do all women cheat?

will all women cheat under the right conditions?

  • yes, 100% of them will if their man isn't satisfying them

    Votes: 35 47.9%
  • No.some will end the relationship first, then pursue other men

    Votes: 38 52.1%

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question guys.

do ALL women have the capacity to cheat?

i was reading a post in the TIPS section where the hypothesis was that all women will cheat if they aren't getting what they want at home.

do you think this is true?
for those who don't want to add to this post, take the poll.

J
 

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Originally posted by joekerr31
all women will cheat if they aren't getting what they want at home. do you think this is true?
Moreover, some will cheat even if they get enough at home but they spotted somebody better.
 

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What are the chances a woman will cheat if she was cheated on in her first marriage that caused a divorce?

What are the chances she will cheat on her second husband after being cheated on by her first?
 

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Looking at the flipside, do all men have the capacity to cheat?

I believe there are people with enough self-respect in this world who would be strong and courageous enough to extricate themselves from a bad relationship before getting caught up in a web of lies.

So to answer your question: No, not all women have the capacity to cheat. Same goes for men.

Take this from an avowed cheater. I did, I'm divorced now. Go figure. I'll tell you one thing: I no longer have the capacity to cheat. Never will do that shyt again.
 

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hehe, every time i post a poll the results are always right down the middle.

which goes to show that as much as some rules apply to all women, there is still definitely a variety of experiences to be had.

J
 

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Originally posted by joekerr31
question guys.

do ALL women have the capacity to cheat?

i was reading a post in the TIPS section where the hypothesis was that all women will cheat if they aren't getting what they want at home.

do you think this is true?
for those who don't want to add to this post, take the poll.

J
I find this a loaded question. Yes all women have the CAPACITY to cheat as do all men.

However I do not think all women SHALL cheat.

*semantics perhaps...
 

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It is very simple. The liklehood of a woman cheating on you is inversely related to her interest level in you. If her level of interest is say 97% then the likelihood of her cheating on you is 3%. If it is 50% then there is a 50% that she will cheat.

Of all of the women I have dated, had relationships with, etc., a few stood out as worshipping me. There interest level was sky high adn there interest level neared 100%. These girls were really in love so I was quite confident that they were not cheaters. The rest I was not so sure about. That is why it is so important to guage a woman's interest level before getting involved in a serious LTR and eventually marriage. That is where Doc Love's and Anti Dump's principles really come into play.
 

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true. but you gotta be careful of some of the women with IL in the 100% range. A lot of times they are attention starved and seeing you in an unrealistic light.

i wouldn't marry a woman based on her IL to be honest with you. I don't care if her IL is 100%, it ain't goign to stay there forever. Life gets in the way. when you come home late from the office and she looks like rosanne and the kids are screaming and someone put a piece of pizza in the toilet... trust me, her IL ain't going to be 100%

personally I think a much better guage for whether you shoudl marry someone is whether you share similar beliefs and values. And whether you have similar views of how you see your lives unfolding together.

I think if you got 80% IL and 80% compatibility you're good to go. If you got 100% IL but 50% compatibility, i think you're taking a chance. Its very easy to have high IL but low compatibility - when your single there are different factors driving your attraction to a person than when you are married.

I mean, if you're at the point of considering marriage with a girl, you've been together for a while and IL isn't an issue.

what is an issue are things like:

does she want 1 kid and you want 5

does she want to travel whereas you want to work in the garage during your vacations

will one of you have to relocate for work during your marriage, and if so, how will that work.

Do you like to save and she likes to spend?

etc.

i think so many poeple get blinded by IL that they ignore finding out the answers to all the issues that slowly tear marriages apart.

Its usually some core lifestyle issue that rips a marriage apart.

J
 

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good post - I disagree on the lifestyle issues as TRUE interest levels can always overcome these.

HOWEVER I sincerely agree on the CORE values and beliefs (VB) of a mature person.

Hard to define thus my reticence for marriage of tow not yet mature individuals. The chance is that you will both mature and have different VB. One matures and one does not meaning different VB.

Neither mature thus go looking elsewhere.

Whereas I see marriage between two MATURE individuals as less risk but obviously there is risk in everything!
 

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Someone answer my question!

What are the chances a woman will cheat if she was cheated on in her first marriage that caused a divorce?

What are the chances she will cheat on her second husband after being cheated on by her first?
 

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Immaculate, I would say that if a woman has been cheated on, and this resulted in a divorce, her chances of cheating with a second husband are low--IF she is a woman of good character.

