Do fat girls, ugs and straight up fugly girls know they're unattractive?

[Kailex]

They know that they aren't AS attractive as 9's or 10's, but the problem is that today's society has evolved to a point where every woman believes that they are special in their own way. Years ago, an overweight woman had virtually no chance at scoring any type of male in her local area, unless it was "luck". Now, with the advent of technology after the 90's and the ease by which they can reach out to the rest of the world, they have opened up their chances.

They're also now being told that "Big is beautiful" and "Big girls need love too". The myth of the "BBW" is being spread around like wildfire and it's given them hope.

Now, all they have to do is upload a picture with some angles onto MySpace or Facebook or PoF and they have a better chance at scoring than they did years ago. Now they are being told by dozens and dozens of desperate guys that they look "good" on these dating websites and they are beginning to believe it.

Sadly, I once had a female friend who had a cute face, but 80 pounds too many. She knew what her advantages were: Her face, her cleavage, and personality. She knew her downfalls: Her weight. Instead of trying to lose weight and maximizing her potential, she'd settle for arriving to the club at 12:30 when she knew it'd close at 2:00 AM because her theory was: All the good looking women are taken by 12 AM, so I have a better chance afterward to score me a guy even if he's drunk.

Sad. But so true. And it pertains to what Zarky said as well. She KNOWS what her reality is, so she found a way to sidestep it. Problem is, it worked for her. Always around 1:30 AM, she'd have SOME guy willing to buy her drinks and willing to take her home.
I've seen it happen, guys who are so desperate to score a piece of tail that by last call they are just looking around like a hungry lion trying to score any prey left in the jungle.

Eventual point is: If you had an online dating profile and 20 guys all said they wanted to take you out, wouldn't you begin to feel a little entitled? That self-esteem carries over to the real life and all of a sudden, you realize that they carry themselves as if they were of higher value than you are. You could be a 7, but in this modern age, that 3 could feel like she is an 8.

 

[theunflushables]

Come on, dude. You're trying to use math to say that looks matter? Is this really what it's come to, now? Listen, for you to disregard everything that goes into club game except for facial symmetry and try to say that "Looks" has a perfectly linear correlation with the quality of girl that you'll be taking home is a horrendous and laughably inaccurate account of how seduction works. I can't believe you actually believe this. Maybe you don't. Maybe I misunderstood what you tried to say. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you clarify if you want.

No, thats not what I am saying at all. I am against the whole "looks matter" movement. What I was trying to do is prove to Mad Ghost that women rank higher on the sexual hierarchy than men because of the power of the pvssy. I probably should have used labels like High Value Male and Average Value Male instead of Attractive Male and Average Male..

I should also clarify that in this scenario I did not envision any of these males as social artists because we are a small minority of men in the world.

 

[theunflushables]

Years ago, an overweight woman had virtually no chance at scoring any type of male in her local area, unless it was "luck".

Not necessarily true. My grandpa's sister was this fat, ugly, hell-beast of a woman. My grandpa told me she'd have a different man knocking on their door every night looking to get a piece and she'd fvck each and everyone of them. Something very rare for 1940's midwest.

My grandma's sister was just as fat and ugly (and a stupid b1tch to boot) and she married one hell of a good guy.

I think to assume it was different is part of the myth of the "good old days". People weren't purer than as they are now, it just wasn't socially acceptable to broadcast it to the world.

Eventual point is: If you had an online dating profile and 20 guys all said they wanted to take you out, wouldn't you begin to feel a little entitled? That self-esteem carries over to the real life and all of a sudden, you realize that they carry themselves as if they were of higher value than you are. You could be a 7, but in this modern age, that 3 could feel like she is an 8.

I do agree with this. Unfortunately we'll never be able to stop every man from going after the 3's and as long as they do, she'll have that false sense of self-worth.

 

[itishe]

make money and dont care if a fat sow has an inflated ego imo

 

[women haze]

<i>You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kailex again.</i>


Right on man....Right on..unfortunately I like BBW's to a degree. My view is this....beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what you may find low quality or ug to another man maybe Avergae. Not every male in society is made up to have such a Shallow view.

Yes, A woman should take care of herself, and should want to lose weight in reality for some women they have genetic make up to be thick no matter how much weight they have lost. Look at Queen Latifah just as an example.

The term BBW does not refer to a Fat sloppy woman, the term BBW refers to the woman of today who is beautiful, sexy, and may be slightly hefty due to circumstance...

 

[loveshogun]

Sadly, I once had a female friend who had a cute face, but 80 pounds too many. She knew what her advantages were: Her face, her cleavage, and personality. She knew her downfalls: Her weight. Instead of trying to lose weight and maximizing her potential, she'd settle for arriving to the club at 12:30 when she knew it'd close at 2:00 AM because her theory was: All the good looking women are taken by 12 AM, so I have a better chance afterward to score me a guy even if he's drunk.

Gentlemen (and any ladies out there lurking in the shadows), there you have it: the female version of the AFC.

This is a woman in need of inner game.

This, my friends, is what you look like to hot women, if all you do is practice lines and hunt above your skill level.

Inner game is a must. Don't pretend to be a DJ, BECOME a DJ. All the steps are there, and there's plenty of support and advice along the way.

Don't be like the chicks who take pictures from flattering angles, and call that "game."

 

[CoolBlue]

What I don't get is why you guys insist girls are at a higher level.

So all the AFCs would want to sleep with the ugly girls really? Well of course ugly girls only get AFCs. Seems equal and fair to me.

Unless you are saying that high value males are having twice as much sex as females and can f hot and ugly chicks while AFCs get nothing... I don't see how it is unbalance. Hell even this scenario is fair.

 

[slaog]

If you want a respectable girlfriend then you yourself must be a respectable man. Calling somebody ugly or any name is childish and disrespectful to that person.