Difference between being attractive and being average

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Big Nuts said:
I've been blessed with some looks, but still:

1. Be thin (no bellies, not necessarily 6 pack)
2. Groom your hair and nails so you look like u care.
3. Have some muscle (make sure shoulders are outside your waste, V-shape)
4. White teeth (crooked, missing...fix them, worth the investment)
5. Have some f*cking style for f*ck sakes (well fitted clothing)
6. Carry yourself with an aura of confidence (never look straight down when u walk)
7. Shower u dirty f*cker and brush your teeth.
8. Mild scent/deodorant.
9. Trim or eliminate all excessive body hair (back, balls, ears, nose, ass)

Following these you will FEEL good too...if you feel good, you wheel good...then ya reel good!!!!!!!

Caring about how you look is not BETA of faggy!
Quoted for truth. It's really not complicated.
 

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floydb25 are you someone that can easily "see through" people?
 

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Sam: Yea, very intuitive about people's character. One of the benefits of being highly sensitive. Problem was, I used to be extremely naive and trusting; saw the good in everyone (even though it wasn't there), and sympathized like no other. Befriended everyone, as well, and was quite the nice guy pushover. Of course, I didn't realize any of this at the time, or how many fake *******s were out there. It all felt normal.

So, I pretty much tagged along with everyone else, and helped them with their lives / became their best friends - only to not have **** returned. In fact, they used me as a scapegoat to look down upon, and sabotaged all my successes / kept me beneath them. Never helped me with ****, really. Being good to others doesn't mean it will be returned. Lotta *******s out there just waiting to take advantage of weak folk.

Definitely learned that, if you become friends with somebody - and it's usually the aggressive, selfish, predatory ones who approach - their friends will be just like them. Before you know it, you're surrounded by fake, dysfunctional, worthless *******s. Befriending them doesn't change who they are, either. Just like how they bully, use, play, and manipulate others - they will do the same to you. And all those insecurities and failures get dumped onto you - especially if you make them feel inferior and less successful or likeable.

So basically, hung out with a bunch of worthless, low-class losers who brought me down with 'em, and focused on all my flaws and insecurities, didn't stand up for myself, and ended up being a failure who hated life... just like them.

It's a lesson learned, but still does a lot of damage, and destroys your self-esteem, and eliminates your trust in others. Almost makes you NOT want to be somebody, because all the faggots and losers will just tear you down for it.

What's odd is that, only the guys were doing this. Chicks f'n loved me... the looks, personality, social ability, humor, intelligence, etc. They were always staring, smiling, approaching, complimenting, etc right in front of their faces - which those *******s always managed to turn around, to make me feel inferior to them. Definitely got bullied a lot by guys. At the same time, I was seeking their approval and wanting to fit in, which didn't help. I was definitely an outsider - even when I was hugely social and popular. Plus people judge and define no matter what... and I ended up believing their lies about me... which I didn't help by sharing all my weaknesses and vulnerabilities with the world, and having a negative, failure-ridden mindset towards everything. Being overly sensitive and passive / weak definitely didn't help. Took a lot of things those losers said to heart, and let it control me... and let them control me, too.

Definitely learned a ****-ton about life and people the hard way. Didn't realize just how many losers, *******s, failures, haters, and pretenders were out there... and how damaging they can be... and how quickly they latch onto lost, depressive souls with no self-esteem. That's about the only way they can attract anyone into their lives (who isn't like them).

I can spot these losers pretty easy now, but spent WAY too much time around them - without realizing all the damage it was doing, or how fake and toxic they all were. I WAS successful, out-going, attractive, etc, and they tore me down and treated me like ****... WTF... LOSERS.

Takes time to brush yourself off and get motivated again, after all that. Took it pretty hard, and still struggling with it.
 

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floydb25 said:
Nah... just got tired of it... the people I was attracting, and crowds I was getting involved in as a result. The same crowds and personality types many girls flock to. It really is a double-edged sword. To attract a lot of women, you have to look and act a certain way, and be perceived as a certain way. But with that comes a lot of BS. I mean, you're gonna be social, out-going, "cool", and have all these fake friends, critics, and haters everywhere. Plus most of the women are ****, but that's what they flock to.

I prefer being left alone, and not worry about anyone else. Plus it's too much maintenance to get all ready just to go outside, look approachabe / social, and having all these fake ****-offs come up to you. I have insane social skills, but don't like people, and keep it to myself.

