DJ Bootcamp: Week 4

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Well done again guys, this is the week that seperates the djs from the afcs and the men from the boys. my moto has always been succeed, fail, never regret because failure is very important from failing we learn and become better. If u did everything and stood 100% chance of succeeding what would be the point. The fact there is risk is why so many afcs fall down and is what seperates us from them and is why we end up having all the chicks to ourselves. So rejection is your friend it is what takes out ur competition....but not u. This is the most hardest week and yet the most easiest, this is also the week u will learn the most. I could get 10 rejections in less than 1 minute if i wanted to.

It is a battle with urself and for every mistake u make u will learn from it. Who ever is left i don't want to see u go out this week, this is where i have seen loads of djs fall, but not this time. I want every dj who survived up to now to get through this week NO EXCEPTIONS. If u can get through this week u will b entering date/ number city and everything will b a lot easier after this trust me. I will b here for week 5 i am telling u that guys, so trust me i won't b going out this week i expect the same from u.

Exercises

All right guys, now the fun really begins!

We've worked on approaching girls, and initiating a conversation with them. Now it's time to put our skills to the test, and start reaping the rewards of our labours.

For this week's lesson, your mission is to go out, approach girls, and close for their phone number. However, instead of our focus being getting a certain number of phone numbers, our goal is to actually get a certain number of rejections. The reason is pretty simple... at this point, we are working on killing off our fear in asking a girl for her number.

So, for this week, we are to go out, approach girls, and go for a phone number close. We are to do this until we have been rejected a total of ten times. Believe me, the first one or two rejections might be a bit tough, but after that, it'll get easier and easier... not to mention more and more fun.

Shortly after Walden reviewed my book he sent me the following suggestion:

”I'd really emphasise the value of working through those 10 rejections. When I did it I was happy with 10 closes. I just did 10 rejections today in fact and it was huge! It does wonders for the consistency of your DJing which is a real challenge. The main reason I've been so inconsistent is I'll buy excuses from myself not to approach, whereas when you're going for rejections, you can't make those excuses.”

Special exercise notes

1. Be in a playful mood when asking for her number. Don't be shy, don't be nervous. I know this sounds easier said than done, and yes, the first couple of times you probably will be shy and nervous. Heck, you'll probably be shivering, sweating, and shivering. Don't let that get to you, after a couple of number closes, you'll feel 1,000% more confident!

2. Try different closes. Experiment with different ways to get the phone numbers. You may want to try to ask her for her phone number on the pretext that the two of you can do whatever you were discussing, you can simply tell her "I have to get going, but give me your phone number, and I'll call you later," etc. The reading material above gets into detail on how to ask for the phone number... have fun with it!

3. Practice overcoming objections. Think about it, attractive women get approached all the time. In order for them to have a life at all, they develop automatic objections that they deliver to guys who ask them out. Don't let those objections get to you. In fact, as long as a girl isn't rude or even worse, apathetic, I'll try to overcome at least a few levels of objections in order to get her to give me her number.

For example, if she tells me "I have a boyfriend," I'll tell her "That's great, but I'm asking for your number, not his" or "Wow, that's wonderful.... when's the wedding?" She'll usually laugh and say that they're not planning on getting married yet. To which I reply, "Well, then it can't be THAT serious. Give me your phone number, and we'll have fun."

The point is, whatever objection she throws at you, see if you can overcome it. Believe me, it's a fantastic high when you get a girl throwing objections at you, and you slip and slide through each one! For me, at least, as long as she's smiling and enjoying the conversation, I love overcoming objections. Some girls do this to test guys, and see how you handle the situation... so come out of it on top!

4. Don't wait until the last day or two to go for your ten rejections... there's just not enough time. Instead, you might want to pace yourself, and make it a goal to go for two rejections per day until you reach your goal of ten.

Well DJs, let's go out and get rejected!!

At the end of, or throughout, the week, keep us posted on how many phone numbers you've acquired in the process of collecting your ten rejections. Also, let's share some good laughs with each other, and tell us about the worst rejection you get. Trust me, there's no better way to get over a rejection than by laughing about it with others who can empathize with your experience.

All right DJs, let's rock!
 

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i am legitimately excited.
 

