sosuave exists for the sole purpose to give the best advice possible on how to deal with women and their unpredictable behaviors!!!

dont go making assumptions, im not walked all over by women. and i dont appreciate the shot at my manhood. in fact, unless your in an ivy-league engineering program and are busting as much ass as i am, i think its a safe bet i'll be more of a man (especially in the power and respect department) than you will. dont go shooting your mouth off without thinking about it.

oh, and grr? you said "Why waste time thinking about life's periodic moral dilemmas, instead of living it and letting the chips fall where they may?"
thats what im talking about, you have to think about these things. life requires deep thought and contemplation. which is why most of the most intelligent men in the world spend so much damned time on it. living for the moment is what ends you up as a 40 something middle management who still goes to the clubs with the 21 year olds, trying to get some tail.

I dont know about you, but i dont want to be "that guy"

most of the people here seem to have the 'late teens, early twenties' mindset. those arent real men. they dont have positions of power, or respect, and often dont have control over the destiny of much more than themselves. Being a man is about so much more than getting tail. and so suave is actually for two things. one is getting women. but the greats like pook and AD stressed that by being a real man, you wont need to look for women. so, sosuave is really about being a man. a real, honest to god man. not a PUA, or some suave kid who can get ladies.
 

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Real men don't put themselves in the position to cheat. If you feel the need to cheat on your girl, then you haven't been patient enough to find the right one. Date girls all you want, but remember when you start up a LTR, you're selling your soul away.
 

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grr said:
Everyone has dirty laundrey, what makes you think your strict adherence to faithfulness makes you morally better than me?
exactly. it's your sister, man. you don't care if her husband cheats on her, and in your mind you've already told him that he can. the only way you would do anything about it is if she found out and became upset.

you know what I read that as? you only time you'll do anything about it is when you absolutely have to or else you risk losing social proof. grow a pair.
 
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