Even bishes are very shallow and disrespectful in their demeanor towards you. All they care about is "hot" and "sex". But those are the ones who are going to notice you most once you get all pimped out... Whereas, they don't notice you AT ALL when you look like a caveman, avoid people, and dress like a homeless person.

Some chicks still look or start a brief conversation, but I either avoid them or keep it real short. It's certainly not as abundant as when I was in shape, etc, which is fine. They used to go nuts - it really does make a difference between "hot / sexy" and "cute / attractive". If you're good looking and out of shape - they still notice. Even back in the day, chicks would say I was cute. But it's a whole different world once you get into shape, take care of your appearance, and become a social beast. Whether that's a good thing depends on how you view it, and the kind of person you are. I was always a shy, reserved, overly sensitive loner, so it didn't mesh well. Plus it was all really fake and tiresome.

The chicks here are also no where near as aggressive or forward as they were up north. Much more reserved and passive, and passive-aggressive. Even if they dig you, they won't say it, or act on it. Most people here are like that, but friendly on the outside. Awesome! That's how I like it.

But who knows what the future might bring... This is all still new to me. Living on my own, not having (or wanting) any friends, not knowing many people, not being approached by anyone... used to be around packs of people everywhere; socialized with and befriended everyone; had girls approach constantly. But 90% of those people were fake, and some were even quite toxic. Definitely damages you, and makes you re-evaluate everything. But you do learn a LOT from it.

Anywho, that's my story so far. :cool:
Yeah Im realizing this too. All friends are in it for themselves, are jealous, wanting only what is good for them. Everyone is out there to PROTECT themselves, they have to look good, know many people, be popular, be rich, and at the the same, if looking good forces them to slightly care about you, they will bite the bullet and accept it. And if they can screw you, they won't think twice about it.

But you can't let the bastards bring you down, can only be careful what you say. Don't talk about your feelings or emotions, and don't spend any money on anyone unless you have to. They will have no problem using it against you in the future.

It nasty out there.
 

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crossedup said:
Hahaha confident loner, yup that describes me too. Used to be painfully shy, ugly because I was extremely skinny and had horrible acne. But I worked on myself and now have no problem attracting the people I want in my life, can't really remember my last awkward conversation. Looking better causes you to feel better and people are certainly more receptive to you.

I used to be invisible to people in general, was needy, conceited, desperate. I changed all of that and left the fake "friends" that used me. I have no ill thoughts towards them, they were only looking after themselves and I was a huge ***** anyways so it makes sense why they treated me the way they did. Never had any relationships, I was on no girls radar.

Anyways, now it's easy to attract the right people. Cute girls flirt with me and touch me. Having good looks is also very important in the business world. People treat you better, plain and simple. Some people just flat out look like leaders without saying a word. The older women at the office hit on me which I ignore and it only makes them do it more. They do everything I tell them to do its easy and they don't give me some of the sh*t they give other less attractive men.

You be the best man you can. Develop your looks and develop your mind. Your mind is what drives you to create a better physical appearance. F*ck alcohol, that stuff in long run, destroys your mind and your physical appearance. Learn how to game sober, will learn much faster and become much stronger.
WORD... and what Trump said above... Seems like a lot of us have similar experiences. F'n society, man. Being a weak, passive, desperate ***** seems to be a common theme here. Still, doesn't make it right, but I guess life isn't fair, and a lot of people are selfish pricks.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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floydb25 said:
Sam: Yea, very intuitive about people's character. One of the benefits of being highly sensitive. Problem was, I used to be extremely naive and trusting; saw the good in everyone (even though it wasn't there), and sympathized like no other. Befriended everyone, as well, and was quite the nice guy pushover. Of course, I didn't realize any of this at the time, or how many fake *******s were out there. It all felt normal.

So, I pretty much tagged along with everyone else, and helped them with their lives / became their best friends - only to not have **** returned. In fact, they used me as a scapegoat to look down upon, and sabotaged all my successes / kept me beneath them. Never helped me with ****, really. Being good to others doesn't mean it will be returned. Lotta *******s out there just waiting to take advantage of weak folk.

Definitely learned that, if you become friends with somebody - and it's usually the aggressive, selfish, predatory ones who approach - their friends will be just like them. Before you know it, you're surrounded by fake, dysfunctional, worthless *******s. Befriending them doesn't change who they are, either. Just like how they bully, use, play, and manipulate others - they will do the same to you. And all those insecurities and failures get dumped onto you - especially if you make them feel inferior and less successful or likeable.

