Do money and looks matter at different stages?

[El Payaso]

Common red pill knowledge dictates that most women in the younger age bracket wh0re it up while they're young so they usually go for the most attractive man they can secure.

As the wall approaches, they start looking for the highest resource wealthy man they can secure.

On the flip side, most red pill people will say that men's value appreciates with age so work hard while young so you can gain as much value as possible.

In that case, can it be rationalized that money and looks matter at different stages in life for men?

 

[Bible_Belt]

I'd estimate the transition from wh0re to husband hunter happens at about age 26.

 

[Serenity]

Money and looks is not what gets them, it's the cause of money and looks that does. Money and looking good is proof that you're a man that knows his sh!t, he's got his life figured out, he works for his well-being and doesn't mess around. He's a man that can take of himself and doesn't need a woman to support him.

For women it's more about what character features such a man has that provides security and stability. The resources themselves can vanish, but there's security in knowing the man knows how to gain it. So it would not be a safe choice if he inherited a ton of money or won the lottery, but if he gained the money through his own actions and way of being that's a man of value.

The money and the looks in itself is nearly useless. Looks can deteriorate and money can be used up, but a man's will can bring in more and maintain his body healthy and strong.

 

[Slash Dolo]

I'm pretty good looking and have a good amount of money at 27. I don't think looks and money equate to diddly sh*t when it comes to banging girls. Maybe the looks to a degree have made things easier, but I got no special attention back when I was a poor college student and I don't get any special attention now that I have a 4k TV, a house and a nice vehicle. The ONLY thing that matters to women is how you make them feel in the long run.

Look at these serial killers in prison that get love letters on the daily. They have absolutely nothing except infamy. No cash, most are ugly as sin; they just have the infamy. But that infamy creates a feeling inside of a woman; you are viewed as a unique, once in a lifetime specimen. That's the key. It's all about how you make them feel. And these chicks are writing THEM, not the other way around. How many chicks write you professing their love for you based on your income or your jawline? Not many, if any.

Money and looks are cool. But if I went out and killed a man and then were arrested, I could get twice the p*ssy. But I couldn't even get it because I'm behind bars. Isn't that f*cked up?

 

[The Duke]

Money and Looks matters to different women to varying degrees. There is no one or two magic bullets guys.
One thing they all have in common is they all get turned on by how you make them feel. Learn how to connect and you will go far. If you are looking for that magic bullet, this is it and its one of the hardest to learn.

I've seen my 60yo dad make many 25yo hotties tingle when he engages them in casual impromptu conversation. He has the skill to connect with people.

 

[cola]

I'm pretty good looking and have a good amount of money at 27. I don't think looks and money equate to diddly sh*t when it comes to banging girls. Maybe the looks to a degree have made things easier, but I got no special attention back when I was a poor college student and I don't get any special attention now that I have a 4k TV, a house and a nice vehicle. The ONLY thing that matters to women is how you make them feel in the long run.

Look at these serial killers in prison that get love letters on the daily. They have absolutely nothing except infamy. No cash, most are ugly as sin; they just have the infamy. But that infamy creates a feeling inside of a woman; you are viewed as a unique, once in a lifetime specimen. That's the key. It's all about how you make them feel. And these chicks are writing THEM, not the other way around. How many chicks write you professing their love for you based on your income or your jawline? Not many, if any.

Money and looks are cool. But if I went out and killed a man and then were arrested, I could get twice the p*ssy. But I couldn't even get it because I'm behind bars. Isn't that f*cked up?

You probably arent flashy either. Pull up to the bar in a 2017 luxury car, have it valet parked.. hop out wearing an armani slim fit suit, with the matching shoes and belt, a gold diamond encrusted rolex walk past everyone confidently and just go sit at the bar and order a drink.
I promise you the hottest girls will either approach you or move so close to your vicinity its painfully obvious they want you to say hi.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I could have a billion dollars in my bank account and a yacht. How would a random girl on Tinder or at the bar know this unless I brought them home in the first place?

 

[Slash Dolo]

You probably arent flashy either. Pull up to the bar in a 2017 luxury car, have it valet parked.. hop out wearing an armani slim fit suit, with the matching shoes and belt, a gold diamond encrusted rolex walk past everyone confidently and just go sit at the bar and order a drink.
I promise you the hottest girls will either approach you or move so close to your vicinity its painfully obvious they want you to say hi.

Oh yeah, I'm sure it would. But I don't really have THAT kind of money (not sure if anyone does on these forums) and that isn't my style either. I'm more of a country boy type: jeans, shirt, hat, scruff kinda guy.

