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Dispelling the "Hot women get approached all the time!" myth...

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You may have heard some dating gurus, seduction experts & pickup artists say... "Hot women get approached ALL the time, so you have to be really different to stand out.. blah blah blah blah blah...."

No! They don't fvcking get approached all the time. All you have to do is go watch. Go watch a hot chick in a Nightclub - where it is suppose to be okay to approach them socially, much less the rest of the time...

They don't even get approached! Guys are scared as hell to approach hot women!

It's the 6s & 7s and sh1t that get approached by drunk, lame dudes who finally muster up the balls to talk to them once they're hammered drunk!

The hottest women don't get approached often!

Oddly, women take it as a compliment when they get approached most often... They don't realize that it's mainly the average guy saying, "You were average enough for me not to be afraid of you."

This is why you see ugly guys with hot chicks. He ain't ugly! He's the best looking guy at her job... He's the only game in town, he's the only thing available to her...

All she wants is to have sex & have a set of arms around her...

Most guys don't get this! :confused:
They think we're slaying fvckin dragons here...

This is why the average guy has only six partners in his entire lifetime! :(

You don't wanna be like that!
 
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I came across this wonderful vault of ultra-enlightening information after clicking the link in fellow forum member Knyteguy's signature (mad cool username by the way dude ;))

His signature leads us to an advertising webpage of Gunwitch's new "Way of Gun" product.

Unlike the case with many other supposed "dating gurus", one can tell right off the bat that Gunwitch actually knows his stuff & is the real deal.

What I have posted above is a transcript of a certain audiofile on that page posted under the title of "Availability"


Who would've known? Sometimes, the stuff people link to in their signatures is pure gold! :D
 

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They don't get approached that often but they do get a lot of attention all the time. Which is why they have a lot of ego and hence the ***** shield. Not so much due to the actual barrage of boring AFC approaches, cuz honestly AFCs don't freaking have that much balls in them.
 

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You can't tell anything about a girl by looking at her.

Just because she's a 9 or 10 now doesn't mean that the 24 y/o HB you're talking to wasn't an acne-faced fatty in high school, carrying all kinds of self-esteem issues around from her earlier days. That same 9 or 10 could have also been prom queen, captain of the cheerleading squad and the total entitlement-mentality b¡tch your mama warned you about.

The only way to find out is go up and say hi.
 

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#41 said:
You can't tell anything about a girl by looking at her.

Just because she's a 9 or 10 now doesn't mean that the 24 y/o HB you're talking to wasn't an acne-faced fatty in high school, carrying all kinds of self-esteem issues around from her earlier days. That same 9 or 10 could have also been prom queen, captain of the cheerleading squad and the total entitlement-mentality b¡tch your mama warned you about.

The only way to find out is go up and say hi.
My mother never actually warned me about anything.... ;)

But to get back to the matter at hand, That's an extremely note-worthy point you brought up #41! :up:

That's a rather revolutionary way to look at these HB9s who we all have been taught to assume that they are total b1tches...

To be perfectly honest with you guys, I really hope to stumble upon one of these HB9s/10s with some some self-esteem issues from back in high school... Now how great of a catch would that be? :crackup:
 

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OTB speaks the truth. We were discussing this the other day (months ago actually) about how some of the hottest girls in our school didn't have dates to the prom. I actually talked to one of the girls and she said she's rarely approached by guys(I already had a date).
 

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Even though I agree with the agenda you're pushing with this post (as a DJ/aspiring DJ you should def be approaching the hottest women available in any environment, not just settled for less good looking girls), I totally disagree with your premise.

In my experience, REALLY hot girls get approached ALL the time, whether on the street, in the bar, at the club, etc...

I was lucky enough to date some gorgeous girls, so I know from first hand experience the amount of sh.it they have to put up with. Creeps, lame canned openers, offering to buy drinks right away... you name it, i ve seen it.

Currently I'm in tokyo, where every girl will tell you guys are 100x more shy than in america and very few guys actually have the balls to approach a girl. Yet, my girl here (she's really hot) gets approached all the time. If i m meeting up with her somewhere, i know there'll be a guy talking/trying to talk to her by the time i get there. If I leave her side for a min, i know that by the time i come back someone will be spitting game at her. And i m not even talking about clubs, where I can't go to the bathroom without 3-4 guys trying to talk to her before I'm back.

Like I said, I ve seen this happen with other really hot girls I was involved with, which really opened my eyes to why girls develop such a strong b.itch shield.

I mean, if you were harassed constantly by ugly or so-so looking girls, wouldn't you just blow them off?
 

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drak_ool said:
Even though I agree with the agenda you're pushing with this post (as a DJ/aspiring DJ you should def be approaching the hottest women available in any environment, not just settled for less good looking girls), I totally disagree with your premise.

In my experience, REALLY hot girls get approached ALL the time, whether on the street, in the bar, at the club, etc...

I was lucky enough to date some gorgeous girls, so I know from first hand experience the amount of sh.it they have to put up with. Creeps, lame canned openers, offering to buy drinks right away... you name it, i ve seen it.