SOME women, however, may develop a hate-blame complex against men in general, and because of this lack of trust all sorts of nasty issues may crop up.
 

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Re

Cheating is 1 person's reality. It isn't a TOTAL VIEW of reality.

Let's say the world is made up of tons of different realities and perspectives. And with all the variations in people, there's billions of outcomes. There's a "market" of women who will inevitably cheat under CERTAIN circumstances.

And it isn't ALL women, it's a CHARACTER flaw, like that of Shakespeare's "tragic hero" who encompassed a tragic flaw, almost genetic in nature, that brought about his downfall. There are women like this.

It isn't a science though. As much as you can say "if she comes from a bad family, she'll cheat", I know women who come from good families and cheat, too.

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Case in point, my buddy, who was dating a 10 for 6 years, cheated twice in some capacity. Both times with his cousin. They were slated to be married. It's a very messy situation but some keypoints are:

-she's very selfish and manipulative, she's use highly dramatic incidents to create emotion so they can "come together," such as when she cheats, they feel "bad", like a crisis happened and should get together to work it out.

-she has integrity to emotion, and when she 'feels' he's not meeting it, he's in trouble. Most times though, her emotions are manipulative.

-When she cheated, it was to get 'back' at him and inflict the same emotional pain she felt by his lack of giving.

Now I'll say this, she's a straight up bytch. If any guy ever ran into this 5' ecuadorian ho, with fake tits, DSLS lips, and a tan like caramel, RUN! She's only into money; he gave her everything. Women like this are EASY to find.

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Diminish your Risk.

We all know women are emotional, but the only integrity and belief they have IS emotion. Ever gotten into a disagreement with them?

Bad emotion/feeling bad because of you = you ARE WRONG

Good emotion/feeling good because = you ARE RIGHT

It's like red light green light. But don't fall into this trap. To her, it isn't so much a grey world as it is a black and white world. It's cut and dry. But she muddies it up good with her emotions.

JUST because a woman feels bad or has expectations DOES NOT MAKE HER right. If a guy was right everytime he felt bad, and the girl was wrong everytime he felt bad, she'd ALWAYS be wrong. Relationships don't run well on that sort of fuel, but it's how women are, and if guys don't wise up to it, they become pawns and AFC's to their whims.

Her emotions ARE her decision. That's the code she lives by, and if she feels you should have done something a certain way, in alot of cases, it won't matter, because it's how she feels, NOT THINKS.

Doing things that feel good, doesn't always lead to success or good results.

Being drunk feels good, for awhile.
Doing some drugs can feel good, for awhile.
So does eating bad, but the long-range results are far worse in all the above cases.
So does blowing LOADS of dough on pointless and useless things.

See, if you can get her to FEEL good about doing certain things, then you change the linkage and the outcome. I have a buddy who's a master at getting women who didn't previously enjoy giving head, WANT and LOVE to give it. He calls them "*** vampires."

It's done much Pavlov's dogs. Over time, the association with certain feelings is linked to giving head, so she comes to want it more. It's the same thing in her head. If cheating is a means or source of good emotion, whereas you've become a source of bad emotion, she WILL cheat.

I remember going to a bar down the road from my place. The first time I went there with my girl, I got shytty drunk somehow and we had a fight. Now, whenever we drive by, she refuses to ever go back. There's a few other places like that which remind her of bad circumstances so she won't go.

Conversely, she loves certain places for the memories they hold and will instantly change her into someone different, excite her, turn her on, or make her happy. Women are like that. It isn't so much about NLP, as it is understanding that the mind makes associations and meanings on its own. Each person does that. To some guys, PUA is awesome, wonderful, and inspiring. To others, its awful, useless, and just not your personality. It's the association through the belief that leads you there.

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I just don't see women ALL cheating. And I think, in some regard, you can tell. You can tell by what you get back from her. What she gives to you. How the relationship is. But most guys' are asleep and don't pay attention. I put the blame there, to begin with.

It's like saying "you can't be rich." The belief is reinforcing. If you EVER want to be involved with women, you must accept it as part of the RISK involved, but the risk.

There's PAIN AVOIDANCE or RISK ACCEPTANCE (i.e. Going for the GAIN). You guys are speaking of PAIN AVOIDANCE, which means avoiding women altogether. Notice it's there, just like owning a dog. It can shyt on your rug, possibly mawl your kids, chew your leather, but there's MORE joy in my reality to owning one, than the expense related to it and risk of having 1. I've had 5+ dogs with my parents, and owned 1 of my own. Never had a personal problem, though they are messy. BECAUSE THEY ARE DOGS.

