Different types of OLD women

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I'm new here, so let me introduce myself. My name is Frank, I'm living in The Netherlands, 44 years old. Before 2009 I was the most worst
dating-specialist of the country ;-), although average/good looks and good communication levels. After this it changed totally and I became a real DJ. In 2011 I did a 24 hours "marathon", s*x with 3 different good looking dates in 24 hours great time :). I have much experience with offline dating, but even more with OLD. I like to discuss the different types of OLD girls, I see many guys around me who are not satisfied with OLD-website. In many cases it has to that they are searching there for the wrong type of women, or react to them in a not that good way.

Of course, feel free to discuss!

Here we go:

1. The for some weeks divorced woman, who was in a long relationship and she can't be alone

This kind of woman is hungry for a rebound relationship (often you'll hear that after 1 month she already has a new boyfriend, a total sweety) what you don't want to have (only if like to be a tissue), or will flake again and again on you because her ex is still 24/7 in her head and you are not you don't reach any sexual point. From my experience, don't put much energy is this type of woman. If she would be really honest to herself, she's not ready to do anything with another man, at this moment. Yes.....at this moment, you can have success with them later. What I often did, I contacted them, and even went for a short drink somewhere, expecting nothing else, but still flirting and a little touching. Than hold back, totally, weeks/months and let other man date her. Most times these men are not successful because she is doing it dating to fast after the break up. After a period of time, she healed here divorce-issues, she brakes up with him and only than she's open for something serious. I contact here again, she remembers me as a man who was flirting with her and let things escalate much easier.

2. The golden p*ssy girl, can be combined with no. 1 often

She receives 10 messages per hour (that's why her smartphone is connected to the charger always) from men who compliment her on her appearance and her photos and that values here even more growing ego. The want to take here out ASAP and send here messages every day. As a result, she leads, you as a man you follow here and noting else. A female friend of me is like this and we even speak about here OLD-results. Many hungry man contact here whole day, mostly not leading to any result. She's totally not serious when it comes to dating and she's also not looking for a serious relation. But, with some men she accepts invitations for dinners and other expensive invitations. When she goes out with her friends, she told me she could leave here wallet at home, there's automatically a man who buys here drinks. I would never date this kind of girl, they are (for this moment) only looking for walking wallets and attention. It doesn't mean you can not contact them again in period of time, to see in which "stage of life" she is. But, these types of women are often the mean-type, the *****, who only does what she wants, alpha-woman, often this is why a relationship in the past didn't work for them.

3. The I'm here to chat woman

This type of woman uses OLD as a lazy chatfacility. She only wants to chat, flirts with you, but it leads to nothing. Often they tell you that they are not ready for more yet, but maybe later, bull**** of course. I always reacted with these words: I think you are maybe a nice girl, but I'm not looking for online chat friends, so let's go for a drink than and than (propose 2 or 3 times). Any other answer of here else than conforming a date = no answer from you again anymore. NEXT.

4. The ones with a long wish list

Profile texts of this kind of women is 70% filled with things like "he should not be bold, longer than 1m80, muscles" etc. If you like to date
predators which will be the same in a relationship with you, then it will go like "you should have a better job, we should have a more luxury car, you don't buy presents that much anymore for me", go for it. They change boyfriends fast, especially if you don't have a big house but a man she met has.

5. The psych

Don't dare to not answer here message to slow otherwise she'll blame on you. She likes to play games, she wants you to do much for here, but she's doing almost nothing for you. She's in-dependable, she's says, she doesn't need a man. She likes to play hard to get in order to make you weak, therefore she selects the type of men she wants to date, if you appear as a strong man, there's no chance for you. Lucky you! This type likes the Nice Guy, because she can behave like a piece of sh*t without the NG throwing her out of the front door. Often this type of women dates (to) many men at the same time.

6. The woman you can date

The best type of woman to date, it doesn't matter if you met her offline or online, is the one who already had some other dates. Sounds strange to many, because many men want to be here first date, but this is bull****. Let others pass, let them do most of the work, let them warm here up. Many woman are more open to things, especially sexually, if they build some recent experience. Also, let her experience that there are many weirdo's when it comes to dating.....that there are not so many high quality man like you. After some dating-experience, she will see / feel the difference between them and you as a high quality man.
 
