Do I have to kill all witnesses or what?

[mag333]

OK... I have been reading the old messages for a couple weeks because nobody seems to be posting... I hope this is not because all the people "in the know" or locked in their rooms with women they accidently turned into sex maniacs... (no, I wouldn't wish that on anybody! cept maybe...me )

I have been doing the research and working up the courage to do try SS. I have already pulled a little nonsexual, noncommital things like kino, mirroring, and just SPEAKING IN A SLOW and DEEP way from my chest... And for anyone who is just starting, it has had very definate positive effects. So if all the experts have bailed out, let's salvage this awesome resource by sharing our stories, questions, and comments!

My 1st question is this: How does not being able to get the woman alone affect the use of SS? I have a feeling it is a problem, but I made a bad choice of a first target, and now I am determined to TRY to follow through. I can get her alone SOMETIMES, for short periods of time, but she is constantly around friends and relatives.... So, do I HAVE to extract her from these situations to use SS
correctly? Furthermore, are 3rd parties any more likely than the "subject" to realize what is going on, or at least get a weird vibe?

My second question: I am 20 y/o and thus I see women who are 19, 18, and maybe even 17 as potential "targets". Is the age of the subject important? Is a younger woman more likely to be unable to relate to the subtle romantic or sexual inuendo? My current opinion is that woman of these ages would AT LEAST respond to romantic suggestion being that they have at least IMAGINED being in romance.

I appreciate any response!

Thanks in advance

 

[Mack Of All Trades]

Nice to meet you Mag.


1) If a chick is in public, the SLUT factor comes into play. She doesnt want to be labeled a "ho", so she will be less likely to sexually respond to your techniques.

2) If the chick isnt mature enough, than it will be difficult for her to respond to your patterns.


hope I helped out..

 

[Rev]

Yeah, I am curious about that 'onlooker factor' myself. Would the different context that they listen from expose the hidden commands and sexual metaphors? Could it possibly slip through to their unconsious minds? That could be disasterous or it could be wonderful!

 

[mag333]

Field Report

Being that this was my first "real" attempt at SS, I have some positive and interesting results to report. However, my recent return to college has thrown some new variables, namely distance and time, into the equation.

First, as I stated before, I found it hard to get this chick alone so I ran the patterns while we were driving somewhere. Being that this was my only near-term oppurtunity to try SS on her alone this was my best option but I realize now that it is a big no no... First of all, your concentration has to be SOMEWHAT on driving Second, it is more difficult to gauge her reaction, even more so if it is dark. The two positive effects of a driving SS is that it opens up some new avenues for casual Kino and that being that you need to concentrate on driving, I would imagine that the subject would be less likely to think that you were pulling any mindf*cking.

Pulling out my notes here... She responded to questions regarding feelings about people mostly with expiriences she had had with friends... Which was likely due to my hesitation to force the questioning towards a sexual tonage. Because this is an attemped "friend conversion" I tried to construct a "You find someone likes you and suddenly you REALLY like them" pattern, using myself and a girl who I found out liked me as an example...

I tried to walk the tedious line of her thinking that maybe I did like her but that was NOT the reason I was saying this... Also, if she is f*cked up enough, and she might be, this could cause her to try telling ME she likes me in order to boost my IL (not that it needs it ) I think I pulled the balance off successfully in that she did not seem weirded out. She actually asked if I was talking about with friends or members of the oppisite sex... To which I replied, "I meant the latter but I guess it could be the former".

I also ran a "fear of missing an oppurtunity" or "losing something you love" pattern since I was leaving soon. Oh, and I don't know if anyone has tried this before.... But I ran a pattern about how odors can make you become emotional and long for someone who is far away... I made sure I was wearing HEAVY cologne and I had the bottle with me... Now, after enough time and conversation had passed I thought I would either spray my car with the cologne and "accidently" get some on her, or "jokingly" spray her coat with some (coats don't get washed as often). However, for SOME reason, she found the bottle and sprayed it all over the car AND herself! WOMEN!

In any case, I was happy with my first real SS attempt that evening. Next time I plan on working on order more, and my confidence in moving from one level to the next.

Now that I am back at school, I am debating on whether or not to let her cool down and see if maybe I implanted something with a long time delay. Or, I was thinking about running a negation pattern over the phone... (remember,this is an attempted friend conversion" )Something like, "*****, listen, I had a really good time while I was home, but towards the end of break I thought I might be picking up a little disrespect from you. I didn't want to loose my temper, but I think it is important that I am really clear with you. See, I have rules for all my friends and aquantinces, and I have rules for romantic interests, and even for people I just met. And if someone can't live up to those standards, they don't deserve to be around me. See, *****it isn't neccisary for you to feel an incredible connection with me, you don't need to be upset because I am 400 miles away, you don't need to long for me to be home, when you are sad you don't have to think of all the fun we have had, and you don't have to think how this summer or 5 years from now we could be having even more fun and have an even brighter connection. But what you do need to do is show me respect in the ways I demand it. Your not something special, anyone who wants me to care about them( a little presumption there ) needs to follow my little rules.

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ok, I need to do some fine tuning, because I am not REALLY irked with her about much, so I need to fabricate some believable irritations. But that aside, what do y'all think?

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Darn, I didn't want to make this too long, but I also have another great pattern I think... I think this is a combo neg hit/challange pattern. First, this requires the bench seat in the car, which I know is rare nowadays, but maybe you can think of another incarnation for this general pattern. Anywho, to initiate this pattern, you have to get her mad at you but about something so trivial or stupid that you can justify hitting back (verbally). So, she freaks about something (music, driving skills, whatever) until it becomes personal and you return something like "hey, you better find a little more respect for me d*mn quick or you can walk home!" then, a little more nicely, "look, I don't accept that kind of disrespect... There is only one person who can give me that sh*t and she wouldn't".... HER: "Who's that? (possibly "your mother?" )... In Either case, YOU: (pointing to the bench seat next to you, "its the woman who DESERVES to sit right here. The woman who deserves to have my arm around her. The woman who DESERVES to rest her head on my shoulder"...

Well, y'all can take it from there... But lemme know what you think... I know some of these are only quasi SS, but never the less..

Thanks,
GOOD LUCK!

 

[Rev]

Re: Field Report

Originally posted by mag333
"hey, you better find a little more respect for me d*mn quick or you can walk home!" then, a little more nicely, "look, I don't accept that kind of disrespect... There is only one person who can give me that sh*t and she wouldn't".... HER: "Who's that? (possibly "your mother?" )... In Either case, YOU: (pointing to the bench seat next to you, "its the woman who DESERVES to sit right here. The woman who deserves to have my arm around her. The woman who DESERVES to rest her head on my shoulder"

I don't see the NLP in this pattern.