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Rockyroc
HBK
Davidg100
Blackfrost
Thyme

I will update dj bank tommorow, i am very busy so i got to head off right now. Adios guys will get some field work in tonight hopefully.
 

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Guys I got a really bad rejection,I didn't even get a chance to ask for there #!I was at this hotel chillen lookin at all the girls and I see some sitting at a bar.I walk up to them and say hey whats up,at that moment all there faces are just like this guy is a loser.They had there ***** shields up.Well they did not answer me,so I think of something else to say.I ask how long they are here for.They still did not answer me.One of them just kept laughing,I was like wow these girls are *****es!I ask them why they arent talking and they say because we do not want to talk to you thats why.So I sit there for a moment and tryna think of what to say.I just give up and say something to them and I peace out.Then later they tried to get me kicked out of the hotel!The guard there didn't kick me out she just said not to go to them anymore. I met some other girls though that are really pretty and we hit it off really well.I am worried because this guy I know is really good at getting girls and I do not want him to get them.I mean this guy is a real dj,he is mad good.I do not really like the guy though but he is always with his freind that I like.I do not know what to do.I got in a argument with him because he owes me money.I know this guy doesn't like me,he just never says it,but I can read it in his face.Do you guys have any tips on flirting at all.I would like to get those girls tonight but I do not know how to flirt.I am thinking I should try to get one of them alone somehow and then just talk to her and tell her she is cute and use alot of kino.
I just do not know what to do!!
 

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The DJ bank

This will have the Dj bootcamp in it and also will be your sources of information that i feel will be quite useful along with the bootcamp. I will update this every week with new articles and stuff. This week i am going to add some specific journals to the bank, i feel this would be the most helpful journals to read for this week. They will give u ideas on what to talk about and also some things u can do to make this a bit more fun.

DJ Bootcamp - This will tell you the week's tasks and have a number of articles informing you on how to get through the task as well as building your dj arsenal to get you through this.

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djbc.pdf
or word Version:
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djbc.doc

Optional

This stuff has motivated me greatly and it would of been a lot more harder to go to the next level with out it. I hope you find it as useful has it has been for me.

Weapons of mass seduction - Senor fingers - This is my personal favourite article of this website, the guy will totally change your thinking, his funny has hell and will tell you pretty much every single thing on how to approach a girl.

15 lessons - Pook - One of his greatest pieces and very true and inspirational, u can't help to approach after you read this.

"Keys to the VIP" < search on youtube- reading is not enough my friends, u actually got see these things to believe them. I thought their were so many boundarys in approaches and things i couldn't do. I watched these guys getting girls numbers instantly from screwed up openers to boyfriend being right next to her and i had whole new perspective on approaching and just exactlly what i could do.

Waldens Journal - First person to complete the bootcamp, if you are having problems see how walden overcame the obstacle it may help you.

Approach Journals: i learnt a lot from approach journals and was able to take bits and pieces i liked of a lot of journals to create my own style. The things you see some guys on here do are unbelievable and u will have whole new expectations. They will also help you with what to say and what to do at times, seeing we have all been through the same thing more or less, so u can watch how other people got through them and also learn some of there techniques that they use and see what works for you.

Traps of life: One of the most truest and motivating articles i have read, this is actually in the dj bible, but i didn't want to give you the link and then let you search recklessly for the pages so i found website that has it as well.

Snow Plowmans Journal - This guy has done hell lot of approaches, This is actually the ONLY journal i was not able to completly read because he has done so much and there is a huge amount of information on how to go about your approach with a million different scenarios and it will give you a lot of ideas and show you how easy this can be.

Post your field experimentation ideas here, and I'll do them - Incog - This guy has done a lot of crazy **** and i have tried some of the things he has done and well it has gotten good results. This is just to have fun with so you can add some Ancient amazon chick war storys under ur belt lol. The success rate on this are very good in my opinion for obvious reasons because the approach was not aimed for the chick to try and please her, but rather to please urself. Have FUN.

New! Let yourself fail - Pook - Greatly explained by pook on how it is a win win situation, whilst standing there doing nothing is the only way u can lose. This helped me a bit and i feel it could help you for whats left of week 4.

