Different girl same story

[Breakthepoint]

Advice needed. I'm in my late 20s. In the past I was in this relationship with a hot woman with whom the sex life was not satisfyng. The problem was that she acted like her ***** was made of gold. We used to have sex very rarely, even though we were living under the same roof. This thing and some other things were the reason I left her.

Now I started dating another woman. But I noticed the beginning of the same scenario. Long story short, after 6th date she invited me to come over for a "cup of tea". We started making out, I rubbed her *****, but she resisted to take her panties off: 'I don't sleep with a guy unless we are in the relationship.' Tried different strategies to pass her resistance, but nothing happened.

I don't see a huge deal if we are not having sex after 2-5 dates. But it disappoints me when she decides to stop at the point when my d1ck is about to drill a hole through her wet panties.

All in all, the girl has many good traits that I like, but it seems that if I continue dating her I will end up in the same situation I was with the previous girlfriend.

So my question is what should I do to flip the script to my advantage? What mistakes I made that led me to this situation?

 

[Bible_Belt]

Jack off on her face.

 

[ohrein]

Anti slut defense. You didn't make any mistakes, she wants to date you. There's a bunch of PUA articles about it. The woman I'm dating made me wait like 10 dates!

 

[Trump]

I don't see a huge deal if we are not having sex after 2-5 dates.

5 dates, no sex, no problem.
6 dates, no sex, you have a meltdown?

What happened in between the 5th and 6th date? Did you watch movie where the female was a seductress and the sex was passionate?

All in all, the girl has many good traits that I like, but it seems that if I continue dating her I will end up in the same situation I was with the previous girlfriend.

So my question is what should I do to flip the script to my advantage? What mistakes I made that led me to this situation?

Don’t wait until the 6th date?

Come on bro, not brain surgery. You should have these girls should be wrapped around your finger.

 

[AttackFormation]

So my question is what should I do to flip the script to my advantage? What mistakes I made that led me to this situation?

No idea, because we don't know what you did before, on or in between your dates. But if you're being led to wait past the 2nd date to have sex with a woman in 2018, then to me something is off and she doesn't really want you. Either she didn't really want you from the start or you did something that turned her off or made her categorize you as a beta, we don't know.

 

[GT40]

Your not saying the right things to get her panties off or her ***** wet.
You need more Alpha game and Leadership there. Read the DJ bible

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/amp/

-Augustus-

 

[Desdinova]

I usually don't make an effort to sleep with a woman until the 4th date (unless it's obvious she wants to fvck on the first date). I will get her all worked up on the dates before and make her wait for it. I'll send her home with a puddle in her panties and nothing more. When you do that, you'll be guaranteed to have her go all the way by the 4th date.

You need to have the mindset that SHE'S the one who desperately wants to fvck, and you need to embrace your self-control when it comes to sex. Because that's how I do it, I honestly don't remember the last time (if ever) that I had last minute resistance.

 

[Breakthepoint]

Anti slut defense. You didn't make any mistakes, she wants to date you. There's a bunch of PUA articles about it. The woman I'm dating made me wait like 10 dates!

Was is worth it to wait?

Come on bro, not brain surgery. You should have these girls should be wrapped around your finger.

I understand your point but it's just strange how such emotional creature as a woman turns her brain on at the most exciting part.

No idea, because we don't know what you did before, on or in between your dates. But if you're being led to wait past the 2nd date to have sex with a woman in 2018, then to me something is off and she doesn't really want you. Either she didn't really want you from the start or you did something that turned her off or made her categorize you as a beta, we don't know.

I believe that I did some things that made her put me in a provider category. Maybe not escalating enough.

I usually don't make an effort to sleep with a woman until the 4th date (unless it's obvious she wants to fvck on the first date). I will get her all worked up on the dates before and make her wait for it. I'll send her home with a puddle in her panties and nothing more. When you do that, you'll be guaranteed to have her go all the way by the 4th date.

You need to have the mindset that SHE'S the one who desperately wants to fvck, and you need to embrace your self-control when it comes to sex. Because that's how I do it, I honestly don't remember the last time (if ever) that I had last minute resistance.

Thanks man, sounds like a good strategy.

 

[ohrein]

Was is worth it to wait?

Easily the highest quality woman I've ever dated. Still dating her. But I wanted an LTR so that's why I wasn't too worried about it. If I was just looking for hookups I would have pushed harder and wouldn't have waited that long.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Was is worth it to wait?


I understand your point but it's just strange how such emotional creature as a woman turns her brain on at the most exciting part.


I believe that I did some things that made her put me in a provider category. Maybe not escalating enough.




Thanks man, sounds like a good strategy.

Are you spinning plates?

-Augustus-

 

[CMNILS87]

Oh idk if it’s the right guy she’ll be down for sex 1st or 2nd date. Women have so many choices these days and so many have fwb’s on The side while looking for boyfriends. You gotta be aggressive and go for it right away. If she doesn’t have major red flags and is attracted by kino, just go for it

 

[The Duke]

Long story short, after 6th date she invited me to come over for a "cup of tea". We started making out, I rubbed her *****, but she resisted to take her panties off: 'I don't sleep with a guy unless we are in the relationship.' Tried different strategies to pass her resistance, but nothing happened.