Point is, when i was poor driving a beater to where I'm at now making around six figures and driving a 70 grand car; nothing much has changed. I can still get girls, but I still have to work for it, and material possessions are an afterthought. What matters is when we're alone; I can't remember the last time I struck out then because I've been working on my game and frame since my early twenties. The only strike outs are before with getting them into that position to start with, you know?

 

[cola]

Oh yeah, I'm sure it would. But I don't really have THAT kind of money (not sure if anyone does on these forums) and that isn't my style either. I'm more of a country boy type: jeans, shirt, hat, scruff kinda guy.

Point is, when i was poor driving a beater to where I'm at now making around six figures and driving a 70 grand car; nothing much has changed. I can still get girls, but I still have to work for it, and material possessions are an afterthought. What matters is when we're alone; I can't remember the last time I struck out then because I've been working on my game and frame since my early twenties. The only strike outs are before with getting them into that position to start with, you know?

I get what you are saying. But listen to me, according to you you are a jeans, shirt, hat guy. Which is fine. But a female cant look at you and tell your doing well unless she sees your car maybe.
So you havent experienced the benefits because you dont display IOWs. Indicators of wealth

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I get what you are saying. But listen to me, according to you you are a jeans, shirt, hat guy. Which is fine. But a female cant look at you and tell your doing well unless she sees your car maybe.
So you havent experienced the benefits because you dont display IOWs. Indicators of wealth

Don't listen to a guy living in inner city Baltimore for advice relating to finances. I'm just saying though!

 

[Konada]

Ultimately, what women want are both the gina tingles and how much resources a man can provide to her agenda. As they hit the wall, reality hits them that they need more than just gina tingles to survive and there's where they start looking for a provider.

The real problem comes when men fail to become both a lover and a provider. Sadly, 80% of men are either one or another.

Put both together in the same man and you have a man of high SMV.

 

[cola]

Don't listen to a guy living in inner city Baltimore for advice relating to finances. I'm just saying though!

I didnt offer him financial advice.
Are you sure you finished college? Because your reading comprehension skills are sub collegiate..

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Slash Dolo what type of car do you drive? Just curious.

I'll say confidence is the best thing that makes women attracted to you. Of course however when you get more money you have more confidence. Also, when you have more money you normally have more freedom to travel and experience new things which also gives a person more confidence.

Also naturally girls want a provider. The more money you make the more she will think that you can provide for her.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I didnt offer him financial advice.
Are you sure you finished college? Because your reading comprehension skills are sub collegiate..

You are telling this guy to be flashy. Sorry, y'all hood rats with your mega sized Ralph Lauren horse logo looks like ****. That just screams I just spent my whole government check on a Ralph Lauren shirt so I need the let my ghetto know. Orrrrr, I got this at TJmax lolz.

 

[Epicwinguy]

I just hope I can still get with some 18-25 year old ladies when im past 30. I can't imagine going for women older than 32

 

[cola]

You are telling this guy to be flashy. Sorry, y'all hood rats with your mega sized Ralph Lauren horse logo looks like ****. That just screams I just spent my whole government check on a Ralph Lauren shirt so I need the let my ghetto know. Orrrrr, I got this at TJmax lolz.

Bro, wtf are you talking about? I pointed out how being flashier could help your game. I NEVER once told him to be more flashy.

Second of all, I know you are a nerd because ralph lauren is out of style. If you are a label-***** type of fellow and you want to wear a polo its going to be lacoste on the low end, burberry in the middle and louis vuitton if you want to be flashy.

I read a quote the other day that judgements rarely have anything to do with the person being judged but are a reflection of the person judging. With that, I psychoanalyze that you keep refering to me being ghetto because you are a nerdy black guy and when you get around urban/street smart; "ghetto" black guys, you feel inferior. Like a sheep surrounded by a pack of wolves.
Thats weak mindset bro.
No need to defend or deny this statement its obvious in the way you keep bashing my inner city roots.
Sorry I offend you because I didnt come from silver spoons and porcelin plates.

Furthermore, Id greatly appreciate if you stop quoting my posts and injecting them with your bitter venom because unlike you, Im only here to help.
Not to internet fight with some dweeb, because if you saw me in person im confident your tone would be very polite.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I just hope I can still get with some 18-25 year old ladies when im past 30. I can't imagine going for women older than 32

I feel you mate, Im 31 right now and anytime I hear women complain about "older guys" hitting on them while implying they want a guy their age I have thrills in my back.

