Displaying Interested vs. Acting Disinterested

[Aspiring Don Juan]

I'm very confused on this topic. I've always read that mystery is key. However, I'm a very subtle flirter, and I feel like some girls don't even know I am interested in them. I have no idea which manner I should act in.

**Displaying Interest**

 

[bigneil]

Doc Love got this one the best IMO: a man should focus on increasing HER interest level, not on projecting HIS interest level!

 

[Aspiring Don Juan]

Ruler: I normally keep conversations light, tease them a lot, and kino them. I agree that i also like a good challenge, I once lost interest in a girl after she completely poured out her feelings toward me. How understand how to use body language and eye contact to build sexual tension, but I don't know what to say.

Bigneil: Very true, but if I ask her out isn't that essentially projecting my own interest?

 

[bigneil]

Easy on the Kino until she touches you.

A successful seducer always makes his romantic interest known. However, there is a fine line between not coming on strong enough and coming on too strong, and it all depends on the girl and the moment. I generally let them double text any time I get any time of hesitation from her.

Example:

Me: "What is your schedule like this week?"
Her: "Not sure yet".
Me: (Delete thread).
Her: (the next day - sending her schedule).
Me: "See you tomorrow, but you promised me a non-selfie".
Her: (photos).

 

[Instinct1978]

This is where the mirroring technique comes in mind for me. Always with a little less enthusiasm than they project.

Her: I had an amazing time last night! Thanks for inviting me! : )
You: No problem... You weren't too bad yourself.

At the end of the day, what comes natural is your ally. If you are having repeated failure, discover the root cause and correct yourself. If you deem yourself successful, for the most part, continue to grown and improve, but don't try reinventing the wheel. Always recognize trends, and ignore random occurrences!


Shane

 

[Nu Vision]

There's conflicting advice out there. I have read that the man should let her know he's interested with kino, etc. This has gotten me burned.

 

[Yewki]

There's conflicting advice out there. I have read that the man should let her know he's interested with kino, etc. This has gotten me burned.

Kino is one of the hardest things to do correctly because it is so easy to do wrong. If you are completely confident and natural with your kino, there is almost no wrong time to do it. On the other hand, if the girl wants you to touch her, but you do it with hesitation or low confidence (awkwardly), chances are it will be a turn off.

 

[bigneil]

If you are completely confident and natural with your kino, there is almost no wrong time to do it.

WRONG.

I'm tired of people who think they can just walk up to any girl and put their hands on her and that it can somehow be ok. THIS IS NEVER OK. WE WISH!! If a girl wants to touch you SHE WILL INITIATE CONTACT. Only then can Kino be useful. People who fight this rule just can't accept the fact that women are not initiating contact with them. According to proper etiquette in several countries including the US, it is even considered rude for a man to extend his hand to a woman during an introduction - THE WOMAN MUST INITIATE CONTACT. A man initiating Kino = assault.

Reference 1:

According to Doc Love, how do you know the date went well? You must get 3 of the following 4: She compliments you, SHE TOUCHES YOU, she kisses you goodnight, she makes future plans. If you touch her first, how will you know she wanted to be touched?

Reference 2:

"A man can shake hands with any man he wishes, but a woman should take the initiative in handshaking when a man and woman are introduced."

https://books.google.com/books?id=J...page&q=woman should extend hand first&f=false

 

[Yewki]

WRONG.

I'm tired of people who think they can just walk up to any girl and put their hands on her and that it can somehow be ok. THIS IS NEVER OK. WE WISH!! If a girl wants to touch you SHE WILL INITIATE CONTACT. Only then can Kino be useful.

You missed the key words "almost no wrong time." Also, I'm confused why you think kino is only acceptable if the girl initiated with you. I take it you're not very good with kino?

 

[Dgwizdal]

WRONG.