I don't see a huge deal if we are not having sex after 2-5 dates. But it disappoints me when she decides to stop at the point when my d1ck is about to drill a hole through her wet panties.

So my question is what should I do to flip the script to my advantage? What mistakes I made that led me to this situation?

With out more information I'm going to approach this from 2 ways:

1. You didn't escalate properly. You let the time tick by on the first 5 dates without doing much. You always need to be escalating sexually. Its very important to start creating sexual tension early and continue amplifying. If you do this properly she won't be able to think up some silly reason to shut you down. It's exactly what @Desdinova pointed out.....did you send her home with wet panties on the 3rd, 4th, 5th dates? Something tells me probably not.

Every girl out there has slept with multiples guys without being in a relationship. Don't buy that story. What she really means is you haven't flipped all of the proper switches to gain access to the magic \ ! / vag!

2. The second possibility is you have escalated properly. If so, then this is a girl that uses sex to control. If that's the case then you should eject immediately.

Every girl I've ever been with I've had sex with by the 3rd date except for one. The reason it took so long with her was because I didn't create enough sexual tension on those previous dates. They were day time dates around large groups of people which made it extremely difficult for any intimate, 1on1 time. At the end of the 4th date I pushed the boundaries and she told me to stop much like your girl did. When she did I simply stopped, smiled and said "Well sweetie, I'm definitely interested but I'm not going to wait much longer." I kissed her on the forehead, put my pants on and left. And guess what.....we had sex on the 5th date. She even wore some extremely sexy lingerie under her clothes for that 5th date.

Always be respectful, but don't be shy about your intentions. Convey sexual intent in a playful manner. Women love to be the object of your desire.

 

[machoMax]

Advice needed. I'm in my late 20s. In the past I was in this relationship with a hot woman with whom the sex life was not satisfyng. The problem was that she acted like her ***** was made of gold. We used to have sex very rarely, even though we were living under the same roof. This thing and some other things were the reason I left her.

Now I started dating another woman. But I noticed the beginning of the same scenario. Long story short, after 6th date she invited me to come over for a "cup of tea". We started making out, I rubbed her *****, but she resisted to take her panties off: 'I don't sleep with a guy unless we are in the relationship.' Tried different strategies to pass her resistance, but nothing happened.

I don't see a huge deal if we are not having sex after 2-5 dates. But it disappoints me when she decides to stop at the point when my d1ck is about to drill a hole through her wet panties.

All in all, the girl has many good traits that I like, but it seems that if I continue dating her I will end up in the same situation I was with the previous girlfriend.

So my question is what should I do to flip the script to my advantage? What mistakes I made that led me to this situation?

First step, read this detailed guide about women psychology, second step: change type of women you are looking for. Every woman have same "value", that is a p***y, but some women are willing to share that value, on the other side some other women will use that "value" to play games with a man.

It is OK when girl is 16-17-18-19 y/o and play games you described here, because in that ages her value is high, but on the other side, when women 25+ y/o behaves on that way, it is a great signal to give up and find another, because such behaviour in those ages simply is not normal and probably she is not normal, and trust me you don't need her at all.

 

[AttackFormation]

Oh idk if it’s the right guy she’ll be down for sex 1st or 2nd date. Women have so many choices these days and so many have fwb’s on The side while looking for boyfriends. You gotta be aggressive and go for it right away. If she doesn’t have major red flags and is attracted by kino, just go for it

Amen brother.

There may or may not have been a time when "waiting" to have sex was convention and meant that you were in the game with a girl, but it's not the 21th century. In the 21th century, if she's not a virgin and doesn't have sex with you or svck your c0ck on the 1st or 2nd date, then she has rejected you for some reason or another. I'm also fond of saying that women always have other men in their lives, whether they're single or not, whether the man is physically present in their life or not. It could be Jack from last week. It could be Tony who she's lining up for this weekend. It could be Matt the mack/pro athlete/small time celebrity/etc who she thinks about intermittently or all the time and can call her whenever for on-and-off sex. It could be like you said her fwbs/plates who she gets her alpha fvcks from while searching for beta cucks.

 

[Masculinity]

Advice needed. I'm in my late 20s. In the past I was in this relationship with a hot woman with whom the sex life was not satisfyng. The problem was that she acted like her ***** was made of gold. We used to have sex very rarely, even though we were living under the same roof. This thing and some other things were the reason I left her.

Now I started dating another woman. But I noticed the beginning of the same scenario. Long story short, after 6th date she invited me to come over for a "cup of tea". We started making out, I rubbed her *****, but she resisted to take her panties off: 'I don't sleep with a guy unless we are in the relationship.' Tried different strategies to pass her resistance, but nothing happened.

I don't see a huge deal if we are not having sex after 2-5 dates. But it disappoints me when she decides to stop at the point when my d1ck is about to drill a hole through her wet panties.

