DJs ARE YOU GAME ENOUGH TO HELP????

[Zen]

Hi fellas,

This is the greatest site I have ever seen on seduction & dating & I'm now addicted to this site. The best thing about this site is that people are always ready to help others(well, most of them).Right now I have to ask for help from all you senior & more experienced guys.

I live in AHMEDABAD, a city in GUJARAT state in INDIA. I have started the DJ boot camp & am facing some difficulties. I am going to overcome them but could use some advice to lighten things up. So get ready to share your experience...


1) In India Dating & Seduction are not considered as things to be practiced & to be taken as a science or an art. (consider this, I searched this site & found zilch results for members from India, let alone from my city, Ahmedabad - however here I hope I am proved wrong) I am a graduate & so are most of my friends & they all work. Therefore, none of my pals accompany me in the field & I go in the field alone. Also, I don't know why but I feel comparatively comfortable to approach a girl who is alone but not the one who is with one or more of her friends. Could be because I am outnumbered(psychology at work) but also I STRONGLY feel that a girl will not behave naturally i.e. like she is alone, when she is with her friend/s; even if she is interested. It's a big turn-off & very frustrating. I am aware that this also happens elsewhere but in India you seldom find a girl alone & worse, she is with her mom, aunt or other relatives. Even if she is in an all-girl group & they all notice me & are giggling & smiling, I find it very difficult to approach her. Additionally, unlike the west, in India, there is less respect for privacy & people consider it a sin to hit on or approach a girl(they all do much worse than that), so just a small whimper or denial is sufficient to attract lots of attention & possible intervention.


2) The other problem is that my field is too small. Ours is the only dry state in India- which means alcohol is legally prohibited. The state government feels that this being the state Mahatma Gandhi hailed from, alcohol shouldn't be allowed(!!!). Therefore, eventhough mine is the biggest & the most cosmopolitan city in the state, there are no clubs, pubs, discos etc. There are only 3-4 mega-stores & 3-4 multiplexes in the city. Although at these places you have a decent crowd, singles don't come exclusively to mingle but have some specific objectives & are with family or friends. The other places are cafes, restaurants, etc. where I would have to spend money everytime. Also, more often than not I'm alone, making the situation awkward. To compound this, I recently quit my job, though am very certain of getting a better job soon. Right now, as I have to complete the exercises, I go to the mega-stores; although I am acquainted with people there who find it odd that I come every other day - just for browsing - & to a road-side ladies ethnic-wear market in a posh area. The specific problem being that these spots are OK for the initial exercises like making eye-contact & getting HIs but could be difficult for the later exercises like initiating conversations with GIRLS, getting rejections & closing approaches as they are crowded, chaotic public places with no privacy.


3) Also, girls here are more shy & are loath to make eye-contact. Much more difficult is to get a smile when you smile at a girl. We have a good amount of girls who dress sexy & are beautiful or sexy. However, more often than not their attitude & thinking are conservative & orthodox.



I know that this is long, but I want to explain the problems as specifically & accurately as possible so that I get the remedies accordingly detailed & specific. ANYBODY & EVERYBODY is welcome to advice & guide - as long as it is constructive & in good spirit. The more the merrier.

Finally, if there is a member from India(if you are from Ahmedabad - NOTHING LIKE IT) please contact me to share & gain from experiences in similar cultural situations.

DJ's are you game????

 

[RedKnight04]

you seldom find a girl alone

That could be a problem but why does it have to be?

Don't look at that in a DEFEATING way. Who knows maybe you can pull both of there numbers!

When I see a group I always go with the intention of conversation. Simple. I go and talk to them thinking in the back of my head that I am just starting a conversation and thats about it - IGNORING your target.

If that goes well, I'll use Fingerz move and say - "Wow I have really been ignoring your friend here, mind if I take her for a minute?" Then bust on them for having friends that would ditch them like that!

This takes BALLS.

I've done it only twice and it worked out once. I'd rather approach one girl.

There are only 3-4 mega-stores & 3-4 multiplexes in the city.

To that all I have to say is GET OUT OF THERE. Move!

Does that seem unthinkable? Then maybe you can't make the adjustments neccessary.

more often than not their attitude & thinking are conservative & orthodox.

GET OUT OF THERE!

 

[Kineti[C]harm]

Have those cows ready and start throwing them after girls, don't they just die for that inn India ?

 

[Knicknack]

Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
Have those cows ready and start throwing them after girls, don't they just die for that inn India ?

how very 21st century of you... a guy comes to an American forum looking for help and all you can do is act like an ignorant bigot.

Zen: i have heard of plenty of people who moved cities, towns, and even countries to start new lives. is it completely impossible to move to another place where there are bars and pubs and more importantly, easier women?

 

[Ser_i]

haven't read all of it, but I live in holland and the women here are different then in India.. (i'm assuming) I'm mostly refering to culture and "what's considdered normal" ... those thingies so I doubt I could give you advise for on the long run.. only thing that can be said to you is don't be afraid, go for the casual talk, no need to pick up women straight away. that will come eventualy while you even't notice it

 

[Zen]

RedKnight04, Knicknack, Ser_i, thx for your advice. I feel more confident now. Unfortunately, I also came to know that like everyplace else, even here there are guys who have not yet grown out of their primitive & prejudiced behavior and presume that others haven't too.

 

[Sexual]

Are you joking? If you get any reaction from a group of women you should immediantly approach them, because they are showing interest. It's a bit more ballsy to walk up to a group of uninterested women- that's when true DJ skills are needed to raise their interest level. If I approach a few women who are giving me looks, I usually talk to all of them, but focus the last of the convo on the one I like and then ask for her number and then I could see if they all would like to hang out sometime with some friends. Be sure to make eye contact with her.

 

[Spike_the_cowboy]

It is sad when someone like Zen comes along asking good questions and looking for good advice only to have someone make a crude joke out ot it...

Anyways, I wish that I had more time to post a reply. But I have to be quick here, so bear with me.

Just because a woman is with someone, does not mean that she is *with* someone., you know what I mean? You might want to try my "Ice Breaker Note" I think it would be just right for you:

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48076

Sorry I could not say more, but I'm in a bit of a rush!