New! Rejection Collection - 2ndTour - Field experiment of 2nd tour and his rejection list and after u notice that his success increased the more and more he got rejected. Some funny rejections on here that made my laugh my head off when i first read it. But i guess if u think about it ur biggest **** ups r ur best storys
 

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Hm everything has gone quiet all of a sudden, Ok well i hope u guys are doing better than me. The past 5 days i have afc'd and kept saying i will leave it till next time....has u figured next time has still not came. I will not give up on this though. I am working tommorow and thursday and i probs have 4 hours a break and travel distance on each day to get my rejections. It is very bad, but i have to do this. I am so stupid so many oppurtunitys and i am way to worried what this girl is going to respond to it. Does it really matter how she responds, either way i won i gained eperienced the only wrong thing i can say...is nothing at all. I felt bad today has i passed loads of opportunities thinking what an afc i am has i just walked past.

I have got two numbers and 1 rejection this week. So i got these last 2 days to get the other 9. I am going to have early night tonight and go tommorow.

Guys keep pushing it don't give up even where u r now if it is not a good place like me. It is not over till its over, come on give it everything u got and go out all guns blazing.
 

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This week is going to b just about rejections and i know with the time i have my approaches r going to b sloppier than usual, so i won't b suprised if i don't get any new numbers....but then again u never know. Either way it dosn't matter i will make up for my slacking off in the next week if i have to, so no matter what happens the end result will be the same. Anyways lets do this.

Yippi ka ya mother ****er!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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wow i went out for about three hours today to a mall and it was absolutely HORRIBLE. i thought htis week was going to be one of the easiest for me after my showing at the college. but i was making excuse after excuse and at one point i wanted to drop the bootcamp alltogether and pick it back up at the start of my college career. but i would lose soooo much. right now this bootcamp has been the center of my life and i have been loving it.

so... i am NOT giving up just yet. i still have all ten rejections to go. it will probably be the hardest thing i have done in a long time. thursday i have to work so that leaves me with tomorrow alone... i hope i step up.
 

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Ok i am going to try and get up 9 am tommorow and i go work at 2:30. So during that time i can get my last rejections. Today i only got 3 rejections, number and a face book close.

So i got 6 rejections left. Hm this could b hard, but i will find a way to get through it. I just hate that last minute pressure.

Guys don't give up yet even if u got 10. U can still do it get up early and make sure u get to next week because we all know the rewards that lie on the other side.
 

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well... i made a good run but i fell quite a bit short. today i went out for about 5 hours and in total got 4 rejections and 4 number closes (3 of which are promising). it takes a really long time for me because i live in a small town. there is no way i would be able to do it in town, nor would i want to... so i hav to drive about an hour to get to the closest useable location. and even then, i really dont see too many people that are A) my age, B) girls, and C) attractive enough for me to date.

so i definately think that college will provide more opportunities, and if i do fail, it will be because of lack of guts and not lack of opportunities.

am i making an excuse - yes, absolutely. if i had approached every single good looking girl about my age that i saw today and yesterday i would have been probably done... but i was a big ***** about this week for some reason.

so what does this mean? well, unless by some miracle i get 6 rejections tonight or tomorow morning (i work day and night tomorow), i will be officially out of the bootcamp :(

but even though i will be technically out of it from you guys, i am still going to keep doing it (kinda like walden). i am just going to take another week to finish week 4. and i will just be a bit behind you guys.

sooo... i wish the best of luck to all of you. i hope you all get through to the end.
 

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hey man that is what I am doing.I am still going to keep up to date with the bc.I like that rushing dude puts up the extra stuff to read.
 

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Alright i got through, that was a horrible day, i got 6 rejections and 1 number. i got to do something quickly if i got time i will update this bit more. For all those who passed have a rest day, don't worry about bootcamp tommorow just relax and have fun. Next week will be 2 weeks so u have plenty of time. Well that is if any of you guys made it....

ps. thanks cool dude, glad someone reads it lol
 
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Thyme and cool dude, week 5 is going to b 2 weeks to complete, soooo if u can get the rest of week 4's rejections and finish week 5's task i will put u through to the next week, u guys proved u can do it when u came in the camp late and kept up so i am sure u can do it again. I know of rockyroc, david and blackfrost are out for good because i spoke to them personally, but they are pretty much going to still b going out and doing there own thing, so that is good to hear. HBK and azrael not sure about u 2, i would think maybe HBK u could be busy and wasn't able to post yet maybe and azrael ur reports are always late lol.