Women are women. They are not men, so do not bemoan their lack of MANLY skills. Can you? How can you? Cheating is a fact of opportunity FOR ALL people. The more desirable woman you seek, the MORE risk you will encounter. She will have MORE opportunities to cheat, but it's her CHARACTER that will separate her from all the others. And if you married a 10 of 10's, and did so now, at the age of 25, you have a LIFETIME of risk of ahead of you. What will you do?

Will you avoid women totally?
Go for a fatter woman, someone less desirable?

You bemoan yesterday's ills, but accept them like you would accept strikes in baseball. Or missed completions in football. Or bogies in golf. Or rejections in approaching. It's a NUMBERS game. Not just GETTING numbers, but odds. Ratios. Stats. %. It's not definative, which I think some of you "logics" want, is a sure-fire, 100% return. To have no risk.

Would this be the human experience if we didn't have PAIN and PLEASURE and learned how to get more of 1 and less of the other?



A-Unit
 

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Re: Re: do all women cheat?

Originally posted by al77
Moreover, some will cheat even if they get enough at home but they spotted somebody better.
That's because their guys at home believe that quantity is all that matters. Quality plays a major part but most guys don't get it.
 

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Re: Re: Re: do all women cheat?

Moreover, some will cheat even if they get enough at home but they spotted somebody better
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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
That's because their guys at home believe that quantity is all that matters. Quality plays a major part but most guys don't get it.
Thats true. Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you endorse this situation??!
After 10 years of great marriage and 3 kids if a husband temporarily forgot about quality and didn't bring flowers at teh right time and forgot to kiss her and say "love you" in a timely manner, she is gonna cheat just because his current "quality" is low?

Note, that it is her definition of "quality" not his and not ours.
She always defines what quality is. She may just have a bad day, observe "no quality" on that particular day, see a handsome hunk and decide to cheat.
I don't think it is about quality that he is supposed to deliver. I think it is about her integrity.
 

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haha I think this poll is kind of funny. Everyone has the capacity to cheat. It's if they choose to or not. Most girls tend to end the relationship first and others will just cheat because either their significant other has done something during their relationship relative to cheating or has been treating them badly.

This is a good common question to ask as us girls ask other girls the same question about guys.
 

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Originally posted by laffytaffygirl
Most girls tend to end the relationship first
No, they don't.

Most women are too insecure to be without a man so they "overlap" relationships. And the funny thing is, they always find a loophole to rationalize their poor judgement.

and others will just cheat because either their significant other has done something during their relationship relative to cheating or has been treating them badly.
Badly, huh?

Yea that was my last g/f's excuse. That was her loophole. But instead of ending our relationship she decided to sneak around and "hang out" with someone else at all hours of the night.

The funny thing is, after I dumped her ass, she made a comment to the effect of, "I can't believe we are broken up. Our relationship was almost perfect".

Um, yea, so one minute I'm an ******* who treats you badly, the next minute we have a perfect relationship. Make up your mind already. Typical of a woman justifying her indescretion at the moment then not realizing she completely contradicts herself the next.
 

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Re: Re

Originally posted by A-Unit
Cheating is 1 person's reality. It isn't a TOTAL VIEW of reality.

Let's say the world is made up of tons of different realities and perspectives. And with all the variations in people, there's billions of outcomes. There's a "market" of women who will inevitably cheat under CERTAIN circumstances.

And it isn't ALL women, it's a CHARACTER flaw, like that of Shakespeare's "tragic hero" who encompassed a tragic flaw, almost genetic in nature, that brought about his downfall. There are women like this.

It isn't a science though. As much as you can say "if she comes from a bad family, she'll cheat", I know women who come from good families and cheat, too.

-------------------------

Case in point, my buddy, who was dating a 10 for 6 years, cheated twice in some capacity. Both times with his cousin. They were slated to be married. It's a very messy situation but some keypoints are:

-she's very selfish and manipulative, she's use highly dramatic incidents to create emotion so they can "come together," such as when she cheats, they feel "bad", like a crisis happened and should get together to work it out.

-she has integrity to emotion, and when she 'feels' he's not meeting it, he's in trouble. Most times though, her emotions are manipulative.

-When she cheated, it was to get 'back' at him and inflict the same emotional pain she felt by his lack of giving.

