Do 6 pluses need to have intense interest in you to date you/sleep with you?

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It seems like a woman has to be really, really interested and/or attracted to get anywhere with her.

I only have some experience, and most of that experience is the past year and a half or so, but it seems from other guys I hear from as well (of varying degrees of success) that a woman has to be apesh*t over you to get anywhere with her (meaning beyond getting her number or a date/hang-out.)

Men...we're simple. If a woman is physically attractive to us, and not crazy, we want to sleep with her. With women, it seems like there's this mathematical formula, only with every woman it's different (unless you're some really hunky muscular guy in which case you appeal to the majority of women.)

I'm at least a 6 in looks, and I don't have a bad personality and I'm not shy, and you'd think losing the V-card to a 6/7 would be like winning the lottery. What gives?
 

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because nobody wants to settle. all the 6s and 7s are shooting for 8s and 9s.

if you are a 6, you need game to get another 6.

if you want something easy you gotta roll with the 4s. lol.
 

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The thing is, when you cold approach a woman, if she isn't immediately attracted to you on some level, it doesn't matter what you say to her or what kind of game you have. A guy that's a 6 might as well be a 0. Like you said, women want 8/9s, and they can get them because they have a p***y.
 

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The two posts above are exactly right. I always say that the women you wouldn't touch with a pole are below you on the attractiveness 'scale,' the women you lust after are above you, and the women you don't particularly care about one way or the other are your equals.

Unfortunately, the same holds true for women. That means that if you're a 6 and she's a 6, you're both not going to really be attracted nor repulsed by each other. For you, that's usually enough to be willing to sleep with her. For her, that's not enough. A woman has to be super attracted to you to sleep with you on looks alone, so only if you're 2-3 'points' higher than her will she be easy. And sometimes not even then.

If you want to find your attractiveness rating, think of a chick you know that you aren't really attracted to, nor are you super repulsed by. You wouldn't particularly be excited to sleep with her, but you probably would end up doing it after a couple of drinks. Rate her on a scale from 1-10. That's your rating.
 

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So how do you meet a 6 or 7 that acts like a 6 or 7? I know even then it will take work (not looking for an instant hook-up) in fact it will probably take more work since she doesn't sleep around, but where are the "cute" girls that are modest and just want another cute guy they get along with and aren't after George Clooney?
 

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Up until about a month ago, I wouldn't sleep with anything I didn't consider an 8 or better. Now, all of a sudden, the 6/7s that I had no particular attraction to are looking good. It's almost like I gave up on the idea of getting a hot girl or girl that's my type.
 

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This is the sort of topic someone makes when they are thinking too much.

Haha, seriously though, when you're at the bar should these really be the sort of thoughts that are going through your head?
 

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Hey guy,

The world has turned upside down, there are so many men that 3's and 4's type of women are demanding guys that look like 8 or 9. It just comes down to TIMING. Sometimes, you can catch a girl on rebound, when's she's horny, when she's lonely, when she wants a guy that is your type, etc. Unless of course you have great looks, lot's of cash, and or drugs. Then they will run after you.
 

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My area could have something to do with it. I live in a sausage fest area, and the few bars there are (I'm not the bar type anyway, but let's play devil's advocate) are white trash biker bars.

The few 9/10s there are (literally once in a blue moon) are with HG10s...in Ken and Barbie type of couples. The 6/7s have all sorts of AFCs giving them attention and it boosts their ego.

It's all about supply and demand, and I don't feel I should have to move to another area to lose my virginity.

I'm not ugly (I've been on dates with pretty women), I worked hard to improve my self-esteem and posture and body language and become less shy...it shouldn't be like winning the lottery to have the most natural act (sex) with some borderline-cutie.
 

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DJ Doit - you're thinking too much dude. Don't pigeon hole yourself as a 6 or 7 or whatever. The fact that this shyt is on your mind probably is dampening your social interactions. Loads of guys 6 or 7 bang hotter women.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The V card thing has a hold on me. It seems like it will never go away unless I meet some UG on a dating site or pay for it.

Getting close with an HB8-9 didn't help...just made me feel like a failure that we didn't go all the way (she lost interest, partly because of me, partly because she wasn't over her ex-boyfriend.)

Ever since then (last year) I've been even more obsessed.
 
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