DJBC - WEEK 4 - All groups

[Al Moh.]

"I would like to have one minute of silence for all those that didn't make it. Djs, we have lost a lot of people. Group red is out completely. Well, I have to admit, I myself barely managed to get here and I wasn't happy with last week. This week is going to decide if I will go on. I wish everyone good luck. If you get through week 4 everything will be much easier, so KEEP GOING! Imagine yourself getting through week 4. You'll have no fear of rejection anymore, you will be at ease approaching HBs, you will have a pool of phone numbers and you'll have two weeks in week 5 to go on dates which will be LOTS OF FUN!!! Come on guys! And after I motivated everyone please get someone to motivate me "

Al Moh.
JackRyanJuan
Young Anikan
PHAT Rabbit: schwanndiggs
Heart Break Kid: Dorian Khan
Apostle IX: jjthemwking
rushing dude 123: rushingdude123@hotmail.co.uk (msn)
Miguel: Miguelgiveshell

That's what is left, however, I am still waiting for 5 people to do their week 3 reports so maybe there will be a few joining us in week 4. As always, pm me if I forgot you (or a mod).



Now, it's your responsibility to complete every week on time. You have to:
- Do the reading
- Complete the exercises
- Write a Report at the end of the week
You may:
- Listen to the music (recommended to get into the mood )
- Report any time during the week in this thread
- Ask questions in this thread
- Give tips in this thread or a thread of the other BC-Groups
If you learn anything new that you think is valuable to others, you are encouraged to post this inside the Tips-Section.

In your Report at the end of the week please state if you were successful completing the week or not. If yes, I am going to move your name to the next week. If no you can either stop or give yourself more time. However, I am not going to take care of you anymore in terms of moving you name further. You have to organise yourself then but can still use this thread.

Each week starts on thursday morning and ends on wednesday evening. Use your local time.

Thta's about it as general information goes.

The link to the BC one more time:

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djbc.pdf
or word Version:
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djbc.doc

There you will find each weeks reading material, music picks and exercises. I am just going to repeat the exercises in short form in this threads.

Exercises:

Go out, approach HBs and close for their numbers. Your goal is to collect 10 REJECTIONS!


Good luck!!!


Group Gold Points at the beginning of the week: 14

Group Green Points at the beginning of the week: 11

Group Blue Points at the beginning of the week: 19

Group Red Points at the beginning of the week: 8 (Final score)

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Hey Rabbit, good to see you're here too. I think I think it's more to get us used to rejection as in the end it is a numbers game and you must not be scared of rejection. I lost this fear awhile ago so after about five numbers I'm just going to try pickup lines and whatnot. This should actually be the easiest week by far for newbies.

Also you can imply a lot with teasing, innuendo (not too much) or even change the meaning of your words with a smirk. Stay away from names and where she's from and all that boring stuff. Listen and I mean really listen to what she says and react to it, don't be thinking of questions to ask while she's talking -- I find that leads me straight to rapport.

I'm not sure what your game is like but I'm very into a push-pull dynamic. I'll tell her what a great friend she is while I'm kinoing her suggestively, I'll tell her we are going to fast while we're kissing (and continue), I'll tease her then compliment her then tease her more etc. Tell some stories. Then when she's attracted I'll show interest in her and I'll be a little more serious. Get to know her, deep rapport. I'll drop a hint so she offers her number without asking and kiss close. I'll call in about 2-3 days (I never believed in that 6 day rule) and I'll tease her so she's laughing for a minute or two (which also helps refresh her memory on why she gave me her number) and set up a 'casual get-together.' I rarely get flakes this way. However if I omit the part where I show I'm interesting in her too I tend to get more flakes.

 

[rushing dude 123]

I made it through to week 4, i posted my results on the week 3 thread and i got one rejection so far.

At shopping centre, chick walks past me.

RD: hey sorry to bother u
HB: (keeps walking and i walk beside her) yeh?
RD: i know ur busy and i kinda got to go now, but i think u have a very intriguing look about u and i was wondering if u cud giv me ur number.
Hb: (she smiled and looked like it worked, but she walked faster and jus left)
rejected ....awesome lmao

yes yes i know i made mistake and actually asked if she wanted to giv it to me, but i wasn't thinking properly. Anyways guys my weak points at moment that r seriously damaging my game is direct game, night game and transition. During this past week i have gone for loads of approaches and screwed them up, but i got some concrete to build on now has i did put a lot of effort in these areas this week, i failed, but i got some stuff to reflect on. If u guys cud help me any of these areas i would really appreciate it.

 

[In Motion]

I completely failed last week, I know. Firstly beacuse I was ****ing lazy and secondly because I had my orals this week. I would like to continue on though!

