Heh,..I'm 38 and my father is 68 with Alzheimer's - I'm still waiting to have that 'talk'.
Seriously, my Dad was a terminal AFC who still, in his old age, subscribes body & soul to the Savior Mentality which he's clung to his whole life. I have to give him credit though; he was soley responsible for showing me exactly what not to do to be a Positvely Masculine Man. Once I had been psychologically trampled by women enough times to realize it was this AFC mentality that I had learned by default from him, he (and men like him) became my models for what NOT to do. It was because of him and almost all of my AFC friends who'd been hammered flat by women their whole, destroyed, lives, that I started to see the patterns in the Matrix and began picking it apart.