I'm tired of people who think they can just walk up to any girl and put their hands on her and that it can somehow be ok. THIS IS NEVER OK. WE WISH!! If a girl wants to touch you SHE WILL INITIATE CONTACT. Only then can Kino be useful. People who fight this rule just can't accept the fact that women are not initiating contact with them. According to proper etiquette in several countries including the US, it is even considered rude for a man to extend his hand to a woman during an introduction - THE WOMAN MUST INITIATE CONTACT. A man initiating Kino = assault.

Reference 1:

According to Doc Love, how do you know the date went well? You must get 3 of the following 4: She compliments you, SHE TOUCHES YOU, she kisses you goodnight, she makes future plans. If you touch her first, how will you know she wanted to be touched?

Reference 2:

"A man can shake hands with any man he wishes, but a woman should take the initiative in handshaking when a man and woman are introduced."

https://books.google.com/books?id=J...page&q=woman should extend hand first&f=false

Usually agree with you but this is terrible advice. If you get the cops called on you for Kino'ing a girl; you must have done a million things wrong prior too and creeped her out to begin with. Kino is part of the game, part of establishing dominance, and a crucial part of establishing confidence. Even an AFC will know not to grab her @ss if she is not feeling you.

Use your own discretion - if things are going good, she's not going to resent you for a light poke to the ribs when making fun of her or grabbing her hand and pulling her to the next location. I honestly don't know wtf you're talking about.

And if you've gotten burned before, you must have missed the OBVIOUS signs to back the fvck off.

 

[bigneil]

I'm confused why you think kino is only acceptable if the girl initiated with you. I take it you're not very good with kino?

I provided the references. I take it you're not very good at reading?

I'm so good at massage that I can touch one spot on a woman's neck with one finger, on the first try, and she'll collapse into my arms as if I were Mr. Spock, but I'm not such a doofus that I go around touching women who haven't touched me first. It's called waiting for buying signs. Do you walk up to women who haven't even made eye contact? Are you really short by chance? When you're 6'5" 225 you learn to be a Gentle Man.

When girls like you they will run over and hug you. They will say "Hi, I'm Marcia!!" and extend their hand within seconds of first seeing you. Maybe you guys aren't that attractive so you feel compelled to convince women that you're good in bed by providing a free demo?

You must have missed the OBVIOUS signs to back the fvck off.

The blatantly obvious sign YOU missed was that SHE DID NOT WANT TO TOUCH YOU - or she would have initiated. A woman cannot hide her feelings.

How could I get burned by initiating touch if I've never done it?

There is no debating the fact that a woman should initiate touch. I did not write this rule, which applies both when you meet and on the first and second date. It's called etiquette. Ignore it at your peril.

EDIT:

Reference 3 "Be handy around the house. Not on a first date. No woman with an IQ over 60 really believes you're 'accidentally'" brushing her boobs with your elbow. The whole 'arm around the shoulder in order to squeeze a breast' trick was old when the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock.... Here's an idea: Let her touch you first."

Reference 4: "It's best to let her touch you first. That way you get a good read on her interest level."

 

[Dgwizdal]

I provided the references. I take it you're not very good at reading?

I'm so good at massage that I can touch one spot on a woman's neck with one finger, on the first try, and she'll collapse into my arms as if I were Mr. Spock, but I'm not such a doofus that I go around touching women who haven't touched me first. It's called waiting for buying signs. Do you walk up to women who haven't even made eye contact? Are you really short by chance? When you're 6'5" 225 you learn to be a Gentle Man.

When girls like you they will run over and hug you. They will say "Hi, I'm Marcia!!" and extend their hand within seconds of first seeing you. Maybe you guys aren't that attractive so you feel compelled to convince women that you're good in bed by providing a free demo?


The blatantly obvious sign YOU missed was that SHE DID NOT WANT TO TOUCH YOU - or she would have initiated. A woman cannot hide her feelings.

How could I get burned by initiating touch if I've never done it?

There is no debating the fact that a woman should initiate touch. I did not write this rule, which applies both when you meet and on the first and second date. It's called etiquette. Ignore it at your peril.