The change of being struck from a terrorist attacks doesnt scare me at all compared to the fear of being stuck with an old woman, maybe Im too sensitive about it but they more I look at women above 30 the more they remind me of the crypt keeper from the tales of the crypt, skin and muscle tone especially.

Being unable to get young girls and losing hair would simply push me to chose the roid root, who needs sex drive at that point, I pick the lean toned body anyday.

 

[BrainDamage92]

I think what matters is status - how many people know, like, or love you and how socially acceptable. But **** society. THe other option is to be a sweet talker.

Like the videos where a bad flirt hits on some girl and she rejects, but then some "fans" come and are like "omg youre my favourite performer, can I get a pic with you" etc.. And the girl is like "Wowowo wait so youre famous?" One of the guys who took part in the prank was a good flirt tho and it was obvious he stood a chance even without the gimmick.

Women are more easily manipulated through display of status, pimps use the same tactics to turn poor girls into pros. As with the **** carousel we do exactly the same, have some girlfriend, when **** turns sour we have some fun for a while etc...

I think the problem is we live in an age where peeps are allowed to express the lowest part of the human experience without concequence. Which is good, but we are not making use of it. We need to be more conscious, responsible and have more self control. Because the world we live in currently is dictated by evil, while human beings are kind by nature, in fact they are the most compassionate species on Earth.

 

[BeTheChange]

I feel you mate, Im 31 right now and anytime I hear women complain about "older guys" hitting on them while implying they want a guy their age I have thrills in my back.

The change of being struck from a terrorist attacks doesnt scare me at all compared to the fear of being stuck with an old woman, maybe Im too sensitive about it but they more I look at women above 30 the more they remind me of the crypt keeper from the tales of the crypt, skin and muscle tone especially.

Being unable to get young girls and losing hair would simply push me to chose the roid root, who needs sex drive at that point, I pick the lean toned body anyday.

I also have a weird kind of fear about this. I'm 27 (although for some reason my profile says I'm, 26) and just broke up with my 22 year old gf. I'm thinking realistically I wouldn't be ready to have kids with a woman till at least 5 years in, so by then I'd be 32/33 assuming I met this woman in the next year. With that in mind it wouldn't make sense for me to date someone my age and realistically any older than 25. So I really only have one more serious relationship before I hit that "over 30 barrier". I'm hoping it isn't as much of an issue as it is made out to be - don't want to be stuck dating old women or only the young chicks with daddy issues.

My thoughts are that as long as you make an effort to take care of your body and appearance you'll be doing better than most and should be able to compete in the looks department with people ten years your junior quite easily especially given how most men live - I've quit smoking, drink less, eat healthier, drink lots of water, etc and when people try and guess my age they always guess younger so who knows.

Now I believe the main advantage for older men can be categorised into three areas:

• Worldly knowledge, experience and better game
• MONEY - financial freedom gives you SUPREME confidence, being able to dress better, go on holidays, etc and all the other finer things in life that money allows
• Skills in the bedroom - goes without saying

This is why I believe Rollo's SMV chart makes sense provided you actually spent your 20s grafting in some capacity to improve yourself as a man. I am only recently starting to see the benefits of this graph when looking at my success now vs when I was in my early 20s.

I think the main reason why you don't see that many older men (mid 30s and beyond) with young women (early/mid 20s) is because most of the high quality guys are locked down so it distorts the perception. I firmly believe that men's SMV peaks around 35, provided he takes care of business.. Atleast that's what I'm seeing based on my own personal development.

Read this:
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0

 

[BeTheChange]

Not convinced it's that easy. Such showmanship, in my experience, can actually distance women.

It's like a chick showing off her fake double D breasts. Every guy in the club wants to fvuck her but few will likely even approach her. And the other women will HATE and ANTAGONIZE her.

I currently have a lot of what you described: luxury vehicle, Armani suits (yes that's plural) and a nice watch (nor a Rolex but a nice one). And I'm exceptionally fit.

I can tell you this: I would NEVER enter a bar looking so pretenscious, mainly because I know in my mind that I truly don't NEED those things to attract women, but also, such displays of wealth usually lead to CONFLICT. Beta guys will conspire against you. The alpha guys will try to outmuscle you. Women will distance themselves from you.

I never tell them what I do for a living or that I drive a BMW or that I spend the majority of my weekday evenings in the gym. I'm convinced that what TRULY drops panties is a casual dismissal of those things.

Interesting. So how do you find that line between dressing in a way that reflects your station in life without turning people off?