 

[rushing dude 123]

did one at work, i will include 3 at work at maximum (don't want to get a habit of only being good in one area), because talking to my customers is my job, but asking them for number is not. A girl kept giving me loads of eye contact has i walked past so i approached her has she walking down lanes and it was a direct approach and i asked for her number and she said "maybe the next time i come, i am coming back on sunday" and left (doubt she will come back and i wouldn't ask her again if she did).

so thats 2/10

I will also write on a set i deeply regretted for not asking out this girl during work. She was a mom and she had her 13 yr old daughter with her and her daughters friend and the mom was acting more of a kid than the girls. She looked at my badge and said hello valentine i was wondering if u cud help me. And she kept touching me a lot and did a order for a drink, then i brought them to her and she asked if i wanted one 2, but i said nah i am good. Every time i walked past the lane she started slapping her ass at me. This went on for a good 2 hours, whilst i negged the crap out of her saying things like "look after ur mom for me" to her daughter. I saw her by herself on phone, but i got scared to approach and left it.....i am such a idiot. Then after this i was packing balls away and she came over with her daughter and said "do u want me to help u carry ur ....BALLS" , "do u need to lighten ur load?" and her daughter is like "mom!!", but i was such a ***** and i just smiled and nodded my head lol, she threw me so many ioi's i can't believe i did nothing. That was probablly my worst regret ever approach wise. I can't let this happen again.

 

[Miguel]

Hey Guys, question.

I Just finished week 3s stuff and started in on week 4. Is their a way I can get back into the bootcamp now that I've caught back up?

I've already started week 4 in case.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

You're hardly a day late Miguel, I'm going to assume it's fine. Nice to see the blue team is still strong. =)

 

[Young Anikan]

So um yea,Am I the only one left of the Green Team?lolz If your out there,say something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Al Moh.]

Lol, Miguel, you're fine but I think you blues must be cheating somehow

And Young Anikan, yes you are the only green left. Red group died out and gold has got two people left. I'll go to the mall now and get rejected, lets see how this is going to play out.

 

[Apostle IX]

Hey guys im comin back last week was rough but I plan to make it up blue team stayin strong on this one

 

[rushing dude 123]

dam this week is going to b tough either way, because a. if ur good, its going to take a hell lot more trys to get those rejections and b. those who r not has good will probably have the approach anxiety proportional to it. If we get through though we will learn a lot and have quite a lot of experience, will make the other weeks a lot easier.

there was 52 in the begining and now theres only 8, but i am pretty sure the people who r still here r the ones that r most serious about this, so if all 8 of us get through this week i am sure we will all finish it.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Sweet, I knew blue wouldn't die. Nice to see you Apostle. Anyway rushing dude, it's not THAT hard as long as you do not have fear of rejection. Since you're going for rejection you should have no approach anxiety. What's the worst that could happen? Getting rejected?

I'm going to treat this week as an experiment. See how many intentional mistakes (and what type) I can get away with and recover from. I'm looking forward to seeing if I can get a date after kiss closing with too much tongue (this week sounnds way too fun.) However I'd reccomend you blues get a couple numbers to make the following weeks easier since many of you already have a few.

 

[Al Moh.]

Bad news from here: The captain is leaving the (hopefully not sinking) ship. I went to the mall saturday and just couldn't get myself to approach anything... This week really sucks, WE was all about soccer (european championship) with friends who wanted to watch it with me and I don't have school right now since we are supposed to study for a test on wednesday, so everyone is studying now and I don't quiet know where to go.
Tomorrow and an tuesday I have to study myself to get ready for the test on wednesday.
I know that I could just go out on wednesday and ask random chicks for their numbers straight away but this wouldn't really help me because I need to practice more good approaches with a convo follow up. So basically I am going to stay in week 4 until I am done with it. I just can't make it in time.

 

[rushing dude 123]

al moh, jus b direct, 10 "hey u look pretty cute, whats ur number" should do it (its a last resort to get through week 4, but i don't intend on using it), it will take 5 minutes lol, just do that and on week 5 u can make it up, by getting another proper 10 rejections for urself, its two weeks, so u will have enough time.


btw 3/10 guys, but going to dig deep tommorow and do some approaches in mall and street.

 

[Al Moh.]

Lol, where I live, it's kinda difficult to find 10 women I would date in two hours during the week^^

Alright, I am making up excuses.

I'll go out on wednesday and try those direct ones. Should at least reduce my AA.

 

[rushing dude 123]

alright, i got 5 rejections today and no numbers and i know why it went that bad today, made nooby mistakes. I was pretty submissive and said stuff like "is it alright if i get ur number". I have to make a habit of being optimistic and dominant because it gets results.

I am learning bits and pieces from direct game and also going in new areas. I have something to work and improve on now though.

8/10

 

[Miguel]

Hey guys, sorry for being AWAL, I’ve been rather sick for the last while… and making sure my sister doesn’t talk on my aim anymore… Seriously which one of you is hitting on her now? (lol, funny guys, funny!) but seriously, good across the board. I’m impressed.

