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Dj skills like prostitution?

twiiist_CH

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become maybe u didn't understand.

u have a large ego man, i don't know u, but i wouldn't like to.

if i'm wrong..too bad, i'm not always right. i'm here to learn, and to express my opinion on a certain subjet to gain some truth and not some ego.

i'm gotto work. and if u'r happy..don't writting, ur not the only one concerned in this topic.

mwaaaa boy
 

I'm Joe Dirt

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Alright children, lets settle down.

The fact is that not everyone was cut out for the "DJ" life.

That's right, its not a matter of just learning stuff. For some of us, we have the natural tendency to be around people. We are extroverted sensation seekers. We just don't know what we're doing so we get discouraged and aren't being ourselves when we are quiet, shy, etc. (thats why we feel like we're doing something wrong, because we ARENT being ourselves), so when we learn DJ skills they fit into our personality profiles perfectly and help us get our lives the way they should be.

That's why we feel right at home being DJs or applying DJ skills. Because we ARE already outgoing we just don't know how to use that to our advantage, but now we do, so we do it.

Other people here are introverted people who usually keep to themselves. They are the ones who have to put an act on to pull of DJ tricks. That's why they don't feel natural about it.

If you feel like you are pulling a trick on someone and not being yourself, this is probably the main cause. If you were happy spending most of your life at the computer or TV or at the movies with a couple of close friends and had no inclination to just go around a mall and talk to girls or go clubbing or dancing (whose sole purpose is to hook up, if you ask me), then you maybe just weren't meant to be a DJ.

So no wonder that if you walk into a club and start pulling a routine you learned on this website you didn't feel natural about it and you felt like you were doing a magic trick or something where you had to fool everyone else into believing you are someone you're not.

So yes, for some people this stuff comes naturally once we read about it and most importantly it FITS into our lifestyle. For others, this stuff doesn't come naturally and thus it has to be faked in order to work, and this makes it feel like we're doing something tricky/wrong/difficult.

This DJ stuff, in conclusion, isn't for EVERYONE. You have to be an outgoing person to begin with who seeks adventure, if you aren't this stuff will never feel natural to you because its just not who you are.

Saying that everyone can be a DJ and do this is kind of like saying anyone can work in Sales. Yes, you can get a job in sales pretty easily these days, especially retail, but if you have no tendency or talent towards sales than no matter how much training you have you're not going to be very good at it and you aren't going to have a good time.
 

I'm Joe Dirt

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Being a Dj IS NOT a way of life - it is a box deep within that you unlock - it has always been there but the key has to be found out through your own tried and tested experiments and researching (FR's and reading)
As I wrote in my post right above yours, I don't think its that simple. Not everyone was cut out for being a DJ.
 

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Originally posted by twiiist_CH
hah, i'm right, i'v learned all the techniks and develope myself, i'm happy, that's why i'm right

i see in it in a another way, if we all tend to learn from the same place, don't we turn in a certain way "all the same?"
What did Einstein study? Physics? Are all physicians the same? Are they "all the same" like einstein? No they weren't. First of all, Einstein was brilliant in physics (and giving nice quotes) and he excelled at that, so just looking at physics, not everyone is the same as Einstein. But besides his physic-knowledge, there was no one who was like Einstein, allthough they shared the same knowledge, and tried to fulfill the same dream.... (DJ'ing is probably easier then achieiving Einstein's goals though :p)...

Oh well, this is said by a DJ-in-bootcamp :p
 

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i see u turn cooler with time.

good arguments, good ideas for both, i learned what i wanted to know.

i know it's an odd post, but i needed to express my feeling upon it.

thanks a lot.

have a nice evening
 

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Originally posted by I'm Joe Dirt
As I wrote in my post right above yours, I don't think its that simple. Not everyone was cut out for being a DJ.
Damn. I guess if I've been here as long as I have and still haven't made any effort, then I must be one of those guys. I alway suspected that this was the case, but I never admitted it to myself for fear it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 

