This is my first post, and I must say HOLY MOLY you guys are unbelievable in what you have accomplished in your lives. The change I see here is so inspirational I am amazed. Now I need some help and I was hoping to polish my skills and get help at the same time possibly landing (or dumping) this potential girl. My situation is a little different though, which presents a nice challenge to any DJ who can think from the special angle. Also I wanna say sorry if the post is long but I want to make sure I get my position correct so I can get all the good tips and info from you guys in order to maximize myself and become not a prince but a KING AMONG MEN!!! :rockon:
If you just want to read the MEAT of the post look for the ****
I always had DJ elements, girls told me I had this charm, but I was a MASSIVE AFC as well!!! Now i'm a RAFC
I have read perhaps a dozen articles on this website so far, read many from the DJ BIBLE and I am just eating it up! My case is so unique though and different than many of the guys on here (or at least I see it like that right now)
A fast sum up... I grew up in the jock crowd, mad skills with being funny and all that, just average looking, and also my body never developed well when it comes to muscle or fat sadly (i have skinny body look with wide broad shoulders and I put fat very easily, yet always seem to maintain this average fatness never getting fat enough that someone could notice without seeing it), the girls loved me, flocked to me, but I never could land girls properly.
So at 20 I was peaking with my skills, but still AFC in ways that stopped me from being succesful plus natural LSE from a messed up childhood. I would do it right, the girl would get close, and than she would move away...
So what is new about my case?
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I am a religious Jew who is still a really cool guy and relatable to all girls. I am looking to get married and in the Religious Jewish world you date in the ideal way for being a DJ. You get setup with a girl, either she feels something and u date again, or its called off. There is a huge crisis in the dating scene for religious Jewish ppl these days because all the guys seem to have become AFC and the girls are all LSE or those super b*tches you dump once detected. So this is a problem for solid guys like myself who just want a great girl.
However I recently met a girl, who was like me, cool yet religious so she was relatable and did not push her views on others. She is a B, and seemed to be really into me at first. However I noticed my old pattern was still there. AFC kicked in and suddenly she pulls LJBF than the DJ aspect of me kicked in and said screw this girl man! Suddenly she messages me on MSN the other day saying she made a mistake and really likes me and blah blah blah.. So now I'm stuck in a difficult situation. For you DJ's who are NOT playing this game like me (having morals and Jewish laws that I follow such as not touching a girl until we are married -- yes foreign to you and me until I was 21 but trust me the first time we hold hands will be more than all the sex you've had in the last year mr DJ. In one post I saw this recommended as a way to stimulate girls.. I notice more and more what I read here most of the time is all connected with the laws of my religion and its great
you must realize that we do short dating, short engagement - than marriage. The reason is that the physical aspect only comes in after marriage and since that is the case it makes both sides much more interested in knowing the person and the facts show -- less than 10% divorce rate in the religious jewish community... Anyways back to the B.. So we dated when she came to visit for 5 weeks, and she pretty much was hooked in most ways but she didnt feel 10% she was not swept off her feet. Recently she went back to america and she messaged me as I mentioned before telling me she wants to try to still work it out with me cause she has great feelings.. But now we are 6000 kilometers away! ITS LDR! And another problem is that she needs to do a year of school there before she will come back here or consider moving to the next step. For us its not about dating to date, its about dating for marriage. She knows I am top of the line in one way, but in another way I'm failing.
I think my problem is that I have taken the Jewish outlook which makes one a DJ (believe it or not) and misunderstood it crushing some of my own personality and limiting my social abilities. I notice that I too logical as written in many posts here... I need to open up more and be more emotional. Last nite we had a great steamy conversation but she had to go and I'm not interested in becoming AFC again with her.
This is my issue! I need to either tell this girl to get her priorities straight and we are gonna date/get engaged or else I need to dump her. There is no room for either LDR or AFC (me talking to her when there is no relationship commitment)
So here lies where I need the skills... How do I deal with this situation so I benefit the most from it? I need her to decide she wants me BAD, and I am back and forth with her cause in one way I'm OQ for her, but in another way I turn into this gay ass AFC who I wanna beat down hard! UGH!
On the other hand, maybe I am into her too much? she is a good girl, but perhaps I need to hone in my skills to see if she is worthy of me? since I am THE GREATEST CATCH!!! however I have already 'fallen' for her in the fact that she just seems so great to me personality wise and the chemistry....
Lemme know what you experienced DJ's think and I'm going to be reading and honing in on this hardcore!