Now I'll say this, she's a straight up bytch. If any guy ever ran into this 5' ecuadorian ho, with fake tits, DSLS lips, and a tan like caramel, RUN! She's only into money; he gave her everything. Women like this are EASY to find.

--------------------------

Diminish your Risk.

We all know women are emotional, but the only integrity and belief they have IS emotion. Ever gotten into a disagreement with them?

Bad emotion/feeling bad because of you = you ARE WRONG

Good emotion/feeling good because = you ARE RIGHT

It's like red light green light. But don't fall into this trap. To her, it isn't so much a grey world as it is a black and white world. It's cut and dry. But she muddies it up good with her emotions.

JUST because a woman feels bad or has expectations DOES NOT MAKE HER right. If a guy was right everytime he felt bad, and the girl was wrong everytime he felt bad, she'd ALWAYS be wrong. Relationships don't run well on that sort of fuel, but it's how women are, and if guys don't wise up to it, they become pawns and AFC's to their whims.

Her emotions ARE her decision. That's the code she lives by, and if she feels you should have done something a certain way, in alot of cases, it won't matter, because it's how she feels, NOT THINKS.

Doing things that feel good, doesn't always lead to success or good results.

Being drunk feels good, for awhile.
Doing some drugs can feel good, for awhile.
So does eating bad, but the long-range results are far worse in all the above cases.
So does blowing LOADS of dough on pointless and useless things.

See, if you can get her to FEEL good about doing certain things, then you change the linkage and the outcome. I have a buddy who's a master at getting women who didn't previously enjoy giving head, WANT and LOVE to give it. He calls them "*** vampires."

It's done much Pavlov's dogs. Over time, the association with certain feelings is linked to giving head, so she comes to want it more. It's the same thing in her head. If cheating is a means or source of good emotion, whereas you've become a source of bad emotion, she WILL cheat.

I remember going to a bar down the road from my place. The first time I went there with my girl, I got shytty drunk somehow and we had a fight. Now, whenever we drive by, she refuses to ever go back. There's a few other places like that which remind her of bad circumstances so she won't go.

Conversely, she loves certain places for the memories they hold and will instantly change her into someone different, excite her, turn her on, or make her happy. Women are like that. It isn't so much about NLP, as it is understanding that the mind makes associations and meanings on its own. Each person does that. To some guys, PUA is awesome, wonderful, and inspiring. To others, its awful, useless, and just not your personality. It's the association through the belief that leads you there.

---------------------

I just don't see women ALL cheating. And I think, in some regard, you can tell. You can tell by what you get back from her. What she gives to you. How the relationship is. But most guys' are asleep and don't pay attention. I put the blame there, to begin with.

It's like saying "you can't be rich." The belief is reinforcing. If you EVER want to be involved with women, you must accept it as part of the RISK involved, but the risk.

There's PAIN AVOIDANCE or RISK ACCEPTANCE (i.e. Going for the GAIN). You guys are speaking of PAIN AVOIDANCE, which means avoiding women altogether. Notice it's there, just like owning a dog. It can shyt on your rug, possibly mawl your kids, chew your leather, but there's MORE joy in my reality to owning one, than the expense related to it and risk of having 1. I've had 5+ dogs with my parents, and owned 1 of my own. Never had a personal problem, though they are messy. BECAUSE THEY ARE DOGS.

Women are women. They are not men, so do not bemoan their lack of MANLY skills. Can you? How can you? Cheating is a fact of opportunity FOR ALL people. The more desirable woman you seek, the MORE risk you will encounter. She will have MORE opportunities to cheat, but it's her CHARACTER that will separate her from all the others. And if you married a 10 of 10's, and did so now, at the age of 25, you have a LIFETIME of risk of ahead of you. What will you do?

Will you avoid women totally?
Go for a fatter woman, someone less desirable?

You bemoan yesterday's ills, but accept them like you would accept strikes in baseball. Or missed completions in football. Or bogies in golf. Or rejections in approaching. It's a NUMBERS game. Not just GETTING numbers, but odds. Ratios. Stats. %. It's not definative, which I think some of you "logics" want, is a sure-fire, 100% return. To have no risk.

Would this be the human experience if we didn't have PAIN and PLEASURE and learned how to get more of 1 and less of the other?



A-Unit
wonderful post as per usual!

thank you!
 

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Most women are too insecure to be without a man so they "overlap" relationships.

A hb8 at school told me "Women are like monkeys. They don't release their grip on one branch until they have ahold of another." I later heard that she cheated on her bf with a professor, btw.
 
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