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There's a lot of attention whøres out there. They give you signals then shut you right down when you make a move.
Yep, that´s for example the type that posts pictures of themselves on social media every day. If you would like to do something with one or more of them, I would only go for quick s*x and escalate to this very fast. Don´t put to much energy in them, it makes your head crazy and is a waste of time. Don´t buy them presents or take them out for a dinner. It can be that after that dinner, paid by you, they meet another guy, same evening. So keep your wallet closed. I had this situation once.

Always be less nice than the woman, always take less care than she does. A nice guy takes more care than she does, is more nice than her, that´s why things go wrong.
 
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There's a lot of attention whøres out there. They give you signals then shut you right down when you make a move.
this is what put me off women for a long period, too think a woman would rather sit on her sofa, and lead on a load of men to check shes desired....than actually meet up and make some good memories , sickens me

one used to go as far as to show interest in my daughters life, then when i escalated to"Meet" she would go all weird
 

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I wonder if any "window gals" in A-Dam are on Tinder.
 

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part of me feels that if you have to go online, you've already lost the game. sites like match.com are dumpster diving at best. the women on there all are either ugly or have tons of baggage. the one hot girl will have a full inbox, and it will be a waste to contact her because you're just feeding her already big ego.

joining organizations or doing well at work/getting invited to professional networking stuff seems a lot better these days. those women are MUCH less likely to flake because they met you in an environment that was not geared toward dating. when a woman meets you in a normal environment, and you have some sort of credentials that make you valuable to her. you dont' have to prove your SMV because she already knows it. she's more likely to initiate in this type of environment.

Some guys are just willing to go online and fvck any girl no matter how ugly they are. but in my experience, guys who have standards don't meet women online.
 

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part of me feels that if you have to go online, you've already lost the game. sites like match.com are dumpster diving at best. the women on there all are either ugly or have tons of baggage. the one hot girl will have a full inbox, and it will be a waste to contact her because you're just feeding her already big ego.

joining organizations or doing well at work/getting invited to professional networking stuff seems a lot better these days. those women are MUCH less likely to flake because they met you in an environment that was not geared toward dating. when a woman meets you in a normal environment, and you have some sort of credentials that make you valuable to her. you dont' have to prove your SMV because she already knows it. she's more likely to initiate in this type of environment.

Some guys are just willing to go online and fvck any girl no matter how ugly they are. but in my experience, guys who have standards don't meet women online.
Old in general sucks within a 70 mile radius around here BUT match has the best looking women out of all the sites. Granted older than tender and around here more wall women but in general the cleanest looking ones. Not very many under 35 on there thiugh in my region. I also get the best reply rates from match.
 

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The best results I have one niche dating sites, especially the ones for the higher educated, woman there also less flake. BIg ones like the Dutch version of match.com, it´s a gambling numbers game, I had success here 3x, but it was not that easy, it´s like contact 5 - 10 woman (you never contacted before) a day, to get at least some result. Datingsites which are free for women are (my experience) not good at all, 9 out 10 there seem not to be open to anything at all. If they pay, you know that they are absolutely more serious in what they want.
 

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The best results I have one niche dating sites, especially the ones for the higher educated, woman there also less flake. BIg ones like the Dutch version of match.com, it´s a gambling numbers game, I had success here 3x, but it was not that easy, it´s like contact 5 - 10 woman (you never contacted before) a day, to get at least some result. Datingsites which are free for women are (my experience) not good at all, 9 out 10 there seem not to be open to anything at all. If they pay, you know that they are absolutely more serious in what they want.
That's true free dating sites generally suck maybe minus facebook dating. Match and facebook dating I get the best results. POF OKC around here is nasty trash and the very few decent ones on those free sites are getting bombarded by 100s and 100s of men.

You get what you pay for. But POF it's hard to stomach browsing it almost and I have a strong stomach. Some very gross women on there.

Eharmomy looks okay for big cities too. I signed up for the free version that doesn't show their photos but most of them were up near Tampa. Catholic Match has some educated women too but it's VERY sparse.
 