EDIT:

Reference 3 "Be handy around the house. Not on a first date. No woman with an IQ over 60 really believes you're 'accidentally'" brushing her boobs with your elbow. The whole 'arm around the shoulder in order to squeeze a breast' trick was old when the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock.... Here's an idea: Let her touch you first."

Reference 4: "It's best to let her touch you first. That way you get a good read on her interest level."

Thanks for Kino'ing the neg button Neil. No need to get defensive. I'm not sure why you can't see past all these references Doc Love is telling you that you take as the bible. Especially when trying to judge if the date went well or not :crackup:

Jesus man. No one is saying go for an awkward breast rub.

I can tell you're not a natural at Kino'ing. To teach their own. Bottom line is if things are going well, there's nothing wrong with it - whether she touches you FIRST or not. Grab her by the hand and lead her like a man is supposed to.

 

[Yewki]

I can tell you're not a natural at Kino'ing.

But his kino is Mr. Spock level... we're talking next level sh*t here

 

[om1xr]

OP it's really simple. It may sounds confusing but the key is this.

Show interest nonverbally: eye contact, kino, express your sexuality..etc

Don't show interest verbally: ask her out directly with no compliments, don't be clingy with texts, never double text, have other options, while talking eye **** her but when a hot girl walk by or another girl talk to you move your focus from the original girl..etc

 

[Aspiring Don Juan]

OP it's really simple. It may sounds confusing but the key is this.

Show interest nonverbally: eye contact, kino, express your sexuality..etc

Don't show interest verbally: ask her out directly with no compliments, don't be clingy with texts, never double text, have other options, while talking eye **** her but when a hot girl walk by or another girl talk to you move your focus from the original girl..etc

Hey thanks om1xr, I need to work on Kinoing naturally like these guys are all arguing about. Kinda confusing lol. And I'm also good at making sexual jokes, is that expressing sexuality..?

 

[om1xr]

I'm also good at making sexual jokes, is that expressing sexuality..?

Expressing your sexuality is in the:

-Body language, think of how you walk, sit, move after a 1 hour workout. That's how you should walk all the time.

-Embracing your sexuality: you're a sexual being, embrace that sh!t. Don't let that sexual shaming that's spreading in the modern world make you an ashamed man and turn you into a pu$$y.

-Eye contact: eye fùck the hot girls who you are attracted to until they look down or away when they make eye contact with you but don't stare. Know the difference. Catching a girl looking at you and then eye fück her is the key. But when she catches you staring at her she will know that you're investing more than her.

-Recognize the Power talk and learn that sh¡t. Power talk is like saying a sentence but that sentence have two meaning, one is sexual and the other is normal. The girls are masters at power talk. Google it and learn it and it will benefit you in your romance and money and life in general.

-Work out and get that tyler durden body.

-Get an Edgy style, fit clothes but not skinny. Show your forarms when wearing a shirt, girls like that. Boots and dress shoes.

Hope that helps to get the idea.

 

[Aspiring Don Juan]

Expressing your sexuality is in the:

-Body language, think of how you walk, sit, move after a 1 hour workout. That's how you should walk all the time.

-Embracing your sexuality: you're a sexual being, embrace that sh!t. Don't let that sexual shaming that's spreading in the modern world make you an ashamed man and turn you into a pu$$y.

-Eye contact: eye fùck the hot girls who you are attracted to until they look down or away when they make eye contact with you but don't stare. Know the difference. Catching a girl looking at you and then eye fück her is the key. But when she catches you staring at her she will know that you're investing more than her.

-Recognize the Power talk and learn that sh¡t. Power talk is like saying a sentence but that sentence have two meaning, one is sexual and the other is normal. The girls are masters at power talk. Google it and learn it and it will benefit you in your romance and money and life in general.

-Work out and get that tyler durden body.

-Get an Edgy style, fit clothes but not skinny. Show your forarms when wearing a shirt, girls like that. Boots and dress shoes.

Hope that helps to get the idea.

Good stuff here, thanks. Gotta question bout body language. When walking I learned to have good posture, but after workin out, I'm dead af and always slouchin. Don't know what eye fùcking is either, and I'll learn what power talk is.