Distinguishing the Great

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What distinguishes the great from the small, the strong from the weak, the empowered from the hopeless? All men are born with the same characteristics; the day has yet to come where a child comes from the womb with success already behind him. But at the other end of the spectrum, some men are remembered as heroes, celebrities, champions, and so forth; some are almost recognized as having surpassed the bounds of mortality. All the while, there are those whose existences are hardly notable, the peaks of which amount to nothing even comparable to those of the greater men of their times.

Upon seeking the answer to this question, one can be found in the actions of those who have thus far in history attained greatness themselves. The great icons, the political and social leaders, and the heroes in our legends, of our era, and those past, regardless of their cultural differences, all have very basic and definitive characteristics about them.

To be great is to be better than the standard, the average, the status-quo. It might be disheartening to compare two men and find one to be the lesser, but in truth, although all men were created equal, not all men have taken the opportunity to become equal to or better than their peers. One cannot be great by simply being; greatness is a title that is earned, not simply recieved as a gift; granted, each of us has his own natural strengths and weaknesses.

Mankind has, over the years, developed a formula which has been used repeatedly as a tool for success and betterment: investing work and dedication into life generally produces results which place the investor in a place which would be considered better than that which he were in previously. The validity of this forumula can be demonstrated by simple observation of human history. Had a society ever been unhappy with the result of its formation, which would have required a great deal of work to behold, its members' dissatisfaction would have led to their abandonment of the system in an effort to return to their more primitive lifestyles. As can be seen today, few societies are giving up the fight for success. As individuals, were the effort and energy expended in daily life not worth the pain and distress produced by it, we would have all gone extinct by committing suicide long ago. In essence, it can be said that living is generally appreciated more than it is hated. Following this idea, the more energy that is invested into one's daily life, assuming that it is invested logically, the more appreciation that can be expected to follow. Greatness comes then, with more of a benefit than a cost, simply because its achievement requires the commitment of strenuous effort and energy.

But attaining greatness is no simple feat. As was aforementioned, greatness is a quality which requires the ingredients of effort and unfaultering dedication. Greatness is wrought through the sweat, tears, and blood of men who don't stop at comfort, satisfaction, or mediocrity. Striving for greatness comes under the understanding that to be great is to be more than one is, that tomorrow one can be proud to be better than he was.

The problem with attaining the necessary mindset for greatness is that the drive must come from within. While many men spend their lives purely by reacting to the circumstances that chance places them in, the great man is aware that this is simply not enough, but also that awareness is not, in itself, enough either. Greatness is a quality that can only be found through the constant application of the heart and soul. Greatness is a quality that cannot be provoked simply by the existence of a desire for it. The process of achieving greatness must be appreciated and loved, for to be great is to love life, and striving for greatness is to truly live. But herein lies the great paradox of achieving greatness; when one merely exists, and does not live, the process cannot be truly appreciated, so greatness is difficult to inspire. Those who become great must first develop the desire to become great, and must then exercise the discipline to achieve it.

Devote your life to yourself; spend your days to become richer. Sacrifice comfort for fulfillment, and security for freedom. Open your eyes and allow yourself to be exalted and inspired. If you want to live, then live. If you don't, then inspire yourself to choose life. Remember, passivity is no better than nonexistence.
 

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Well said. What you get out of life depends on the effort you put in. Never settle for mediocrity unless you want to live like the many pathetic people around you.
 

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Great!
 

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Originally posted by Nocturnal
But herein lies the great paradox of achieving greatness; when one merely exists, and does not live, the process cannot be truly appreciated, so greatness is difficult to inspire. Those who become great must first develop the desire to become great, and must then exercise the discipline to achieve it.
Thank God somebody gets it!

What this paragraph describes is part and parcel of everything that's holding anybody back from anything.

This paradox is the only real problem in the world, the only real obstacle we face; everything that we call "problems" and "obstacles" is merely a manifestation of this paradox.

Any ideas for how to develop the desire to become great?
Neither getting pissed at people who are better than me nor getting depressed at how much I suck make me want to do anything.
 
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Re: Re: Distinguishing the Great

Originally posted by Visceral
Any ideas for how to develop the desire to become great?
This is where the whole idea of living for yourself comes into play. You cannot define your success by the standards of others, because then you are stuck in the habit of following directions instead of directing yourself. A shift of mindset must be made. People live most of their lives listening to what society and the people they interact with tell them to do. You have to break that habit.

But you must learn to be open minded and ready to explore alternative mindsets and lifestyles before you can develop the right ones. If you haven't internalized the idea of self motivation, you have to take a leap of faith to try it out before you condemn it. That's the problem with so many people, they remain closed-minded and never change even when they would be so much better for it.

When you make being open minded a habit, you won't have to hesitate when you want to internalize a new idea or change your lifestyle, because you know there are always other options and it could be for the better.

I apologize if what I'm saying is a little cloudy... the main reason I write is to figure things out for myself. When I reread my original post I wasn't even sure if I agreed with it... although now I do agree with most of it. Just take what you read with a grain of salt, my posts included.
 

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Well, the only directions that I follow are everyday stuff at school, home, or work ... minimum project requirements, "Help me with something, will you?", etc. No big "path through life" stuff.

You're talking about buying into someone else's grand vision for who I should be and how I should live, and I've never done that.

Unfortunately, this was not the result of a strong will or independent streak, but of some deep psycho-spiritual separation from the world around me ... and from myself as well.

Unlike most people, it never occurs to me to do something for any reasons other than pressing need or my own immediate pleasure.

I never thought of self-motivation as something you can turn on like a switch; I always wanted it to be like that, the way I seem to see it work in other people, but it always seemed beyond my grasp.

If apathy and/or skepticism generated by fear to avoid pain are what you mean by close-minded, then I've got a big problem.

It's so automatic - and logic and self-discipline both so impotent by comparison - that I feel as though I'm stuck.

Then I read about desire - about getting pleasure from pain - and feel as though I need something like that, of equal power to fear, to break out of my rut.
 
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Well Nocturnal you probably scared away a lot of the lazy newbies looking for quick tips to get women into bed, but you are right on the mark!

As for finding the motivation, it's merely a matter of altering your lifestyle habits. Whenever you start anything new it is an effort, but do it regularly and it will become a habit.
 

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I agree completely, but ...

The world seems content to reward our efforts with a lump sum after a long and arduous struggle.

For strong men with vast reserves of faith and self-discipline to draw upon, this is no big deal.

However, for weak men, who lack that inner strength, it's an extremly difficult obstacle.

IMO, your average Joe needs his reward on an installment plan - instant gratification, I agree, but only proportional to the effort.

The first girl you talk to is pretty much guaranteed to reject you, much less leap into your arms and give you the greatest sex of your life.
For the strong man, this is no problem, but for the weak man, he absolutely needs enough pleasure from the experience to want to do it again.

Your first workout is not going to give you an awesome body; that takes years and years of shoveling down food and busting your ass.
For the strong man, this is no problem, but for the weak man, he absolutely needs enough pleasure from the workout to want to do it again.

I'm concerned that for a weak man like me, there is not enough upfront pleasure in new action to compensate for the utter lack of motivation and toughness.
 
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I was gonna post a long reply here, but I PMed you instead, Visceral.
 

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