All in all, the girl has many good traits that I like, but it seems that if I continue dating her I will end up in the same situation I was with the previous girlfriend.

So my question is what should I do to flip the script to my advantage? What mistakes I made that led me to this situation?

Easy solution. If she wants to trap you in a relationship before having sex, move on to find another girl.

 

[Breakthepoint]

Easily the highest quality woman I've ever dated. Still dating her. But I wanted an LTR so that's why I wasn't too worried about it. If I was just looking for hookups I would have pushed harder and wouldn't have waited that long.

I am intrested in the correlation (if there is any) between the number of dates she makes a guy wait till sex and the sexual life you get by living in a LTR with her. As in previous relationship I experienced the more you wait - the worse you get type of correlation.

Are you spinning plates?

-Augustus-

Not yet, but I am in the process of that.

Now, this isn't a problem, per say. If you would rather seek out the more respectable type of women, that is perfectly fine. But if you want something different, you have to do something different. You can't go out there acting like the nice, LTR guy screening for the highest standards, for example, if what you want is the type of girl who is going to hop on top of you after a date or two.

Thanks man. But it bothers me that a girl of 'the more respectable type of women" for me who makes me wait for the xth date can become a "hop on top" 1st or 2nd date chick for someone with the right mindset and skills.

im willing to bet thats also what you lack. not enough sexual vibes, not enough boldness, not enough abundance. work on that and some interesting things will start happening

Damn, it is true, I wasn't in that mentality with her from the beginning

At the end of the 4th date I pushed the boundaries and she told me to stop much like your girl did. When she did I simply stopped, smiled and said "Well sweetie, I'm definitely interested but I'm not going to wait much longer." I kissed her on the forehead, put my pants on and left. And guess what.....we had sex on the 5th date.

I wish I had said that at the time she resisted instead of trying 101 ways to get into her panties.

 

[AttackFormation]

I am intrested in the correlation (if there is any) between the number of dates she makes a guy wait till sex and the sexual life you get by living in a LTR with her. As in previous relationship I experienced the more you wait - the worse you get type of correlation.

Arousal is moderated by but doesn't come from the rational part of the brain. If she gives a rationalization for waiting longer with you that means at a base level she is less aroused by you than Kyle, who she made an "exception" for the first or second time they met since he was just irresistible and you only live once. Kyle made her aroused enough to override the rational moderation. A woman's ability to make you wait is inversely related to how aroused she is by you.

 

[ohrein]

I am intrested in the correlation (if there is any) between the number of dates she makes a guy wait till sex and the sexual life you get by living in a LTR with her. As in previous relationship I experienced the more you wait - the worse you get type of correlation.

As in the quality of sex or regularity? She's got a low lay count so she's a little inexperienced in the bedroom but that's nothing practice and direction can't fix. As for regularity, still going strong. Long story short, I'm getting what I want sexually. In my experience, the sooner a woman puts out, the more likely she is to be comfortable with sex and so the sex will be "better". My ONS's that turned into FWB were always the best in bed. But most women can be lead in sex, pushed into new things etc. The other thing is, I probably could have pushed her on the 4th date as she was on top of me as if she were about to initiate sex but she put up the ASD.

But yeah interesting question, not sure if my experience is accurate or not.

Arousal is moderated by but doesn't come from the rational part of the brain. If she gives a rationalization for waiting longer with you that means at a base level she is less aroused by you than Kyle, who she made an "exception" for the first or second time they met since he was just irresistible and you only live once. A woman's ability to make you wait is inversely related to how aroused she is by you, OR if she's looking for beta bucks; how desperate you are and how much she can benefit off you.

This is true. I was not pushing for sex much early. Fourth date I was expecting it and did push for it, she was on top of me making out really intensely and it seemed like it was leading to sex but she stopped herself. I could have pushed her into it but I didn't feel it was necessary and I have weird ethical problems with using manipulation or whatever. I dunno.

 

[machoMax]

As in the quality of sex or regularity? She's got a low lay count so she's a little inexperienced in the bedroom but that's nothing practice and direction can't fix. As for regularity, still going strong. Long story short, I'm getting what I want sexually. In my experience, the sooner a woman puts out, the more likely she is to be comfortable with sex and so the sex will be "better". My ONS's that turned into FWB were always the best in bed. But most women can be lead in sex, pushed into new things etc. The other thing is, I probably could have pushed her on the 4th date as she was on top of me as if she were about to initiate sex but she put up the ASD.

But yeah interesting question, not sure if my experience is accurate or not.




This is true. I was not pushing for sex much early. Fourth date I was expecting it and did push for it, she was on top of me making out really intensely and it seemed like it was leading to sex but she stopped herself. I could have pushed her into it but I didn't feel it was necessary and I have weird ethical problems with using manipulation or whatever. I dunno.

Well, you should push, but slowly, if you see that she is not comfortable, then stop for some time, try to look uninterested for sex and then try again, but carefully.