Currently I'm in tokyo, where every girl will tell you guys are 100x more shy than in america and very few guys actually have the balls to approach a girl. Yet, my girl here (she's really hot) gets approached all the time. If i m meeting up with her somewhere, i know there'll be a guy talking/trying to talk to her by the time i get there. If I leave her side for a min, i know that by the time i come back someone will be spitting game at her. And i m not even talking about clubs, where I can't go to the bathroom without 3-4 guys trying to talk to her before I'm back.

Like I said, I ve seen this happen with other really hot girls I was involved with, which really opened my eyes to why girls develop such a strong b.itch shield.

I mean, if you were harassed constantly by ugly or so-so looking girls, wouldn't you just blow them off?

Agree more with this. While at clubs, the hottest chicks might not be approached as much, since they are always with friends, other men, or very guarded, these hotties get approached in one way or another several times a day in their everyday life.

Gas stations, market, gym, work, etc. there will always be some guy making an effort to talk to her, wether he knows what he's doing or not, wether they ask for a number, just stare at her from afar, or just feel like they have to go pay tribute to that woman's beauty. It is happening all of the time.

The hotest girls that are single, is not because they lack options, believe me. All average to hot chicks have plenty of options, and most of us will never know just how it is to be a woman. They can all go through their phone list and find somebody who will give them a ride, buy them dinner, help them move, take them to the airport, dog sit, lend them money, and in a few cases I know, baby sit (yes, for a woman who has a kid that's not his).

Now, since they can be more picky, wether there are real men out there they consider worthy, that's a whole other story. Think about it, would you rather have a less than desirable woman as a girlfriend just to have somebody? Exactly. They can get sex, favors, etc. from the long list of available guys, and stay single, if they so choose to be picky.
 

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If they don't get approached, they still get hot-girl-treatment. They get checked out, know they can get a hot dude, make people shy around them, can get away with doing dumb stuff, and so forth. THAT'S the ego boost.
 

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Hot girls get hit on constantly. Even ugly/fat girls get hit on constantly. I see it every time I go out.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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The super hot foreign girl I hang with gets hit on while I'm with her, which is of course highly annoying. But besides the annoying catcalls and variations of flattery, I've only seen two actual attempts to number close her.

So I think both sides are somewhat right. Their looks do get them a ton of attention, but not necessarily always positive attention that they can take seriously.
 
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drak_ool said:
Even though I agree with the agenda you're pushing with this post (as a DJ/aspiring DJ you should def be approaching the hottest women available in any environment, not just settled for less good looking girls), I totally disagree with your premise.

In my experience, REALLY hot girls get approached ALL the time, whether on the street, in the bar, at the club, etc...

I was lucky enough to date some gorgeous girls, so I know from first hand experience the amount of sh.it they have to put up with. Creeps, lame canned openers, offering to buy drinks right away... you name it, i ve seen it.

Currently I'm in tokyo, where every girl will tell you guys are 100x more shy than in america and very few guys actually have the balls to approach a girl. Yet, my girl here (she's really hot) gets approached all the time. If i m meeting up with her somewhere, i know there'll be a guy talking/trying to talk to her by the time i get there. If I leave her side for a min, i know that by the time i come back someone will be spitting game at her. And i m not even talking about clubs, where I can't go to the bathroom without 3-4 guys trying to talk to her before I'm back.

Like I said, I ve seen this happen with other really hot girls I was involved with, which really opened my eyes to why girls develop such a strong b.itch shield.

I mean, if you were harassed constantly by ugly or so-so looking girls, wouldn't you just blow them off?
I agree. I don't know what the OP is talking about. All the nightclubs I've been in the hot girls are perpetually surrounded by guys, not to mention girls. And these guys are the better looking ones with game. And even if a hot girl pops up in and is new and doesn't know anyone and most guys are too intimidated to approach at first, they will after the alcohol kicks in and besides these women still klnow they're hot and are particular about what guy they are responsive to as can be. I'd like to go where there's hot girls that don't get approached. What did he says NYC? I have my doubts based on what Edger reports.
 

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Does this take into account the fact that most hot girls do not "see" about 99% of the male population on their radar, and only acknowledge the existence of the remaining 1% aka the top dogs?
 

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MisterMcGee said:
If they don't get approached, they still get hot-girl-treatment. They get checked out, know they can get a hot dude, make people shy around them, can get away with doing dumb stuff, and so forth. THAT'S the ego boost.
You are so right, brother! One hottie I have on my team always gets the "hot-girl-treatment", she gets free cookies, ice cream, etc. at food places, without her asking. She gets offered stuff, by the plenty of AFC's, get's told she's a "doll", etc.

prairedog24, you've only seen 2 attempts at number close her because you are there. You can bet she is getting hit on, a lot stronger and forward, when you are not around. When you're around, she gets the stares, the offers, the hot chick treatment, etc., and the reason you even notice it is because it is so obvious. If it wasn't that obvious, most men would miss that too.
 

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drak_ool said:
Even though I agree with the agenda you're pushing with this post (as a DJ/aspiring DJ you should def be approaching the hottest women available in any environment, not just settled for less good looking girls), I totally disagree with your premise.