So for all those who still need to hand them in, just tell me ur done and if u need more time for week 4 just say because u can do it with week 5. Anyways i am going to post the week 5 thread because i thought i will do something tonight, but i will post my horrible field report on week 4 later lol.
 

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Week 4 field report

Alright i am back from night out and i realised something the best opener i seen is just go to random girl "high five"....it never fails, well usually it dosn't but if it doe fails bring out the other hand "double high five" lol.

So i will try to remember my rejections and closes ummm alright here we go. Girl sitting outside on bench

RD: hey there i just have this thing if i see a cute girl i have to speack to her, whats ur name
HB: (i don't remember, but she had manly voice despite her cute barbie appearance)
RD: o ok kool so what brings u out today on this nice bench ...ah i c u like to read (points at book)
HB: yes i just work in the shop over there
RD: ah kool what department
HB: water sports u know sailing scuba diving
RD: wow that is quite interesting didn't take u has that type of girl so i am guessing u travel a lot.
(we talk and she talks about fish a lot.....jeez...i change subject and she brings it back to fish again....ugh i am not digging this chick so i go for close hoping she will say no)
RD: whats ur number
HB: sorry i don't think that is going to happen
(yes!!!!!!!!!) lol

Next one was going into kind of tv/dvd/computer/ game store I see very cute chick working there and she is coming my way so i walk to game section knowing what she is going to do.

HB: hi can i help u there
RD: o no i am kool, i was just looking at these games here, u know i am just curious do u play games?
HB: o yeh i am a ps3 girl, what r u ?
RD: really i like the x box 360 but use to like playstation (i am talking **** lol i don't play games anymore), i bet u got a wii 2
HB: lol how did u know
RD: i don't know i just got that vibe lol, so u r new i am guessing 2 seeing ur so friendly
HB: haha yeh this is my second week and i don't usually like games or computers really i don't know why they hired me, my manager is watching me so i need to pretend i am selling u stuff though (picks up game handing it to me) so what do u do?
(we talk and i like her very much we talk about her going uni, her dancing and singing and stuff, she was asking me a lot about myself)
RD: so does ur manager watch u a lot or something? (seeing her manager keep snooping past)
HB: ummm yeh this guy was talking to me for like 30 minutes last week and i got in trouble
RD: o don't worry i am going now lol
HB:lol
RD: but u know what let me get ur number what is it
HB: i can't remember my number
(i pause and kind slowly edge towards exit see if she pulls me back because if she is interested she will find some way to see me again)
HB: umm wait where do u work ?
RD: o just over there
HB: o ok, do u have facebook
RD: no but my friend does so i will just contact u on hes one
HB: ok my name is...
RD: alright nice talking to u i will c u later.
HB: yeh

I closed 3 girls in work, i won't explain those ones. The most of my rejections were instantanious and on the street done cold which just ended up with me saying whats ur number on the lost set has it echos has they walk away lol.

There was girl walking on other side of road.

RD: hey there u know what i just had to meet u because i know if i didn't come over i would regret it later, so whats ur name?
HB: Vicky
RD: this is where u say what is ur name
HB: what is ur name
RD: RD
( we talk she was quite nice, she had exams all this week so i got to know bit about her and i said after she finishes her exams i will make sure to give her call and i close it)


This week what i realised is i have walked away without closing way to many times. If i could get back to the old Rushing dude "100 approaches in a day" and close all the sets i would get loads of numbers it would b unbelievable. I have learned how to close, but if i could just open and get the interest like i use to i would b amazing. Because in the old days 90-95% of my sets day and night i would b able to somewhat start a conversation and get interest. Now 15-20% of my sets i am only able to do that, which is a dramatic fall.

The answer

Max approaches again back to old times approach every single set
Approach out of state on bus stops, in park, ques. Where ever.
Take advantage of good opportunities put in front of u.

If i can do that and combine my closing with the interest and openinings i use to do i would get a lot of success.
 