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Originally posted by I'm Joe Dirt
So yes, for some people this stuff comes naturally once we read about it and most importantly it FITS into our lifestyle. For others, this stuff doesn't come naturally and thus it has to be faked in order to work, and this makes it feel like we're doing something tricky/wrong/difficult.
Ive been introvert pretty much all my life till I was 15/16. I didn't feel good, wasn't interested in girls much and ****...Very insecure about myself and a real AFC...then I talked more to people and started having more friends and as a conclusion, more fun. But I was still lacking social skills. Now I'm 21 and cold approaches (on girls) or talk to unkown girls at bars and stuff are damn hard for me. It feels tricky and difficult, but I know and feel I like to talk to people in general (also girls), being more social and having fun around others. Most of the friends I hang around with these days are sitting too much behind their computer or just playing cards. So that sucks as well. I'm also a magician...what kind of magician are you, if you know all the sleights, but you got no crowd? Or do your sleights, but are afraid to make a nice story around it, because you seem silly....

My point being, and I'm not sure if I'm right (please comment), for an upcoming-DJ that lacks social skills (but not too bad I guess, you have to be able to do DJ bootcamp week 1) it can feel weird, awkward, tricky and difficult (maybe even wrong), while it is actually just a turning point in your social skills. I mean, '21' frikking years being not social is a darn long time, and you can't change without feeling weird about it.
As long as you live, you 'change'...So, the true "you" is when you were just born? Nah, bull sh1t, you keep developing yourself, so you keep changing. By coming to this site, you want to develop stuff like your social skills...so you are just improving, something you always do in your life...when you go to school, when you play basketball, when you try sh1t when you are lying in bed...(learn/improve by failure I guess the latter one)

At least, this is how I look at it.
 

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twiiist_CH -

I can understand what you're trying to say because learning all the DJ techniques and mindsets may get you the women, but that doesn't necesarily mean you are being your real self.

Sometimes I feel that there is not much difference between an AFC and a DJ.

The reason is that an AFC supplicates and loses a woman's attraction. A DJ also supplicates by learning how to be a challenge, using C+F, Push & Pull, etc...to get the girl.

Both are supplicative behavior only that the DJ way is more EFFECTIVE, but nonetheless coming from the same mindset.

It is reasonable to say that most of us cannot easily master CF, being mysterious, challenging etc...because often time they are NOT CONGRUENT to us and we are just forcing ourselves.

As a result, we may feel that we are NOT being our true self because why do we have to be something that we don't feel comfortable with, so hard to learn, etc.. in order to PLEASE the women?

Learn the valuable essentials that are congruent with who you are from this site. Don't force yourself onto any techniques eventhough they may work for others b/c most of us will never be as good as David D. using CF.

I'd advise you to follow the DIRECT mindset bc I believe you will be a lot more congruent with that.
 

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Damn. I guess if I've been here as long as I have and still haven't made any effort, then I must be one of those guys.
Well its not a question of effort, this is aimed at people who went out to the field and just had a lousy time. Yeah, practice makes perfect so even if you are an extroverted person who is out going trying some stuff may feel weird at first, but for some people it just doesn't get much better.

Not every system or way of doing things is for everyone. That goes for anything not just DJing.
 

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If you are using the information you get here to be someone different, then you aren't doing it right.

DJing isn't about putting on someone else's personality and running around, its tailoring your personality, and training it to the max.

Its still about being yourself, its just aiming to be the best yourself that you can be.

A lot of people are happy to sit in mediocrity, when a few, like the readers of this forum, are willing to work and work hard, to improve themselves. Most people have much greater potential than they realise, they are just unwilling to work at tapping that potential.

What we are doing here is no different to going to the gym to develop your body, or studying to develop your mind.

Not everyone is here to become a player and sleep with as many women as possible. Some are here to improve their Long term relationships, some to find a relationship, and some to just improve their relations with people in general.

I believe that being a DJ is not about being a player or womaniser. It's about being the best possible stand up guy you can be. Training yourself to be strong, responsible and a leader. Someone who is there when the **** goes down, and keeps their cool. Someone who is dependable, reliable and just an all round good natured bloke.

The SIDE effects of achieving your potential, is success with women, confidence and stronger friendships.

The effect, is becoming wholly and completely satisfied with yourself and fully comfortable within your own skin.

If you were putting on a DJ mask to seduce your gal, you missed the point of being a DJ entirely.
 
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