In my experience, REALLY hot girls get approached ALL the time, whether on the street, in the bar, at the club, etc...

I was lucky enough to date some gorgeous girls, so I know from first hand experience the amount of sh.it they have to put up with. Creeps, lame canned openers, offering to buy drinks right away... you name it, i ve seen it.

Currently I'm in tokyo, where every girl will tell you guys are 100x more shy than in america and very few guys actually have the balls to approach a girl. Yet, my girl here (she's really hot) gets approached all the time. If i m meeting up with her somewhere, i know there'll be a guy talking/trying to talk to her by the time i get there. If I leave her side for a min, i know that by the time i come back someone will be spitting game at her. And i m not even talking about clubs, where I can't go to the bathroom without 3-4 guys trying to talk to her before I'm back.

Like I said, I ve seen this happen with other really hot girls I was involved with, which really opened my eyes to why girls develop such a strong b.itch shield.

I mean, if you were harassed constantly by ugly or so-so looking girls, wouldn't you just blow them off?

I agree fully with this. I do lean back once in a while and just people watch and the hottest women are almost always either getting approached by guys they don't know or with bfs or orbiters. The top shelf hotties do not walk around with their girlfriends being ignored by guys. They get male attention pretty much the entire night of one type or another.

Everyone keeps thinking AFCs don't have the balls to approach so the 9s & 10s are just standing around like wall flowers. That's about as false a premise as you can get. For every 5 AFCs there's 1 douchebag player or natural that will go up and talk to her, and if he's got any game he's got a fair chance of pulling her. Hell, just because they're AFCs they might still offer to buy her a drink and accidentally get laid. It happens all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've had community guys comment about how some AFC went up to a chick, talking about how he's doing everythign wrong, and, oh, what's that? Oh, they're making out and heading for the bathroom? Well, darn, guess you missed out then. Happens all. the. time.

HB 7-10s get hit on pretty much non-stop in clubs and bars from 11pm on. That's life. You've got until about 11:30 to get in set and stay there if you want to pull by 12 or 12:30. If you ever noticed most women show up by 11 and are gone by 1. There's a reason for that! They're getting hit on left, right, and center, choosing which guys they want to bang, and are going home with the guys they've all selected. The only reason the women are still at the club after this time frame is either the club doesn't pick up until later so the time frame is skewed, or because they're with their bf/husband, don't have logistics (friends didn't get a guy), or they're being difficult (ultra picky) and/or don't have game themselves (happens from time to time).
 

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Sorry, have to disagree. I can understand where some girls are so good looking they intimidate guys but to say they don't get approached....not true. If that's the case why is it that all the "hot" girls usaully have a gazillion friends on social networking sites (most of which are male)? And I mean regular girls not celebrities who random people add. So if they are not getting approached, then why is it they know so many people? There is only one answer to that and you know what that answer is.

There could be some truth to this during the day. Most guys won't approach a woman on the street or at the mall because she's there to shop or whatever but if the social setting is a club no doubt she is getting approached. I used to know an attractive women who used to tell me about all the dudes who tried talking to her when she'd go out clubbing. It's why women love those places so much.

Remember this: if it was so easy, there would be no need for sites like this. even afc's approach attractive women, granted it's often not in the most smoothest way, but they do.

Don't feel bad for attractive women. Because of their looks they get treatment many guys won't even experience a hint of in their life times.
 

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If this premise is true then how come I am getting rejected and flaked on so much. I am not doing anything out of the ordinary, just being confident and making conversation followed by a close attempt.

I mean, these hot girls never get approached right??? The only excitement over a guy they have approaching them is if he is really attractive looks wise, has lots of money, high status, fame.

They could really care less about the rest of us.

If it were that easy there would be no need for this site.

Focus on looking better, getting wealthy, and attaining status and the women will wonder whether YOU get approached all the time.
 

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FutureSpartan said:
If this premise is true then how come I am getting rejected and flaked on so much. I am not doing anything out of the ordinary, just being confident and making conversation followed by a close attempt.

I mean, these hot girls never get approached right??? The only excitement over a guy they have approaching them is if he is really attractive looks wise, has lots of money, high status, fame.

They could really care less about the rest of us.

If it were that easy there would be no need for this site.

Focus on looking better, getting wealthy, and attaining status and the women will wonder whether YOU get approached all the time.
That's right. If it was so easy there would be no need for sites like this.

WIth the hot one's it comes down to money, status and looks. Most, not all. I'm sure there are some women out there who are more lenient in those things but generally if the girl sense's she's percieved as "hot stuff" she'll attach a high price to herself. That's why in some cases smooth talking can only go so far as you've found out first hand.
 

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daygameguy said:
They don't get approached that often but they do get a lot of attention all the time. Which is why they have a lot of ego and hence the ***** shield. Not so much due to the actual barrage of boring AFC approaches, cuz honestly AFCs don't freaking have that much balls in them.
Actually, AFCs don't have any balls at all :p LETS GROW SOME!!
 

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Irs88 said:
Actually, AFCs don't have any balls at all :p LETS GROW SOME!!
No, even AFC's have balls. AFC's try, the problem is they just get turned down for not making the best approach, but at least it's something.
 
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