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This is crazy because this whole week I felt such anxiety,like I was out of place for some reason.I do not understand because I felt so good before.I like this bc because I force myself to push my limits and comfort zone.I should be outright now but I fed my foot up so i am resting and preparing for a girl feeled day tomorrow!!Can someone give advice why I felt so out've place this past week?I hate anxiety!!
 

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Do you think a successful close happens randomly depending on the girl, or does it actually follows a pattern? For instance, if certain elements are present in the pickup it goes well, else it doesn't.
 

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ok def good to hear that RD, i will go out and get those ten rejections plus the nexts weeks task before the two weeks are up.

ha its kinda funny actually... one of the four chic's (whos numbers i got) actually initiated texting and texted me!! she is def into me, and she is cute/almost hot, but not gunna lie she is kinda annoying.

keep you guys posted
 

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Thyme, azrael and cool dude i got word from all of u, that u still want to continue so u got 2 weeks to complete week 4 and 5.

HBK, well done on making it, looking forward to seeing those gm approaches lol and i will see u at the finish line of the bootcamp i am sure.

Daygamedude with me at moment i am starting to think that it seems like there is some hook and once i feel that hook, now this is not necessairly interest it could b the scene and the context of conversation. This becomes an approach that feels natural and not awkward and the words and come backs are flowing easily out of my mouth. i have no problem with this girl and this becomes some amazing pick up. Then all the others i don't feel that hook and feels slight bit awkward but i can still continue, but it hardly feels very natural to me, this is how i have been feeling my approaches have been going lately and it sucks.

I will give u an example of an hook i did last night. Firstly lets backtrack bitI approached some dj chick who had a very strong handshake and the convo was going kool and got her to laugh a lot, but felt has though i was forcing the conversation and thinking to much. I asked her number no go, she took mine though (whatever lol). I was telling my friends about the chick who shook my hand and how firm it was and not very lady like.

Now i was walking outside and a girl was sitting on bench outside and it was pretty late my friend said hi to her has he walked past, she said "hi" very lowely and turned away like she was not interested, I went in.

RD: o wow ur very friendly to say hi to my friend, u know what let me just shake ur hand, i shook some other girls hand and it was to firm and not very lady like
(extends hand and shakes it)
RD: see there u go that is how a girl is suppose to shake someones hand, whats ur name?
HB: HB
RD: guys did u catch that?
HB: HB lol H...hh.BB
RD: o it is very hard to pronounce
HB: Yeh it is easily forgotten to
RD: I wudn't say that it is weird so i will remember it, just won't b able to say it (she smiles) so what r u doing here anyway some kind of drug deal or something?
HB: lol do i look like a drug dealer, i am waiting for my friend lol
RD: no but that is the point no one would expect a little princess like u to b one lol, don't worry us lot makes sure no one interferes in the deal.
(me and her talk shes quite nice and she starts asking what part of london i am from and asks me about myself)
RD: o so u work in that tall building awesome, where in the building
HB: right at the top
RD: wow right on the top well done i always knew there was a man on top in some chair controlling it all i never thought it was a woman, what do u do there?
HB: waitress
RD: o kool lol i c, so u not interested in the business side on the lower floors?
HB: yes lol i will go to there one day
RD: kool i know this sounds weird, but i believe if u work hard u can work ur way all the way to the bottom.
HB: lol quite a way to put it, so where r u guys going tonight
(tells her about what we r doing she recommends few places)
RD: ok kool so i am going now whats ur number
HB: well i am not sure this isn't really the greatest times and best place to get a strangers number and why
RD: really i think this is very romantic (looks at scenarie round me lying through my teeth lol) o my name is RD btw
(puts hand out to her she shakes)
RD: ok good now we are best friends lol so whats ur number
HB: hmmm fine lol it is 07....(she double checked number and made sure i got the exact numbers so i am sure she is interested)
And i say bye kiss her on cheek, she puts arm behind my neck and makes me kiss the other cheek.

On this one i was quite witty and fast with comebacks and good on disabling obstacles without a thought, if i can get all my sets like this that would be great, but idk why i can't do it yet, but i will definettly find out.
 

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nice set dude... i liked the work your way down comment.
 

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