So basically, hung out with a bunch of worthless, low-class losers who brought me down with 'em, and focused on all my flaws and insecurities, didn't stand up for myself, and ended up being a failure who hated life... just like them.

It's a lesson learned, but still does a lot of damage, and destroys your self-esteem, and eliminates your trust in others. Almost makes you NOT want to be somebody, because all the faggots and losers will just tear you down for it.

What's odd is that, only the guys were doing this. Chicks f'n loved me... the looks, personality, social ability, humor, intelligence, etc. They were always staring, smiling, approaching, complimenting, etc right in front of their faces - which those *******s always managed to turn around, to make me feel inferior to them. Definitely got bullied a lot by guys. At the same time, I was seeking their approval and wanting to fit in, which didn't help. I was definitely an outsider - even when I was hugely social and popular. Plus people judge and define no matter what... and I ended up believing their lies about me... which I didn't help by sharing all my weaknesses and vulnerabilities with the world, and having a negative, failure-ridden mindset towards everything. Being overly sensitive and passive / weak definitely didn't help. Took a lot of things those losers said to heart, and let it control me... and let them control me, too.

Definitely learned a ****-ton about life and people the hard way. Didn't realize just how many losers, *******s, failures, haters, and pretenders were out there... and how damaging they can be... and how quickly they latch onto lost, depressive souls with no self-esteem. That's about the only way they can attract anyone into their lives (who isn't like them).

I can spot these losers pretty easy now, but spent WAY too much time around them - without realizing all the damage it was doing, or how fake and toxic they all were. I WAS successful, out-going, attractive, etc, and they tore me down and treated me like ****... WTF... LOSERS.

Takes time to brush yourself off and get motivated again, after all that. Took it pretty hard, and still struggling with it.
In short, now Pink Floyd Twenty Five is a loser who is stuck in the past. :D:D:D
 

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frontseatjuan said:
In short, now Pink Floyd Twenty Five is a loser who is stuck in the past. :D:D:D
Yea, man... pretty much. Ha Ha. Definitely made a ton of mistakes, though. The biggest one by FAR was being an open book and inviting everyone into my life; sharing EVERYTHING with them; seeking their advice and guidance all along the way; being a tag-along doormat *****; depending on them to have my best interests at heart; letting them push me around and judge / define me... Just doesn't work. The kind of people you attract as a result of this are the controlling, dysfunctional, fake *******s who want to have their hand in everything, are all about the gossip and drama, and make sure everyone remains beneath them. They just LOVE to know everything that's going wrong in your life, and will be the first in line to turn your positives into negatives. They pretty much pursuade you into being a loser or failure, and bring you right down with them. It happens so fast, and they always keep you on the defensive, and almost try to convince you that you're a nobody. Just attack attack attack.

This can't be... you gotta live your own life, set boundaries, be selective, stand up for yourself, not tell people **** (even to brag about your accomplishments - which they will just down-size, disbelieve, and compete against), tell them to **** off when necessary... Too many fake, selfish *******s out there to be trusting everyone. Most people DON'T have your best interests at heart; AREN'T interested in seeing you succeed or rise above them; WILL sabotage and bring you down for doing so; and WILL use your weaknesses and vulnerabilities against you (even to feel superior and cool in front of others, or to elevate themselves and feel better about their own insecurities and failures). Most people honestly prefer you to fail and be a nobody, and if you let them control and define you - that's what you will be. And they will make sure it remains that way. Can't be the scapegoat pushover loser nice guy "whiner" in this world.

The red pill is definitely hard to swallow. But a lot of these changes have taken place already, so there has been a lot of development.
 

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escaleraroyal said:
I'm attractive and I'm sick and tired of chicks attention!
Ha Ha! For real... There's a lot of UNWANTED attention you receive, as well... mostly from loser faggot men.
 

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i quit hanging out with all those fake people and stopped going to bars and parties, all i have done for the past decade is lift weights and train in jiu jitsu/judo, and i feel im way better off than most people i see, i have no social life but im fine with that
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You just need to be the best version of yourself. Barring cosmetic surgery, you have what you got and women are attracted to men who make the most of what they have because the man still remains congruent. Taking care of yourself demonstrates value, and in turn shows through actions that chances are you're going to handle your business in a similar fashion.
 

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foreverAFC said:
i quit hanging out with all those fake people and stopped going to bars and parties, all i have done for the past decade is lift weights and train in jiu jitsu/judo, and i feel im way better off than most people i see, i have no social life but im fine with that
Yeah...said a Forever AFC.
 
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