Well guys, I actually never intended to finish up to this week to begin with, so I’m completely fine with my results overall. (I only wanted to get to week 3 on my first time through.) Anyways, here’s my run down on some fun stuff I’ve been trying just for giggles really.

For starters, I set myself a rule of only approaching with the intent of ‘not’ failing, and if it happened, tough ****. (think real life.) as I said, I sick during this week as well, which meant that I’ve only had one day to really do any real game. And I can tell you when you’ve only got 2-3 hours to rush it all out, it’s hilarious.

So me and my friend ‘Insta’ (remember my wingman?) were at the mall doing approaches together, now the thing is, I’m sick, disorientated and generally mixed the hell up. But I’m still keeping a trooper face and doing my approaches. (I think the numb brain helped actually.) But in the limited time I had, I must have done at least 40 approaches…

But here’s a run down of the most interesting ones…

Interesting Approach #1
Well, I spot this set of girls with this one HB 8ish and a guy. I’m kinda hurting (I got shot down, bad by a hired gun.) so I pass and do a quick cold read, I decide that the target is close with the girls rather then the boy. So I turn and ask to the set “Who lies more, guys or girls”? Confident, yet slightly off.

Them: …? Huh?
Me: I know it’s a little weird, but me and my friend are actually having a little discussion about it and I’ve run our of ammo. Give me some advice here.
Them: Well blah, blah, blah…
The target: …Girls…
Me: Oh, that’s cool, but why do you say that?
Target: Well it’s because girls need to be nice more then guys, we need to hide how we feel more. (At this point she’s being curt mind you, she’s staring at her cell phone, ignoring me and the ***** shield in full effect!)
Me: Oh, I get it, so it’s your way to filter people? (Smiling at this time) Like boyfriends or guys asking unusual questions at the mall?
Target: (At this point she looks at me dumbfounded like I had just called her on her ****. She starts to smile weekly at me. I turn back to the group and continue on.)

Cool set, figured out from this and a couple other that the best way to beat the ***** shield is once it’s tripped… nuke it, HARD. You see, in the past once I’ve set it off, I’ve tried to pansy step it with light convo and act rather cool… but that doesn’t work, the only way you can get past this is by saying indirectly; “hey, you know I’ve met hundreds of other women in my life and you’re little defense doesn’t scare me, so lets be cool and skip the crap”. It’s really cool to watch as most girls can’t believe that you have enough confidence to not worry about saving face.

You might as well get your balls classified as planets when you do this.


Approach #2
Alright, so in all the rest of the day was fun. I think did a relatively good job because of my sickness I had few inhibitions. Now the other really interesting set I had was as follows; my wing man had to f-off occasionally to help his buddy he had brought along to introduce to the game. So I was left to solo a whole hell load of sets including this one where I spotted this HB 7ish alone. I didn’t realize because I was literally running from set to set that I had approached her 3 times with the SAME opener.

She called me on it both times, I acted cool and was like “hey, you were so different I had to check if your opinion had change so soon!” It was perhaps the funniest thing in the world cause when I realized it; I remembered that the first time I approached her it was awkward. But each time I did it she was more comfortable and found me funny. I got her number and exited… then burned it so I could forget it and never think about it again.

Rejection#1
We’ll I’ve managed to bring up a couple of these, but I don’t want to discuss them. Cause they were like cold fish slaps to the face. But by far the funniest was this one HB 6.5 in a bakery that I saw. I approached and asked her to tell me the best thing to eat their. She glanced at me and started to laugh, then told me to go back to my video games or something. Owch! So I tried to accept the hit and turn it back on her with a C/F comment, I said

Me: hey, you should try it sometime. But I doubt you’d do very good.
Her: I guess not, I mean how can I keep up with someone like you?
Me: agreed! I – (she cuts me off.)
Her: Well I guess I have to go then! Have fun with your games.

Seriously. Owch.

PS: Al Moh, It’s the blue team coffee; I’ve been spiking it with pure concentrated DJ formula. (And no, not that formula.)

#s: A few, but nothing I’m pursuing. (Also, someone slap me cause out of habit I’m grabbing emails to much.)
Rejections: 3 to 5 depending on how you look at it.

 

[rushing dude 123]

dam phat well done, i have no idea why direct game works so well for u, when i do it, it just goes terribly wrong and miguel u r very confident, just shows where it gets u.

 

[Miguel]

Lol RD is not like I'm confident at all! I'm just a REAL good actor... and I know the whole thing that if your not willing to move forward, nothing happens.

Oh, and PhatRabbit, cool stuff man... but why not just make it pure habbit to ALWAYS grab the number at the end of a set? I mean, no matter how it goes? (Just shooting around the idea, and you're by far the best one of us to try it.)

 

[Al Moh.]

Like I said, I wasn't able to do this. I'll stay in week 4 until I'm done, but I'll go ahead and arrange dates each time I get numbers.