Bottom line what I see next week with this girl... either I tell her to get herself settled and call me when she wants to get serious with me in a month or two (thus showing my needlessness) , or I continue talking to her and most likely become AFC (or maybe not I am not sure...)
so what do you guys think??? I think its a tough case... Ask me any questions and dish out any suggestions!
PEACE
If you just want to read the MEAT of the post look for the ****
I always had DJ elements, girls told me I had this charm, but I was a MASSIVE AFC as well!!! Now i'm a RAFC
I have read perhaps a dozen articles on this website so far, read many from the DJ BIBLE and I am just eating it up! My case is so unique though and different than many of the guys on here (or at least I see it like that right now)
A fast sum up... I grew up in the jock crowd, mad skills with being funny and all that, just average looking, and also my body never developed well when it comes to muscle or fat sadly (i have skinny body look with wide broad shoulders and I put fat very easily, yet always seem to maintain this average fatness never getting fat enough that someone could notice without seeing it), the girls loved me, flocked to me, but I never could land girls properly.
So at 20 I was peaking with my skills, but still AFC in ways that stopped me from being succesful plus natural LSE from a messed up childhood. I would do it right, the girl would get close, and than she would move away...
So what is new about my case?
****
I am a religious Jew who is still a really cool guy and relatable to all girls. I am looking to get married and in the Religious Jewish world you date in the ideal way for being a DJ. You get setup with a girl, either she feels something and u date again, or its called off. There is a huge crisis in the dating scene for religious Jewish ppl these days because all the guys seem to have become AFC and the girls are all LSE or those super b*tches you dump once detected. So this is a problem for solid guys like myself who just want a great girl.
However I recently met a girl, who was like me, cool yet religious so she was relatable and did not push her views on others. She is a B, and seemed to be really into me at first. However I noticed my old pattern was still there. AFC kicked in and suddenly she pulls LJBF than the DJ aspect of me kicked in and said screw this girl man! Suddenly she messages me on MSN the other day saying she made a mistake and really likes me and blah blah blah.. So now I'm stuck in a difficult situation. For you DJ's who are NOT playing this game like me (having morals and Jewish laws that I follow such as not touching a girl until we are married -- yes foreign to you and me until I was 21 but trust me the first time we hold hands will be more than all the sex you've had in the last year mr DJ. In one post I saw this recommended as a way to stimulate girls.. I notice more and more what I read here most of the time is all connected with the laws of my religion and its great
you must realize that we do short dating, short engagement - than marriage. The reason is that the physical aspect only comes in after marriage and since that is the case it makes both sides much more interested in knowing the person and the facts show -- less than 10% divorce rate in the religious jewish community... Anyways back to the B.. So we dated when she came to visit for 5 weeks, and she pretty much was hooked in most ways but she didnt feel 10% she was not swept off her feet. Recently she went back to america and she messaged me as I mentioned before telling me she wants to try to still work it out with me cause she has great feelings.. But now we are 6000 kilometers away! ITS LDR! And another problem is that she needs to do a year of school there before she will come back here or consider moving to the next step. For us its not about dating to date, its about dating for marriage. She knows I am top of the line in one way, but in another way I'm failing. I think my problem is that I have taken the Jewish outlook which makes one a DJ (believe it or not) and misunderstood it crushing some of my own personality and limiting my social abilities. I notice that I too logical as written in many posts here... I need to open up more and be more emotional. Last nite we had a great steamy conversation but she had to go and I'm not interested in becoming AFC again with her.
This is my issue! I need to either tell this girl to get her priorities straight and we are gonna date/get engaged or else I need to dump her. There is no room for either LDR or AFC (me talking to her when there is no relationship commitment)
So here lies where I need the skills... How do I deal with this situation so I benefit the most from it? I need her to decide she wants me BAD, and I am back and forth with her cause in one way I'm OQ for her, but in another way I turn into this gay ass AFC who I wanna beat down hard! UGH!
On the other hand, maybe I am into her too much? she is a good girl, but perhaps I need to hone in my skills to see if she is worthy of me? since I am THE GREATEST CATCH!!! however I have already 'fallen' for her in the fact that she just seems so great to me personality wise and the chemistry....
Lemme know what you experienced DJ's think and I'm going to be reading and honing in on this hardcore!
Bottom line what I see next week with this girl... either I tell her to get herself settled and call me when she wants to get serious with me in a month or two (thus showing my needlessness) , or I continue talking to her and most likely become AFC (or maybe not I am not sure...)
so what do you guys think??? I think its a tough case... Ask me any questions and dish out any suggestions!
PEACE
