DJs fail much more than AFC

DJnomore

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DJs fail much much much more than AFCs for two reasons.

The first reason we probably all know they try more often.
Ask 100 women for their ph# in a cold call situation and maybe 20-30% tops will give it to you (thats where I am anyway I don't ask for many numbers) less and less as your quantity goes up. Thats 70+ women who are telling you no.

The second reason is that the DJ can fail in smaller doses. Often you can pick up on a girl and she doesn't like you. She sends cues, you pick up on them. You do your presentation on why you really sexy. She still sends negative cues. You can walk away.
Since you never asked she can't be 100% sure you like her and thus can't tell all her friends that you hit on her and she rejected you.

The ability to ask a woman if she wants to have sex with you in such a way that if she says no she is still comfertable being your friend and hanging out is very benificial to your social life. It allows you to ask all the friends who you like for romantic favors without losing their friendship. This is the key skill for small population pools as the "nexting" strategy doesn't work anywhere near as well when there is no next.

So along with developing the guts to ask lots of women out in a blunt manner, also learn how to ask a woman out in such a manner that if she is interested she will say yes and if not she will say no but you didn't committ in such a manner that she could tell her friends.

For example, kino. Kino is a very easy way to gently increase the level of "sexual/romantic" involvement (hands->arms->shoulders->lower shoulders->full body contact hugs->massage->etc). That is a large part of why it is powerful. Can you imagine a woman running to her friends and saying I had dinner with DJnomore and that bastard touched my hand!!! After you have been touching her hand and she accepted this (misreading these signs is fatal btw) she likewise can't run to her friends and say he brushed against my arm etc.

You want her to know what you a saying with 60% of her mind. Thats enough for her to respond if she wants to but also enough that if she says no you can say no what?

This may sound AFC but it enables you to be far far far more agressive because there is no penalty. Many guys don't understand this tactic because it involves being able to read a womans responses.

But when you can do it well its called being smooth (perhaps because of smoothly transitioning between levels of involvement).
 

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DJs don't fail because they don't give up. Obviously they don't always succeed the first time but they are able to learn from the experience, adjust and move on in a positive direction. Where's the failure?
 

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It's the politically correct attitude.

WHile I do agree most DJs will fail more times, many should also learn from their mistakes.

But the problem is, sometimes, if you ask 100 girls out, some of them, no matter what you do or say, just will not like you. End of story. There is no learning from that, just moving on and smiling.

As for FAILURE. We have become a society that is afraid of that word.

"he didn't fail the test, he just wasn't feeling well."
"she might have come in last place, but she learned how to compete and will practice better for next time."

That's all fine and dandy, but the way I've always lived was,

If i set my goal to make around $100,000 in a year and I only made $90,000 that year, I FAILED. End of story. While I can learn from the time period and from my mistakes, it still is a FAILURE in my book. If I didn't consider it a failure, I sure would not learn from it.

While it might be harsh, that's the way it has to be for me. ALways striving to reach the top.

The problem is, too many people have thrown the word FAILURE, out of their vocabulary.

I mean look at the presidential Democratic primary. Howard Dean and others who finished from 2nd place to 5th place were pumped up and almost celebrating. It's great to keep a positive attitude, but it's a joke to celebrate when you lost.

It's like the guy who celebrates after scoring a touchdown when his team is losing 42-6.

What's the freaking point? Your not learning anything if you think you actually did something good.

Great to learn from experiences and failures, but if you push aside all your FAILURES and pretend that the word doesn't exist, well then, you will never learn from your mistakes or FAILURES.
 

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of course djs fail more, but they also learn more, and succeed more

if you take no risks at all of course you cant fail, but you cant accomplish anything worthwhile either
 

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Originally posted by DJnomore
The first reason we probably all know they try more often.
Ask 100 women for their ph# in a cold call situation and maybe 20-30% tops will give it to you (thats where I am anyway I don't ask for many numbers)
Whoa you suck. wtf, are you just walking up to women at random and asking for their number just out of the blue?

Me-"Hi, my name is axe. May I have your phone number?"

Woman-"Umm" *pulls out pepperspray*
 

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Originally posted by CoOLBanana
yeah, but AFC never really wins
yeah but what came first the chicken or the egg? :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Re: DJs fail much more than AFC

Originally posted by Axe
Whoa you suck. wtf, are you just walking up to women at random and asking for their number just out of the blue?

Me-"Hi, my name is axe. May I have your phone number?"

Woman-"Umm" *pulls out pepperspray*
Cold approach. There are guys who do better than 20-30% but not by enough to make fun of 30% at least not in volume. Perhaps the confusion is that I am not talking about the club where you have a filter that mostly removes women who aren't looking to get laid.
 

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DJs fail much more than AFC

And the correct answer is F A L S E ! ! !

Why?

Because:

1. your not talking about a real d.j. your talking about some of the goobers and internet gumps who post on this forum.

2. if my understanding of a don juan is correct....he is someone who has mastered the art of getting women.

3. when you master the art that means your failure rate drops to almost nothing like any true master of anythings would.



One more point:

I've only seen a few real don juan types since I've been on this board. Don't look at the number of posts on my screen name. I just redid it to get rid of my old time and posts.
 

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Originally posted by PlayerSupreme
-your talking about some of the goobers and internet gumps who post on this forum.

-Don't look at the number of posts on my screen name. I just redid it to get rid of my old time and posts.
:rolleyes: X10000
 
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