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It´s also often like going with a group of 10 fishermen to the sea although there are only 2 fishes in that sea which you can get. So is the same with many (free) online dating sites/apps. There are less (hot) women than (often needy) men available. So the women lead there, here it already starts going wrong.....and can behave like cr*p, flake, be b*tchy and still have men who want them. It´s like fishing in that see with 10 fishermen and only 2 fishes, it´s the wrong place to be, the wrong place of this sea.
 

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Then why not just pay like 30 bucks a month for match then or something or Tinder Gold to see your matches so you don't have to swipe all day.

What I hate about Match is it doesn't tell you if that user has a free profile or a paid member. So you can message them and they never even see the message. You can pay 5 bucks a month to have the read message feature though that shows you if they read it or not.

Paying for the paid feature for POF is a waste of money. for POF I would just make generic messages to cut and paste. For a free site cluttered with trash I wouldn't waste effort in crafting messages when a good chance they never even see the message.
 
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Agree. 2020s indifference to there bs attention whoring will get you farther then what the masses do.
I dont give a fck should be in everyman's arsenal of wargames these days. This is still a game and who ever gives a fck the most. Loses.
There is a huge difference between Indifference and being a plain ol ****.

One is done in the hopes of getting a reaction the other is done without any expectations.
A number of them are attention *****s and want validation from their friends to show how blown up their inboxes are. They're not serious about dating.

Tell me, if you subtract the validation profiles, fake profiles, etc., how many of those profiles are girls actually wanting to meet men from the site?
 

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I dont know im not a computer. I dont use it because i think its a crutch these days from actually living your life. Its not what it used to be.
I think if smartphones were not wide spread like they're not old would be a lot different. Like it was in 2006.
 

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I just dont what to say to you. Maybe you have a learning disability i dont know. Nor do i care. I will just continue to read your posts in disbelief. 2006 was 14 years ago bro.
That's when old was good is what I'm saying. You also had Yahoo personals and such too.
 

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A number of them are attention *****s and want validation from their friends to show how blown up their inboxes are. They're not serious about dating.

Tell me, if you subtract the validation profiles, fake profiles, etc., how many of those profiles are girls actually wanting to meet men from the site?
True, having good results at OLD is 1. a numbers game (send everyday at least 10 messages to girls you never contacted before to get result, 1:10, 1:15 is normal) 2. have good profile text where you trigger female emotions (so not I'm Jan, 40 years old, my hobbies are......and like to eat.....that's boring and doesn't trigger women)
 

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True, having good results at OLD is 1. a numbers game (send everyday at least 10 messages to girls you never contacted before to get result, 1:10, 1:15 is normal) 2. have good profile text where you trigger female emotions (so not I'm Jan, 40 years old, my hobbies are......and like to eat.....that's boring and doesn't trigger women)
Saw a cute HB 6.5 today. 60 miles away but only wants someone within her city, but LOLs her profile she lists single, never married. But in her photo she's holding a coffee cup up and is wearing a nice wedding ring ROFL.

Actually PUA artist say strong profiles get about 2-5 percent reply rates. Dating site depends too. A garbage free site like POF that is swarmed by everyone it will probably have lower rates since lower number of clean women on there.
 

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Saw a cute HB 6.5 today. 60 miles away but only wants someone within her city, but LOLs her profile she lists single, never married. But in her photo she's holding a coffee cup up and is wearing a nice wedding ring ROFL.

Actually PUA artist say strong profiles get about 2-5 percent reply rates. Dating site depends too. A garbage free site like POF that is swarmed by everyone it will probably have lower rates since lower number of clean women on there.
2-5 percent before seeing the bed with a date, true. You must be strong and don´t give up, with 10 messages/day + good profile text, you´ll get results, but it can take some time is my experience. Those niche OLD sites, for example for higher educated people, absolutely higher rate. I had 2 dates there, in a short time. It seems a woman who using these sites, is more serious and most of the time also full member, she paid. And I hate OLD where it´s not visible if you are writing to a free member who can not reply to you or to a full member. I also never write to women with a huge wish list, like you must be......and not be......otherwise I don´t answer bleeeeh, she´s thinks she´s already a princess before she even got a date.
 
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